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Stuart Armstrong; 'Fishel: Signs for Southampton on a 4 year deal.
Topic Started: 18 Oct 2015, 09:50 PM (730,988 Views)
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FWIW McGinn and Armstrong aren't worth comparing. They just don't do the same job.

McGinn, if he were to sign, would be to take the weight off Brown and on occasion allow us to play two from deep.
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Bawman
10 Jun 2018, 04:05 PM
FWIW McGinn and Armstrong aren't worth comparing. They just don't do the same job.

McGinn, if he were to sign, would be to take the weight off Brown and on occasion allow us to play two from deep.
Don’t you think we already have a better option in Kouassi for that role?
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10 Jun 2018, 01:22 PM
Stuart Armstrong has played hardball with one-year contract extensions at Dundee United in December 2013 and Celtic in July 2017. These contracts are unusual at Celtic and the power remained with Armstrong and his agent over the season. He was never going to be at Celtic long-term, Brendan is resigned to him moving on, so lets accumulate enough for a replacement and some more left over. Its how we operate.

Plus, he's been average for about 50% of the time he's been here, good for the other 30% and great for 20% of the time. He's a great player on his day but the problem is those days are not every week.

McGinn would be a fine replacement.
Yes

Hibs second best player is a perfect fit
For what was Dundee United’s best player who’s been average over the last year at Celtic? Aye.
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10 Jun 2018, 04:07 PM
Bawman
10 Jun 2018, 04:05 PM
FWIW McGinn and Armstrong aren't worth comparing. They just don't do the same job.

McGinn, if he were to sign, would be to take the weight off Brown and on occasion allow us to play two from deep.
Don’t you think we already have a better option in Kouassi for that role?
It's not up to me however there's clearly something that BR thinks isn't there or there enough that he can trust him.
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10 Jun 2018, 04:07 PM
Bawman
10 Jun 2018, 04:05 PM
FWIW McGinn and Armstrong aren't worth comparing. They just don't do the same job.

McGinn, if he were to sign, would be to take the weight off Brown and on occasion allow us to play two from deep.
Don’t you think we already have a better option in Kouassi for that role?
I think McGinn has had more good games against Celtic than Kouassi has had for us unfortunately. He's needing a year on loan somewhere if he's going to have any future here. Between the two I'd take McGinn every time.
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10 Jun 2018, 04:13 PM
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10 Jun 2018, 04:07 PM
Bawman
10 Jun 2018, 04:05 PM
FWIW McGinn and Armstrong aren't worth comparing. They just don't do the same job.

McGinn, if he were to sign, would be to take the weight off Brown and on occasion allow us to play two from deep.
Don’t you think we already have a better option in Kouassi for that role?
I think McGinn has had more good games against Celtic than Kouassi has had for us unfortunately. He's needing a year on loan somewhere if he's going to have any future here. Between the two I'd take McGinn every time.
Me too. The jury is still out on Kouassi and I think that next season will be a defining one for him as far as his Celtic career is concerned. Difficult to know how often he was injury free last year and simply not picked.

Think McGinn would be a good buy, with the potential to succeed Broony if he develops under Brendan.
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Don’t get the fuss, Armstrong has been decent at times but he isn’t a Celtic fan and has given us 4 years and been a useful part of back to back trebles.

I would prefer to see McGregor and a new face get more game time.

Armstrong has been good value for money, and even though he seems interested in a move south, he has kept his mouth shut and hasn’t caused any real fuss.

Good luck to him, I hope he does well and it looks good for Celtic.
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10 Jun 2018, 04:43 PM
Don’t get the fuss, Armstrong has been decent at times but he isn’t a Celtic fan and has given us 4 years and been a useful part of back to back trebles.

I would prefer to see McGregor and a new face get more game time.

Armstrong has been good value for money, and even though he seems interested in a move south, he has kept his mouth shut and hasn’t caused any real fuss.

Good luck to him, I hope he does well and it looks good for Celtic.
you want mcgregor to get more game time?

he played 55 games last season
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10 Jun 2018, 03:56 PM
Aye but is Boyata better than Forrest?
Don't tease me like that. I'm better than forrest
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10 Jun 2018, 05:19 PM
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10 Jun 2018, 03:56 PM
Aye but is Boyata better than Forrest?
Don't tease me like that. I'm better than forrest
Do you have brown eyes?
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If we were looking at losing Armstrong off the back of 2016/17’s form rather than what we’ve seen of him this season I’d be more concerned but with McGregor’s form, Rogic being untouchable and Ntcham growing into our midfield the way he has, Armstrong is surplus to requirements as things stand. Maybe surplus to requirements is a bit harsh but definitely not a first team starter the way things stand.
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10 Jun 2018, 09:34 AM

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That's not my point, he was able to start those games. Armstrong hasn't managed it at United nor Celtic. N'tcham in his first full season looked a more reliable option.

I'd like to keep Armstrong but he's not been as reliable as others in that area of the field. The midfield is the rhythm of the side and the whole team benefits from consistency in that area, reliability.
Stuart Armstrong's stats at United will be comparable or better than those of McGinn at Hibs and St Mirren. It is worth noting Armstrong's appearances were in the top division. Also worth noting are Armstrong's performances in Brendan's first season in charge. You want to compare him to NtCham - fine. I love NtCham and think he has so much potential but I doubt the word most in our support would use to describe him is reliable. I watched him dominate in games v Sevco but get hooked at half time v Hearts and Hibs. God, I watched him have a dreadful first 20-30 minutes away at Anderlecht before playing one of the most beautiful passes of the season to help set up our first goal. Different players have different attributes and bring different things to the team. Armstrong is a strong runner. He can carry the ball distances and also arrive in the box. Nobody else in our squad is as good at it as him. IfArmstrong goes it won't be a massive loss but we will be losing the only player in our squad who offers what he offers. McGinn is nowhere near being as good at it as him. McGinn also isn't as good as NtCham at passing or Brown as an all round midfielder. Replacing Armstrong with McGinn is a bad move.

Exactly it, his ability to carry the ball and get into the box provides a completely different dimension to the team. Even this season think we seen a better Sinclair with Armstrong beside him. That being said, think he will go - just hope we bring in someone that can perform a similar role.
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10 Jun 2018, 09:49 AM
Armstrong of last season will be missed Armstrong howrver.of the.other 2/3 season he has been with us won't be
Think you've got your seasons mixed up mate.
Indeed I did
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It wasn't that long ago Andy Robertson was considered not good enough for us and look where he is now. The reality is we won't know what McGinn is like for Celtic until he plays for us. Can he step up when surrounded by better players? That's the question for all signings, not just him. There have been players who have come with big reputations and on good money and didn't live up to it. A gamble like all of them but I wouldn't mind taking it. Don't think Hibs valuation is realistic by any means though.
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10 Jun 2018, 01:22 PM
Stuart Armstrong has played hardball with one-year contract extensions at Dundee United in December 2013 and Celtic in July 2017. These contracts are unusual at Celtic and the power remained with Armstrong and his agent over the season. He was never going to be at Celtic long-term, Brendan is resigned to him moving on, so lets accumulate enough for a replacement and some more left over. Its how we operate.

Plus, he's been average for about 50% of the time he's been here, good for the other 30% and great for 20% of the time. He's a great player on his day but the problem is those days are not every week.

McGinn would be a fine replacement.
Yes

Hibs second best player is a perfect fit
For what was Dundee United’s best player who’s been average over the last year at Celtic? Aye.
He was way above average the season because and he did have an injury that affected a lot of last season as well

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10 Jun 2018, 06:32 PM
It wasn't that long ago Andy Robertson was considered not good enough for us and look where he is now. The reality is we won't know what McGinn is like for Celtic until he plays for us. Can he step up when surrounded by better players? That's the question for all signings, not just him. There have been players who have come with big reputations and on good money and didn't live up to it. A gamble like all of them but I wouldn't mind taking it. Don't think Hibs valuation is realistic by any means though.
Andy Robertson wouldn’t get in our team.
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McGinn is NOT Celtic class.
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10 Jun 2018, 04:08 PM
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10 Jun 2018, 04:07 PM
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10 Jun 2018, 04:05 PM
FWIW McGinn and Armstrong aren't worth comparing. They just don't do the same job.

McGinn, if he were to sign, would be to take the weight off Brown and on occasion allow us to play two from deep.
Don’t you think we already have a better option in Kouassi for that role?
It's not up to me however there's clearly something that BR thinks isn't there or there enough that he can trust him.
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No doubt the people writing off McGinn are the same folk who were writing off McGregor saying he "will end up having a half decent career at a SPL club".

Will be a great signing.
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