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| Stuart Armstrong; 'Fishel: Signs for Southampton on a 4 year deal. | |
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| Topic Started: 18 Oct 2015, 09:50 PM (731,067 Views) | |
| Hybrid Moments | 12 Aug 2017, 02:59 PM Post #4541 |
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In the Sign of the Octopus
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Anyone know what he's earning currently and what we're offering? |
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| Bawman | 12 Aug 2017, 03:02 PM Post #4542 |
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Class is permanent.
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Time to call this for what it is Celtic. |
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| wigwam | 12 Aug 2017, 03:37 PM Post #4543 |
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Older than dirt
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It might well have been us insisting he stayed at least for the qualifiers. Not knowing his form would be as it is. Too late now, I think selling the week of the Astana game might be distracting. Unless wee Paddy arrives and nobody even notices him going. For folk saying he was slack last night, he sold the late equaliser against England with a slack pass, it's nothing new in his game. Some on here would have you believe he's Xavi, he's had 6 good months in 3 years. No guarantee he can build on it. |
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| pauldg1 | 12 Aug 2017, 03:51 PM Post #4544 |
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A spray tanned Furby, eating KFC and screaming at a Gold Star family
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Rodgers pretty much did last night. |
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| Kingslim | 12 Aug 2017, 03:59 PM Post #4545 |
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69 and counting
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There was talk we had offered to double his wages but that would only bring his wage to around 15k per week. Southampton were alleged to be prepared to offer him around 45k per week. |
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| Quemelachupen | 12 Aug 2017, 04:22 PM Post #4546 |
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First team training
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Well, if true, it's a no-brainer! |
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| mick82 | 12 Aug 2017, 04:28 PM Post #4547 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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How? We've offered him a new deal and he's not accepted it. We could withdraw the offer (or it may have expired) but unless a club makes an offer to buy him, we'd be in the same situation. I think most people want Armstrong to (1) stay and (2) regain his form. There's nothing else the club can do to make that happen unless we improve the offer to a level he will accept (assuming that the issue is over money and the acceptable salary is within reason). As the club, we have to let this play out. Trying to force a sale at this point weakens our position as the buying club knows we are pushing for it and tries to push down the price. |
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| steviefrombelfast | 12 Aug 2017, 04:44 PM Post #4548 |
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Considering retirement
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I really shouldn't respond but I can't help it. Ok one I will give you is that there some footballers who aren't mercenaries. However they are very rare and get rarer every year. Where or when has Stuart Armstrong sticking two fingers up to anybody? One of my points is that he has not done anything remotely like that - quite the opposite he has not said or done anything at all to draw the criticism. As for regards him failing to recognise what has been done for him are you saying that he should be so grateful for Celtic playing him he should just sign a new contract regardless of what is in it? Really? And for your point that Celtic are acting in the interests of the player what facts do you have to even begin to back that up? I would certainly agree that he is a liability to the team at the minute but I see no lack of effort there. We seen under Ronny that when Armstrong isn't content his form collapses - I am sure if he could avoid that he would. Some players can play well regardless of off field matters - Armstrong doesnt seem able to. As for Petrov doing the right thing then if you think signing a new contract and then behaving like a spoilt brat six months later on flag day as part of his actions that summer to engineer a move is the right thing then good luck to you. To me that was sticking two fingers up to Celtic. I still remember Petrov fondly for what he did over his time at Celtic though. |
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| DKB | 12 Aug 2017, 06:06 PM Post #4549 |
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Getting on a bit
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I thought that Armstrong was clever enough to see what he can get by playing for us vs for a club like Southampton. He is never going to get an offer from a top 5 in England where he will be a regular player. So he won't win anything down there, most likely his team will battle to win once or twice a month, but hey the money are better But there will not be more medals for him unless his club are relegated and win their way back into the EPL in that case there will be a Championship bling on his wall, and the Championship is the closest he by name will get to the Champions League. No more CL nights facing the best in Europe, no more playing in front of 50/60.000 at home matches. No more being a part of a winning culture If he goes he will be replaced but he won't find a club in England that will replaced what he would gain by staying. If clubs like Dort mund, Schalke etc were knocking I could understand him but Southampton? I don’t get it. |
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| Tonus | 12 Aug 2017, 06:22 PM Post #4550 |
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First-team starter
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I wish he'd make up his mind so we don't just get another 20 pages of the same arguments over and over. |
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| JimG31Bhoy | 12 Aug 2017, 06:32 PM Post #4551 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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I'd be surprised if the negotiations haven't finished and both parties know the outcome. Celtic would rather have him off the premises than running down his contract and putting in half-hearted performances. |
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| southern bhoy | 12 Aug 2017, 06:36 PM Post #4552 |
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Considering retirement
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Celtic now need to finish this. State that he is for sale and take the best we can get. |
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| pauldg1 | 12 Aug 2017, 06:43 PM Post #4553 |
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A spray tanned Furby, eating KFC and screaming at a Gold Star family
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"It just needs to be resolved one way or the other because it has affected him, I can see it in him. He's a good guy, he was at the top of his game for 6 months last season and he did extremely well. He doesn't have the confidence at the moment, and certainly the contract situation is playing a huge part in that. So we're hoping that he can get it resolved one way or the other so that we can see the Stuart Armstrong that performed very well for a lot of last season." Really sounds like he's for the off, going by that. It's a real shame, because I like him a lot. But if an employee wants to do something different then what can you do? |
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| titch | 12 Aug 2017, 08:43 PM Post #4554 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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Wouldn't surprise me to find out he was another Telfer. Not really bothered about football, just a career to make as much money as possible as he has a talent for it. Never has and never will be a Celtic fan. To expect any less than what is the best for him is just a waste of time. Punt!!! |
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| Zurawski 7 | 12 Aug 2017, 10:38 PM Post #4555 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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| kewlcelt | 12 Aug 2017, 11:35 PM Post #4556 |
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Considering retirement
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Why would Brendan Rodgers be talking to Roddy Forsyth on a Saturday night? |
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| jimmy123411 | 12 Aug 2017, 11:37 PM Post #4557 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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" For whatever reason, it hasn’t." send over big jozo to sort out his agent. |
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| Gonga | 13 Aug 2017, 05:29 PM Post #4558 |
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Older than dirt
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| macfleeto | 13 Aug 2017, 06:29 PM Post #4559 |
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First-team starter
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Just sounded to me like Brendan was sending the board a message. |
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| georgiesleftpeg | 13 Aug 2017, 06:35 PM Post #4560 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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^Could be
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