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Stuart Armstrong; 'Fishel: Signs for Southampton on a 4 year deal.
Topic Started: 18 Oct 2015, 09:50 PM (730,998 Views)
bhoyfromdacountyhell
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Dubz
23 May 2018, 01:41 PM
I’d prefer him to stay but if he leaves then the blow is softened with Rogic signing a new deal and the form of McGregor and Ntcham.

Your call Stuarty boy, Huddersfield or Paradise.
Softened? We did fine without him, we will be fine without him - rogic and ntcham are significantly more important and mcgregor is probably the better of him an Armstrong. Not too bothered if he stays or goes, although his song is fine
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I'm not sure we have anyone who can offer what he did in the second half of last season (16/17). I accept that the big question is whether he can reach that level again - presumably the Manager will have drawn his own conclusions about that.
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He's a good player, but not as good as he thinks he is. And he clearly doesnt see himself at Celtic long-term. Thats fine. He plays hardball with these short contracts and 1yr extensions: time someone played hardball with him. Get him on the transfer list and reinvest in the defence.

Enjoy Cardiff or similar, mr OU law degree. Celtic goes on.
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Sergeant Pluck
23 May 2018, 03:30 PM
I'm not sure we have anyone who can offer what he did in the second half of last season (16/17). I accept that the big question is whether he can reach that level again - presumably the Manager will have drawn his own conclusions about that.
One 6 month spell in 3 and a half years

Yet folk still go on about him like hes Petrov.
Edited by Hail!Hail!, 23 May 2018, 03:40 PM.
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bhoyfromdacountyhell
23 May 2018, 03:13 PM
Dubz
23 May 2018, 01:41 PM
I’d prefer him to stay but if he leaves then the blow is softened with Rogic signing a new deal and the form of McGregor and Ntcham.

Your call Stuarty boy, Huddersfield or Paradise.
Softened? We did fine without him, we will be fine without him - rogic and ntcham are significantly more important and mcgregor is probably the better of him an Armstrong. Not too bothered if he stays or goes, although his song is fine
Yes softened.

This time last year we were all in a panic at losing Armstrong and Roberts. Armstrong on form is far better than anything we have seen from McGregor. I wouldn’t like to lose any of them but with the form of others then t softens the blow of losing key players.

We’ve done fine without VVD. No one is irreplaceable.
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23 May 2018, 03:38 PM
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23 May 2018, 03:30 PM
I'm not sure we have anyone who can offer what he did in the second half of last season (16/17). I accept that the big question is whether he can reach that level again - presumably the Manager will have drawn his own conclusions about that.
One 6 month spell in 3 and a half years

Yet folk still go on about him like hes Petrov.
Think that's a bit harsh - IIRC he had a pretty decent first season too.

Edit to say that I agree with Dubz above - he's certainly not irreplaceable & if he's not fully committed then we should get rid.
Edited by Sergeant Pluck, 23 May 2018, 04:07 PM.
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If he was sold I would not worry too much about finding a replacement. Ntcham, McGregor, Brown with Kouassi and Bitton as cover is good enough for me. Would be much more concerned with finding a new centre half and winger.

Edit to also mention Rogic :lol:
Edited by Aidenho, 23 May 2018, 04:17 PM.
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23 May 2018, 04:13 PM
If he was sold I would not worry too much about finding a replacement. Ntcham, McGregor, Brown with Kouassi and Bitton as cover is good enough for me. Would be much more concerned with finding a new centre half and winger.

Edit to also mention Rogic :lol:
Although those players have other qualities, none of them have as much energy as Armstrong and that would be my main concern if he were to go. We require a player like Armstrong to break the lines against teams that sit in. If he goes a similar player should be signed.
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Sergeant Pluck
23 May 2018, 04:05 PM
Hail!Hail!
23 May 2018, 03:38 PM
Sergeant Pluck
23 May 2018, 03:30 PM
I'm not sure we have anyone who can offer what he did in the second half of last season (16/17). I accept that the big question is whether he can reach that level again - presumably the Manager will have drawn his own conclusions about that.
One 6 month spell in 3 and a half years

Yet folk still go on about him like hes Petrov.
Think that's a bit harsh - IIRC he had a pretty decent first season too.

Edit to say that I agree with Dubz above - he's certainly not irreplaceable & if he's not fully committed then we should get rid.
He had a good January-February after he first arrived and then done eff all till Rodgers got him playing well in the last 6 months of last season.

I was hopeful as much as the next guy this was gonna be the start of something but instead he starts his mince during the summer over a contract extension and follows it up by turning in another garbage season.
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I think he needs to be in a team that is setup just right for him. I’m not convinced he’s going to find many teams that offer that in the lower end of the EPL.
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23 May 2018, 03:31 PM
He's a good player, but not as good as he thinks he is. And he clearly doesnt see himself at Celtic long-term. Thats fine. He plays hardball with these short contracts and 1yr extensions: time someone played hardball with him. Get him on the transfer list and reinvest in the defence.

Enjoy Cardiff or similar, mr OU law degree. Celtic goes on.
“Mr OU Law Degree” :lol:

Yeah, Stuart, take your Highers and GTF! You have no place in our working class, salt of the earth midfield!
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Lets be honest, hes had one really good game this season, when we played Ross County at home. Hes not started many games this season through injury and loss of form. If he wants to leave, we shoud sell him at the earliest opportunity.

I like Armstrong, but I think it's time to move him on.
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Dubz
23 May 2018, 03:58 PM
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23 May 2018, 03:13 PM
Dubz
23 May 2018, 01:41 PM
I’d prefer him to stay but if he leaves then the blow is softened with Rogic signing a new deal and the form of McGregor and Ntcham.

Your call Stuarty boy, Huddersfield or Paradise.
Softened? We did fine without him, we will be fine without him - rogic and ntcham are significantly more important and mcgregor is probably the better of him an Armstrong. Not too bothered if he stays or goes, although his song is fine
Yes softened.

This time last year we were all in a panic at losing Armstrong and Roberts. Armstrong on form is far better than anything we have seen from McGregor. I wouldn’t like to lose any of them but with the form of others then t softens the blow of losing key players.

We’ve done fine without VVD. No one is irreplaceable.
I would disagree that an on form Armstrong is better than anything we have seen from MacGregor. But we are entitled to our opinion.

What Armstrong did offer when he was on form was a central midielder who had a bit of pace and could drive into the box and get beyond the striker. Casued no end of problems against SPL teams that were tough to break down last season. Not convinced he has done it consistently enough and certainly hasn't scored in many big games like CalMac ;)
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23 May 2018, 02:45 PM
I thought he did pretty well in his substitute appearances in the last two games.

He's supposedly a intelligent guy so hopefully his time out this season has given him the opportunity to realise what he'd be giving up by leaving here. An on form, fully focused Armstrong would be a great asset for us.
This is what frustrates me about him - he should be smart enough to know that playing these games doesn't help his football any. He should have just signed a multi-year deal, got his head down, and then got his move if he wanted one. Dicking around with one year deals is just a distraction.
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Decent player. Can be hot and cold at times. Would be disappointed if he started ahead of our preferred midfield. Has his sights set on the premiership down south. Let me at it.

For what it's worth I don't think he'd be overly successful in England.
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24 May 2018, 01:04 AM
Decent player. Can be hot and cold at times. Would be disappointed if he started ahead of our preferred midfield. Has his sights set on the premiership down south. Let me at it.

For what it's worth I don't think he'd be overly successful in England.
he's not a premiership player ,Notts Forrest would be more likely.
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24 May 2018, 01:10 AM
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24 May 2018, 01:04 AM
Decent player. Can be hot and cold at times. Would be disappointed if he started ahead of our preferred midfield. Has his sights set on the premiership down south. Let me at it.

For what it's worth I don't think he'd be overly successful in England.
he's not a premiership player ,Notts Forrest would be more likely.
Scott Arfield was a premiership player this season for the team that finished 7th.
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23 May 2018, 04:21 PM
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23 May 2018, 04:13 PM
If he was sold I would not worry too much about finding a replacement. Ntcham, McGregor, Brown with Kouassi and Bitton as cover is good enough for me. Would be much more concerned with finding a new centre half and winger.

Edit to also mention Rogic :lol:
Although those players have other qualities, none of them have as much energy as Armstrong and that would be my main concern if he were to go. We require a player like Armstrong to break the lines against teams that sit in. If he goes a similar player should be signed.
McGregor is versatile enough to make those runs and open up space if that’s what Rodgers wants him to do. After the season those midfielders had its difficult to say we need to go out and replace someone who was largely a substitute (through no fault of his own, granted) when there are far more immediate needs.

If he wants to go, let him go. Wouldn’t be too bothered by it, certainly wouldn’t neglect getting a defender and winger in the door.
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23 May 2018, 03:31 PM
He's a good player, but not as good as he thinks he is. And he clearly doesnt see himself at Celtic long-term. Thats fine. He plays hardball with these short contracts and 1yr extensions: time someone played hardball with him. Get him on the transfer list and reinvest in the defence.

Enjoy Cardiff or similar, mr OU law degree. Celtic goes on.
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