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| Stuart Armstrong; 'Fishel: Signs for Southampton on a 4 year deal. | |
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| Topic Started: 18 Oct 2015, 09:50 PM (731,004 Views) | |
| Quiet Assasin | 28 Mar 2018, 11:29 AM Post #5721 |
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..for the maintenance of dinner tables for the children and the unemployed
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Passing and keeping possession are his biggest weaknesses. He excels in Scotland thanks to his athleticism and energy. Once that's equalled or bettered he's largely lost. He's turned in some pitiful performances in Europe. Edited by Quiet Assasin, 28 Mar 2018, 11:30 AM.
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| Forza | 28 Mar 2018, 11:35 AM Post #5722 |
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Considering retirement
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None of that in any way invalidates the fact he'll be as good or bad in the English Premier League as a whole load of other extremely average footballers at bottom 10 clubs that have been bought for, and are paid, huge amounts of money. |
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| Quiet Assasin | 28 Mar 2018, 11:39 AM Post #5723 |
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..for the maintenance of dinner tables for the children and the unemployed
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Aye. He's no worse than some of the players down there, I agree. |
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| remy mcswain | 28 Mar 2018, 11:52 AM Post #5724 |
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That is true but Cairney is "proven" in England. Armstrong isn't. English scouts will judge Armstrong on his big games. His big audition was against England where he was pitiful. Armstrong also only has a year left on his contract. |
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| Torquemada | 28 Mar 2018, 11:53 AM Post #5725 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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I wanted us to sign Armstrong and I'm glad we did. But I was narked by the length of time it took him to decide to come. I figured immediately he saw us as a stepping stone and so it looks like proving. We should move him on now. We'll get a good price for him when you consider the prices paid for mediocrity in England. But he should certainly not have been allowed to sign only a two-year (effectively one-year) extension. We've given him more for less this season. |
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| Midfield Maestro | 28 Mar 2018, 11:58 AM Post #5726 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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I really like him but if he's not playing ball again we should move him on. He's not a guaranteed starter for us in any event and, for me, he's not as good a player over the course of a season as McGregor or Ntcham. |
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| Forza | 28 Mar 2018, 12:00 PM Post #5727 |
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Considering retirement
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Armstrong has played in more big games than Cairney has and probably ever will. He's played well in a good few of them too. I doubt we are in Johansen to Fulham territory for £2m, but I may be wrong. The market has taken a massive jump for a start. Any scout or senior exec would be off their head (many, many are) looking to pay up to £20m for Cairney, remaining contracted years or not, when they could potentially have Armstrong for about £7m. I think it is clear that this is where he wants to play, and it would clearly be better happening this summer. I very much doubt he'll go near a Championship club though. |
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| Goodbye Sevillian | 28 Mar 2018, 12:07 PM Post #5728 |
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Considering retirement
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Norwich are apparently asking £25m for midfielder James Maddison (BBC sport gossip). £25m for a guy who looked OK at Aberedeen and has done nothing of note since. Won eff all, playing in a hit and miss team. Armstrong is a far better player, played at a higher level and has international experience. He will not be sold for circa £2m. |
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| Forza | 28 Mar 2018, 12:11 PM Post #5729 |
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Considering retirement
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In fairness, Maddison is a talent and has really kicked on this season. But you are still right. Once again, I'm glad no one on here is anywhere near our negotiations for player sales. We'd be about £30m down in the last few years based on what they were apparently "not worth." It's absolutely tedious. |
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| Father John Misty | 28 Mar 2018, 12:26 PM Post #5730 |
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First-team starter
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Considering how good he was last season we had to give him what he wanted or lose one of our best players. Unfortunately he's been an empty jersey at times and we now have 2 very good young MF's who can play CM, although a different style to Armstrong, so we can add another CM to our summer shopping list. |
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| aldo | 28 Mar 2018, 12:36 PM Post #5731 |
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And that's the way we like it...
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I wanted him to stay, too, not least of all because it was clearly Brendan's wish that we should try to hold on to the player for as long as possible, and Brendan rightly has the last word. But also because he looked sensational he got his chance, and proved it was no flash in the pan when he reclaimed his place after injury. However, I had the impression this season that he looked like a man who regretted not pushing for a transfer. He was a shadow of the player of last season, no doubt: was that down to his hernia problem? Would he have had the problem as far back as July when since the season started? Have my doubts, I'd cut our losses but it's Brendan's call: if he still thinks he can persuade the player to commit long term to Celtic then every effort should be made to support that. |
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| remy mcswain | 28 Mar 2018, 12:52 PM Post #5732 |
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Big in Canada
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I doubt he will go to a Championship club either. He'd probably stay with us if that was his best offer. I don't see us getting £7m for him either though. |
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| Hairytoes | 28 Mar 2018, 01:53 PM Post #5733 |
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First-team captain
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Guess it'll be Brighton or Huddersfield or the such that he'd go to, a yo-yo type Premier/Championship club. Circa £6/7m McGinn at about £2m + Scott Allan would then be decent business IMO. We've got Ntcham, Eboue, Mcgregor, Broony, Christie & Rogic who all play in the middle. Shouldn't be an issue. |
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| IainG | 28 Mar 2018, 01:58 PM Post #5734 |
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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I see McGregor is back to being good again this month.
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| amccarten313 | 28 Mar 2018, 06:44 PM Post #5735 |
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Occasional Substitute
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maddison has done rly well for Norwich and eng u21s this year |
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| fatboab | 28 Mar 2018, 07:09 PM Post #5736 |
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Just before the Dawn
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Speak for yourself
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| IainG | 29 Mar 2018, 09:54 AM Post #5737 |
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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The McGregor thread is fascinating to read all through. The wild swings of opinion on him from game to game, never mind month to month, is hilarious. |
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| BuckhindBhoy | 29 Mar 2018, 09:56 AM Post #5738 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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Yep you are very correct there. Which is why I'm happy most of our support don't negotiate our transfer deals. You'd have Armstrong sold off for 2 million when the fact is he's worth a lot more when you look at the values of someone like Cairney. |
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| Bobby Peru | 29 Mar 2018, 09:57 AM Post #5739 |
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The Maestro
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It’s almost as if he’s inconsistent and has had some fantastic performances and patches of poor form. |
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| IainG | 29 Mar 2018, 10:02 AM Post #5740 |
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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I know that. I'm only pointing out how funny I find the thread with it's to'ing and fro'ing. As you imply any opinion of the guy could be justified at any point in time. |
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