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Stuart Armstrong; 'Fishel: Signs for Southampton on a 4 year deal.
Topic Started: 18 Oct 2015, 09:50 PM (731,063 Views)
jim62
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up on the roof!!

I have absolutely no knowledge of what he is currently paid or what has been offered

but lets take two figure mentioned on here ..£15k a week and £45k a week

assume a three year contract and do some very rough arithmetic..

£15k a week means you earn roughly £2.34 million over the three years...assume 40% tax deducted...actual total income about £1.4 million over those three years...I am happy to accept that even on those figures he will hardly be starving

however, £45 k a week means just over £7million earned....after tax that's £4.2 million in your account over three years

how many of you would turn down an extra £2.8million in your hand over three years

as his lawyer/agent, how can you possibly advise him to knock that back too?

Possibly one way of doing a deal for him at Celtic is you offer him a signing on fee equivalent to the difference and treat it as a "transfer fee"? ...can that be done?...would Celtic contemplate such a deal?
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jim62
14 Aug 2017, 01:55 PM
I have absolutely no knowledge of what he is currently paid or what has been offered

but lets take two figure mentioned on here ..£15k a week and £45k a week

assume a three year contract and do some very rough arithmetic..

£15k a week means you earn roughly £2.34 million over the three years...assume 40% tax deducted...actual total income about £1.4 million over those three years...I am happy to accept that even on those figures he will hardly be starving

however, £45 k a week means just over £7million earned....after tax that's £4.2 million in your account over three years

how many of you would turn down an extra £2.8million in your hand over three years

as his lawyer/agent, how can you possibly advise him to knock that back too?

Possibly one way of doing a deal for him at Celtic is you offer him a signing on fee equivalent to the difference and treat it as a "transfer fee"? ...can that be done?...would Celtic contemplate such a deal?
It's been done in the past for sure. It's paid in lump sum installments over the course of the contract.
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jim62
14 Aug 2017, 01:55 PM
I have absolutely no knowledge of what he is currently paid or what has been offered

but lets take two figure mentioned on here ..£15k a week and £45k a week

assume a three year contract and do some very rough arithmetic..

£15k a week means you earn roughly £2.34 million over the three years...assume 40% tax deducted...actual total income about £1.4 million over those three years...I am happy to accept that even on those figures he will hardly be starving

however, £45 k a week means just over £7million earned....after tax that's £4.2 million in your account over three years

how many of you would turn down an extra £2.8million in your hand over three years

as his lawyer/agent, how can you possibly advise him to knock that back too?

Possibly one way of doing a deal for him at Celtic is you offer him a signing on fee equivalent to the difference and treat it as a "transfer fee"? ...can that be done?...would Celtic contemplate such a deal?
You're not wrong but there's probably not one player in our first team squad who couldn't significantly enhance their salary by angling for a move down south. Let's not pull at that thread!
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On current form he's not worth £15k a week, if he wants to go rot at West Brom or whatever other relegation fodder for the rest of his career before returning north for stints at Aberdeen and Dundee Utd then be my guest. We've lost bigger and better than Stuart Armstrong.
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As above; can we dispel the myth once and for all that a player is only free to talk to other clubs when his contract ends? Armstrong could have signed a three year contract on Tuesday and on Wednesday agreed, in principal, to sign for West Brom when that contract expired. He just couldn't make it legally binding until he had six months left. The 'tapping up' rules of the EPL do not apply to Scotland.
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14 Aug 2017, 01:54 PM
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14 Aug 2017, 01:39 PM
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14 Aug 2017, 12:47 PM

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apparently a £10 million lump sum bonus at the end of his 2nd year with them as well if he goes.
Absolutely no way is that true :lol:





thought it was very dubious myself but only passing on the info
Edited by stevie_revit, 14 Aug 2017, 02:03 PM.
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jim62
14 Aug 2017, 01:55 PM
I have absolutely no knowledge of what he is currently paid or what has been offered

but lets take two figure mentioned on here ..£15k a week and £45k a week

assume a three year contract and do some very rough arithmetic..

£15k a week means you earn roughly £2.34 million over the three years...assume 40% tax deducted...actual total income about £1.4 million over those three years...I am happy to accept that even on those figures he will hardly be starving

however, £45 k a week means just over £7million earned....after tax that's £4.2 million in your account over three years

how many of you would turn down an extra £2.8million in your hand over three years

as his lawyer/agent, how can you possibly advise him to knock that back too?

Possibly one way of doing a deal for him at Celtic is you offer him a signing on fee equivalent to the difference and treat it as a "transfer fee"? ...can that be done?...would Celtic contemplate such a deal?
Agreed. If that is the difference between what we're offering him and what he could get elsewhere then its a no brainer. You're set up in a way that should mean a very very healthy lifestyle.
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agreed

i'm beginning to think that sorting armstrong out is not only secondary too but maybe in some way conditional on what happens with paddy

we get paddy we don't get stuart

we don't get paddy we keep stuart


we don't get paddy we get ings too
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I see similarities in this and Stefan Johansen's exit last year. I imagine he'll go without much fanfare after the Astana games.
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14 Aug 2017, 02:07 PM
I see similarities in this and Stefan Johansen's exit last year. I imagine he'll go without much fanfare after the Astana games.
Except Armstrong is three times the player.
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14 Aug 2017, 02:04 PM
jim62
14 Aug 2017, 01:55 PM
I have absolutely no knowledge of what he is currently paid or what has been offered

but lets take two figure mentioned on here ..£15k a week and £45k a week

assume a three year contract and do some very rough arithmetic..

£15k a week means you earn roughly £2.34 million over the three years...assume 40% tax deducted...actual total income about £1.4 million over those three years...I am happy to accept that even on those figures he will hardly be starving

however, £45 k a week means just over £7million earned....after tax that's £4.2 million in your account over three years

how many of you would turn down an extra £2.8million in your hand over three years

as his lawyer/agent, how can you possibly advise him to knock that back too?

Possibly one way of doing a deal for him at Celtic is you offer him a signing on fee equivalent to the difference and treat it as a "transfer fee"? ...can that be done?...would Celtic contemplate such a deal?
Agreed. If that is the difference between what we're offering him and what he could get elsewhere then its a no brainer. You're set up in a way that should mean a very very healthy lifestyle.
15k a week doesn't give you a healthy lifestyle? :rubeyes:

If he wants to go to West Brom and rot as a DM while battling relegation then good luck to him. I'm sure he can use the spare 20 quid notes he has lying around to wipe his tears away.
Edited by Sean Daleer, 14 Aug 2017, 02:16 PM.
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DowncraigBhoy
14 Aug 2017, 02:07 PM
I see similarities in this and Stefan Johansen's exit last year. I imagine he'll go without much fanfare after the Astana games.
The only similarity is that they both had one year remaining on their contracts. Johansen clearly wasn't in Rodgers' plans while Armstrong is. I wouldn't be surprised if the club started the summer with the mindset that Armstrong would only be sold after the qualifiers, if at all, but circumstances have changed. His dip in form coupled with an abundance of midfielders means he's not of the same value to us anymore. As others have said, sell to the highest bidder and put the cash towards a centre back or striker.
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Even if he really wants to stay and loves Celtic it's still a tough decision if he can get millions more by moving. It would be a tough choice for anyone. This scenario will happen more and more due to the endless pots of money down south . All we can do is offer as much as we can afford and also not upset the wage structure and hope that is enough if not then cest la vie let him go and move on.
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murphio
14 Aug 2017, 02:11 PM
DowncraigBhoy
14 Aug 2017, 02:07 PM
I see similarities in this and Stefan Johansen's exit last year. I imagine he'll go without much fanfare after the Astana games.
Except Armstrong is three times the player.
I'd have said the same about Johansen after his POTY season.
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Apparently his agent wants 100% of the Paddy Roberts profit.
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If Armstrong ends up at West Brom I'll feel sorry for him to be honest. Horrible, anti-football side. Hope he's practising his lumping, is all I'm saying.
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Are WBA looking at 3m too? Hopefully we can wring more out of them. He'll do OK down there, McCarthy, McArthur, Ki, Ledley etc have all done OK and he's as good as them if he gets the right team / manager.

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14 Aug 2017, 02:35 PM
Apparently his agent wants 100% of the Paddy Roberts profit.
:lol:
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You have to hand it to Armstrong. He is thinking of the fans feeling up until the last.

Can only assume the reason for him being so ordinary this season is so that we don't suffer too much heart ache when he leaves.
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Sean Daleer
14 Aug 2017, 02:15 PM
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14 Aug 2017, 02:04 PM
jim62
14 Aug 2017, 01:55 PM
I have absolutely no knowledge of what he is currently paid or what has been offered

but lets take two figure mentioned on here ..£15k a week and £45k a week

assume a three year contract and do some very rough arithmetic..

£15k a week means you earn roughly £2.34 million over the three years...assume 40% tax deducted...actual total income about £1.4 million over those three years...I am happy to accept that even on those figures he will hardly be starving

however, £45 k a week means just over £7million earned....after tax that's £4.2 million in your account over three years

how many of you would turn down an extra £2.8million in your hand over three years

as his lawyer/agent, how can you possibly advise him to knock that back too?

Possibly one way of doing a deal for him at Celtic is you offer him a signing on fee equivalent to the difference and treat it as a "transfer fee"? ...can that be done?...would Celtic contemplate such a deal?
Agreed. If that is the difference between what we're offering him and what he could get elsewhere then its a no brainer. You're set up in a way that should mean a very very healthy lifestyle.
15k a week doesn't give you a healthy lifestyle? :rubeyes:

If he wants to go to West Brom and rot as a DM while battling relegation then good luck to him. I'm sure he can use the spare 20 quid notes he has lying around to wipe his tears away.
I doubt he'll waste a second crying. Last season will be as good as gets for him at Celtic, he could stay with us and win more trophies but there's few pros who wouldn't go for dramatically improved wages....regardless of EPL team.
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