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| Stuart Armstrong; 'Fishel: Signs for Southampton on a 4 year deal. | |
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| exiledinstonehaventim | 19 Jul 2017, 10:31 AM Post #3761 |
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IF there is £45,000 pw on the table for him-and £8m then it's as close to a racing certainty that he is going as can be. Celtic can't and won't pay him £45k pw. It's a shame to lose him but that's just how it is. The only real questions if this is the scenario is will Lawell get it up to £10m with a sell-on? I expect he will. AND where will the money go, both that money and the VVD sell on money which will be showing up at some point. I dare say Brendan will have a home for it. It's also worth mentioning-though no doubt it has been before-that Armstrong wasn't Brendan's player. He was always a decent player but Brendan has "next-levelled" him. If he gets his own players (Ntcham, Benyu, ++) and does the same then Armstrong will be forgotten about pretty quickly. Edited by exiledinstonehaventim, 19 Jul 2017, 10:34 AM.
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| Oscar Strummer | 19 Jul 2017, 10:37 AM Post #3762 |
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The Artist Formerly Known As lubomir25
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How many times was he one of the first names on the team sheet in the League last season ? |
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| oneillsrevolution | 19 Jul 2017, 10:39 AM Post #3763 |
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but in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.
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| Busbhoy | 19 Jul 2017, 10:51 AM Post #3764 |
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Getting noticed in the reserves
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Remind anyone of Liam Miller situation |
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| Otis B Driftwood | 19 Jul 2017, 10:54 AM Post #3765 |
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Satisfaction came in a chain reaction
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My view on this is the same as it always has been in this type of situation; if you don't want to play for Celtic, don't let the door hit your arse on the way out. |
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| puroresu_boy | 19 Jul 2017, 10:55 AM Post #3766 |
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I think its different in the sense Armstrong is a lot more of a seasoned pro than Miller was and would be leaving far better equipped than Miller was. |
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| jon bhoy | 19 Jul 2017, 10:57 AM Post #3767 |
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Keevins / Young / BFDJ- u r fuds !!
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I suspect he will go and it will be Brendan who says when he can go. He is replaceable and in a couple of month will be " remember Armstrong, he used to play for us"............far too overrated imo.
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| Stringer Bell | 19 Jul 2017, 10:58 AM Post #3768 |
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Getting on a bit
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Rogic's ability to keep the ball and find pockets of space to pick difficult passes will be absolutely crucial to us in the CL. Too often in these games we're guilty of giving the ball away needlessly. |
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| largent80 | 19 Jul 2017, 11:06 AM Post #3769 |
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- if, and it may be a big if, Rogic stays injury free this season, imho he is vital to how we play both domestically, to unpick packed defences, and in Europe for the reasons Stringer mentions above.
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| Dhogtanian | 19 Jul 2017, 11:11 AM Post #3770 |
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Retired and now an out of work Setanta pundit looking for a job at ESPN or Sky. Or BEIN or BT Sport!
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| MON's Left Eyebrow | 19 Jul 2017, 11:13 AM Post #3771 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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I still think he'll sign. |
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| green_equals_silver | 19 Jul 2017, 11:15 AM Post #3772 |
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On the basis Armstrong doesn't sign a new contract by the end of July I'd cash in on him before the window closes, set our stall out and make him available for transfer. £8m with a decent sell on fee and he can go, he's not irreplaceable IMO and while he had a great season how many other players have we had over the last while have a good season then drop off? Cash in while we can, we have a surplus of midfielders. I'm confident the money would be spent wisely. |
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| blanco | 19 Jul 2017, 11:23 AM Post #3773 |
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I suspect I'll be in the minority here but if there's an £8m offer on the table i'd accept it and let him go with best wishes, even if he was under contract for longer. |
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| Flawless | 19 Jul 2017, 11:25 AM Post #3774 |
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I can understand it with his contract running out. Can't fathom it if he had a longer to go on his contract. |
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| stevie21 | 19 Jul 2017, 11:28 AM Post #3775 |
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Poster of the Tuesday afternoon!
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17 goals from midfield is a big loss, but we seem to have an abundance of players vying for a place in midfield. Rogic, Armstrong and Ntcham all look like they want to play as number 10s - though Rodgers seems to have Ntcham as an 8. Based on the current squad that'd leave us with : Dembele Sinclair - Rogic/Armstrong - Forrest Brown - Ntcham As has been said, if he stays he seems certain to rotate in that position with Rogic. As well as the players above, there's McGregor, Benyu, Bitton, Hayes, Kouassi etc. also competing for a place somwhere in that 5. Not all competing directly with Armstrong, but maybe because we have so much competition for midfield in general, people aren't too worried about him leaving. |
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| Forza | 19 Jul 2017, 11:39 AM Post #3776 |
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Considering retirement
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That's exactly what I would do too. Take the first offer I knew about that was on the table, without seeking out any information on any other offer that may be incoming. I would absolutely not seek to negotiate further in a bid to extract the most amount of money for Celtic at all. After all, we don't really need the stuff. I mean, the English market is so flat right now that we would struggle to wring anything further from these cash strapped clubs. It would be a waste of our time, because we've not managed to sell above this level to English clubs before. In fact, I'd be tempted to lower the amount I wanted for him to maybe £6m, just because I've got an extremely slanted view of the player's ability, and can't hide my annoyance that the player has potentially indicated he would like to leave. In another thread, I'll have a moan about how media companies talk down Scottish football and Scottish football players, and how they don't give us a fair deal. |
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| Butters | 19 Jul 2017, 12:08 PM Post #3777 |
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When you sign a player you know full well he's only committed to the length of that contract unless he accepts a new deal. Seems moronic to be complaining if a player says I'll honor my contract then I want to go elsewhere, as for the accusations he won't try as much. Henrik Larsson made it clear he was leaving in 2002, he was as brilliant as ever in 2002/03 & 2003/04, |
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| FergusMcGrain | 19 Jul 2017, 12:14 PM Post #3778 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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The longer it goes the more likely he's for the off I would think. Hey, he's a footballer, not a Celtic supporter. Brendan has turned him into a real asset, but he really benefits from Celtic's style of play. He might be off for far better wages but very few leave Celtic and go onto greater things. Obviously a lot depends on who else we bring in, but if we are without both Armstrong and Roberts we will start the season weaker than we finished it. Football managers get paid a lot of money but continually having to rebuild teams must be a pain. |
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| McStay_8 | 19 Jul 2017, 12:57 PM Post #3779 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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To say we won't miss him is complete rubbish. Don't delude yourselves on that. But if he wants to leave and we have offered the best we can then so be it. |
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| Ste | 19 Jul 2017, 01:14 PM Post #3780 |
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The Eagle Has Landed
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Too often we struggle to win the ball back when we don't have it. Away from home in Europe I'd be surprised to see Rogic starting if we had Armstrong, Brown and Ntcham available. Rogic is a player who excels when we have more of the ball. |
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- if, and it may be a big if, Rogic stays injury free this season, imho he is vital to how we play both domestically, to unpick packed defences, and in Europe for the reasons Stringer mentions above.


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