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| Stuart Armstrong; 'Fishel: Signs for Southampton on a 4 year deal. | |
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| Topic Started: 18 Oct 2015, 09:50 PM (731,108 Views) | |
| Ste | 19 Jul 2017, 08:09 AM Post #3741 |
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The Eagle Has Landed
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For me I'd rather have Rogic and Brown in the midfield 3 than Armstrong and Brown. That leaves 1 space for Armstrong, Ntcham, Benyu, McGregor, Eboue and Bitton. I don't think our 4.5m man will be sitting on the bench. |
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| dannyclyro | 19 Jul 2017, 08:12 AM Post #3742 |
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Like you can smell the psychosphere
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"Shafting". If a guy signs a contract and decides to complete it professionally then leave at the end, he's not "shafting" us. It's not great when we are the club on the receiving end of a Bosman but on other occasions we've been the beneficiaries. He's not a Celtic fan. He's a professional footballer. There's no shafting here, he signed a deal and is happy to complete it; in what area of employment does that mean you need to sign another deal before you're allowed to leave, "so's we kin get some dosh n'at, no"? |
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| randombloke | 19 Jul 2017, 08:13 AM Post #3743 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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If Armstrong declines the new contract on offer (and that's sheer speculation at this point) I expect he'll go on to play a part in the team until his contract expires or he's sold. If a club is being professionally and competently run then "freezing out" of players only happens in one of two circumstances; 1. The player is acting the erse and either not putting in the effort as his contract runs down or being some sort of disruptive influence in the dressing room. Dunno if we've had anyone in that category in recent years, can't think of one off the top of my head. 2. He is genuinely surplus to requirements and has no role to play in the team - I guess Kris Commons fell in to this category...formerly a key part of the team, but found that he just didn't fit in the new manager's tactics through no fault of his own. Even then I don't think he was told to train with the kids or stay away at any point and he was available for selection if an injury crisis or a sudden rethink of tactics made it necessary. Armstrong is certainly still a good fit for the team and I think is professional enough to see out his contract while remaining fully committed to the team. He'll play his part even if he's decided to see out his contract and leave on a free (as is his right). |
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| The Wizard of Tim | 19 Jul 2017, 08:23 AM Post #3744 |
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First-team starter
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I agree with this My only concern will be the 40/60 balls that need to be won away in Europe and at Snake Mountain- a player with one foot already out the door will rarely win those. |
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| Otis | 19 Jul 2017, 08:27 AM Post #3745 |
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Has his boots and is available for selection
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If he stays, he stays, if he goes, he goes. From the recent signings that BR has made recently, I think he is preparing for that and giving Armstrong & his agent a clear message. |
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| Spooky88 | 19 Jul 2017, 08:38 AM Post #3746 |
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Getting noticed in the reserves
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What a saga this is turning out to be, my memory isn't great but did the player himself not say he was keen to stay (interviewed at SCF). The Manager was positive about the prospect of him staying, everything else is speculation. I expect he will sign up, 3 year deal. |
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| wigwam | 19 Jul 2017, 08:40 AM Post #3747 |
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Older than dirt
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Yeah, folk are that gullible they'd barely notice Dembele leaving because Armstrong signed a new deal. Lawwell's likely very happy with the way things have gone over the last year. |
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| Flawless | 19 Jul 2017, 08:42 AM Post #3748 |
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Fatboab shirt designer
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And for me it's something completely different. And no doubt for 100's of us. I'm talking about Brendan. Brendan plays Armstrong. |
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| SuperHans67 | 19 Jul 2017, 09:02 AM Post #3749 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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I remember being slightly annoyed at the time we'd given ourselves 3.5 years of Armstrong while getting 4.5 years of GMS.I think that's something to be read in to. He's a clever man and probably has a path in his mind, he's 25 or so and might not have another three quarter season like he just had. I do think he should give us another 2 years though. |
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| lubolubo | 19 Jul 2017, 09:05 AM Post #3750 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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Rodgers also just signed a box to box player who could fit into Armstrongs position without too much trouble. The calculus of playing an Armstrong who is running down his contract is different to one who is not, especially when you have a plethora of midfield options. Edited by lubolubo, 19 Jul 2017, 09:50 AM.
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| puroresu_boy | 19 Jul 2017, 09:34 AM Post #3751 |
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First-team starter
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BR has form for pushing a player out of the first team squad with Suarez but that was different. Suarez made it public he wanted to go and claimed the Manager verbally said he could go. He also was taking liberties in training so Rodgers made him train alone until he sorted himself out. For me unless a player is letting down his teammates he should be part of the 1st team squad regardless if he wants to move. I don't think a player wanting to move on effects other players as its part and parcel of the game. Players come, players go. |
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| Big Drew | 19 Jul 2017, 09:42 AM Post #3752 |
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Rio Fergus McCann CSC
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Yeah, Ntcham didnt even make our bench last season. Armstrong wont leave a hole in the squad now. |
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| Ste | 19 Jul 2017, 09:46 AM Post #3753 |
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The Eagle Has Landed
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Where did he play him when Rogic was fit? Beside Brown. It's Armstrong or Rogic to drop out for Ntcham and nobody knows who that'll be yet... |
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| allthewine | 19 Jul 2017, 09:51 AM Post #3754 |
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Club Captain
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Pish. |
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| Bobby Peru | 19 Jul 2017, 09:53 AM Post #3755 |
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The Maestro
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It should go without saying but the team selection will vary from game to game. |
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| Luca | 19 Jul 2017, 09:56 AM Post #3756 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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| greenjedi | 19 Jul 2017, 10:04 AM Post #3757 |
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Jedi Master
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If Armstrong decides to see out his contract he's picking a high risk strategy, he was only a millimetre or so away from a broken ankle on Friday night. There will be plenty of similar assaults throughout the season. |
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| Forza | 19 Jul 2017, 10:12 AM Post #3758 |
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Considering retirement
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As pointed out, running down your contract is no picnic. Zlatan was injured in April, no new contract come mid July upon the expiry of his original 1 year deal. Players like Zlatan can do it because they are at the end of their career, have earned a fortune, and can negotiate enormous salaries without being encumbered by transfer fees. Players in their mid 20 who tend to be in demand don't allow that to happen. All it takes is one injury. I'd be amazed if it wasn't done and dusted one way or another before the end of the window. |
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| peejaybee | 19 Jul 2017, 10:15 AM Post #3759 |
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Youth team player
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Tough crowd.
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| Ste | 19 Jul 2017, 10:19 AM Post #3760 |
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The Eagle Has Landed
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I agree - I think Rogic will drop out in tougher games in Europe if all of our current players stay but for the most in the SPFL I reckon he'll be one of the first names on the team sheet given the creativity he brings to the team. |
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, but Armstrong gets a new deal and everyone is kinda happy, when in reality he was never going.
I remember being slightly annoyed at the time we'd given ourselves 3.5 years of Armstrong while getting 4.5 years of GMS.

8:57 AM Jul 11