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| Stuart Armstrong; 'Fishel: Signs for Southampton on a 4 year deal. | |
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| Topic Started: 18 Oct 2015, 09:50 PM (731,095 Views) | |
| Stephane_Mahe | 26 Jul 2017, 01:01 PM Post #4001 |
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Getting on a bit
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That benefits no one, including us. If he want sign a new contract we should be trying to sell him as soon as the CL qualifiers are done. If he won't move then we should keep playing him as and when Rodgers sees fit - we'd still be paying him and there's no reason to think that he wouldn't be professional when asked to play. Also, if our overall target is to get him to sign a new contract (either to keep him long term or so that he can't leave for free) then making him play and/or train with the reserves is hardly gonna help us. |
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| Bobby Peru | 26 Jul 2017, 01:01 PM Post #4002 |
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The Maestro
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We can't if he doesn't want to go. |
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| LambertandButler | 26 Jul 2017, 01:02 PM Post #4003 |
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The Greek Finance Minister
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Ridiculous to think that we might actually *lose* money on this player. I really don't understand why the club has allowed this to rumble on. If they really are only willing to offer him a third of what he knows he can make elsewhere, they should have put him up for transfer in effing May. |
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| Muzz | 26 Jul 2017, 01:03 PM Post #4004 |
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BRFA
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Pretty shampooe on his part but fair play. |
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| GetFunky | 26 Jul 2017, 01:03 PM Post #4005 |
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Local Hero
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As I said earlier in this thread, he'll be rightly requesting wages for what we value him at. We can't have it both ways. He's a 30k player and we should pay it. |
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| steviefrombelfast | 26 Jul 2017, 01:05 PM Post #4006 |
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Considering retirement
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I get the sense that part of the problem is that he ( or his agent) won't actually say what he wants to stay. Just seems to be ' I want more than that'. Personally I think if he was to ask for £20k/£25k a deal could be done. But the club can't negotiate on the basis of 'more'! |
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| Kingslim | 26 Jul 2017, 01:07 PM Post #4007 |
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69 and counting
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Not in Scotland he isn't. Brown isn't even on 30k per week and he's worth far more to the side than Armstrong. |
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| Luca | 26 Jul 2017, 01:19 PM Post #4008 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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The positive are that if he has a stinker from now until Xmas we'll have the upper hand in any new contract discussions. If he plays really well then he can justifiably ask to be compensated for maintaining that level and Celtic can approach it with a more rounded analysis of the player, his performances and his importance to the team. The negative is that his sell on price might go down purely because there is less of a contract to buy out. |
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| paulfg42 | 26 Jul 2017, 01:20 PM Post #4009 |
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Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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McNamara, Ledley and others (Izzy?) didn't want to go but Lawwell found a way. |
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| Bawman | 26 Jul 2017, 01:21 PM Post #4010 |
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Class is permanent.
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It's clear is about money. There's always a way. |
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| Patrick_Bateman | 26 Jul 2017, 01:22 PM Post #4011 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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Ledley definitely wanted to go. |
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| Ned Rise | 26 Jul 2017, 01:22 PM Post #4012 |
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These boots were made for hunbustin'
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Don't think Samaras wanted to go either. They tied him to a horse and slapped its arse. |
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| wigwam | 26 Jul 2017, 01:24 PM Post #4013 |
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Older than dirt
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Also, if his form dips again and he finds himself out the team and McGregor is playing, can he ask for the same money? Maybe suits both to sit tight for now. If he keeps his form up, maybe we'll offer him the higher wage. If he doesn't, he might well be begging us to sign for the lower. It wouldn't take much trawling through old transfer threads to find plenty folk saying 'just pay the money' for the likes of the young Dutch guy that went to Blackburn (Ritgers). it creates all kinds of knock on effects for other players. Bringing in higher paid players over the last year has led to SA thinking he should get more. You have to be sure they're worth it. Just checked out ritgers.... flopped Balckburn, 2 loans then Australia. Sure there were folk on here greetin that we missed out on him. |
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| paulfg42 | 26 Jul 2017, 01:25 PM Post #4014 |
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Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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Not the story that was going around at the time. |
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| wigwam | 26 Jul 2017, 01:25 PM Post #4015 |
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Older than dirt
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McNamara was out of contract? PL always finds a way! Even worked with bobo - eventually.
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| Patrick_Bateman | 26 Jul 2017, 01:28 PM Post #4016 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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Lenny specifically stated that Ledley didn't even respond to a contract offer that had been on the table for months and was just seeing it out... |
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| GetFunky | 26 Jul 2017, 01:33 PM Post #4017 |
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Local Hero
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Brown signed a new contract in 2014. He'll have a yearly wage rise in his contract and is probably creeping over the 30k mark. When Brown signed his contract he was at the upper limit. Dembele and Sinclair are on more than him now and paying Armstrong 30 grand a week and tying him down to a 4 year deal is an absolute no brainer. |
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| GetFunky | 26 Jul 2017, 01:34 PM Post #4018 |
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Local Hero
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Was Ledley not offered reduced terms? |
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| nails | 26 Jul 2017, 01:34 PM Post #4019 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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He didn't want to go to in January he was hoping to see his contact out so he could he get a large signing on fee in the summer That's what I heard at the time anyway Edited by nails, 26 Jul 2017, 01:35 PM.
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| Patrick_Bateman | 26 Jul 2017, 01:35 PM Post #4020 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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No |
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