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Stuart Armstrong; 'Fishel: Signs for Southampton on a 4 year deal.
Topic Started: 18 Oct 2015, 09:50 PM (731,138 Views)
Gerinho
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adammce
10 Jul 2017, 12:44 AM
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10 Jul 2017, 12:16 AM
weebaldy
10 Jul 2017, 12:03 AM
He was an average player until Brendan worked some magic on him. I think he should show some loyalty in return, or is that just old fashioned?
If he goes I'll be bitter, but then didn't we initially sign him on a pre-contract, only for DU to cave and accept a fee in January rather than lose him for nothing in the summer? And this is the club that brought him through their youth ranks. He's shown he's willing to do it before is all I'm saying. I'm not convinced Stuart has much loyalty to anyone but Stuart, but I hope I'm wrong about that.
Why should he show any loyalty, though, really? He's not a Celtic fan. Fans were slating him to eff all of the 15/16 season (deservedly at times) and most thought he should have been punted. When was the loyalty then? Where was the support for a player going through a bad time? If you want to see loyalty from him now, it should have been shown on our side when he was in the doldrums last season. Two way street, mate.

I'm not even saying he deserved that, but to demand loyalty to someone who was on the out list for most supporters is a bit funny.
Fair comments. Amazing the direction of his career now as opposed to where it was heading towards the end of deila reign. Hes probably more aware of that than anyone and is conscious of how quickly things can turn in football (good or bad). As a result he's quite right to look for the most rewarding contract he can get and if that is in england, then so be it.
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adammce
10 Jul 2017, 12:44 AM
Tenenbaum
10 Jul 2017, 12:16 AM
weebaldy
10 Jul 2017, 12:03 AM
He was an average player until Brendan worked some magic on him. I think he should show some loyalty in return, or is that just old fashioned?
If he goes I'll be bitter, but then didn't we initially sign him on a pre-contract, only for DU to cave and accept a fee in January rather than lose him for nothing in the summer? And this is the club that brought him through their youth ranks. He's shown he's willing to do it before is all I'm saying. I'm not convinced Stuart has much loyalty to anyone but Stuart, but I hope I'm wrong about that.
Why should he show any loyalty, though, really? He's not a Celtic fan. Fans were slating him to eff all of the 15/16 season (deservedly at times) and most thought he should have been punted. When was the loyalty then? Where was the support for a player going through a bad time? If you want to see loyalty from him now, it should have been shown on our side when he was in the doldrums last season. Two way street, mate.

I'm not even saying he deserved that, but to demand loyalty to someone who was on the out list for most supporters is a bit funny. Hope he stays personally, cracking player, but no hard feelings if he left.
I'd be bitter if he went for cheap with a year left on his contract the same way I was absolutely raging when Collins went to Monaco on a free. You can understand the modern game without having to like it. You can even acknowledge hypocrisy in yourself and others without it changing a single thing about how you feel. Anyway, I was getting him confused with GMS because we got them at the same time.
Edited by Tenenbaum, 10 Jul 2017, 01:16 AM.
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It appears that it is likely entirely about the money. Interesting one for Lawell to play. I'm sure he'll get the best part of £10m from some EPL clubs late in the transfer window. Given that we 'stole' Dembele we can't complain too much though it is disappointing given the fairly obvious transformation in Armstrong under Rodgers.
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Anything over £7 million, punt! Nice guy, but would have been playing for ICT or Dundee United if BR hadn't made a player out of him
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10 Jul 2017, 12:04 AM
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9 Jul 2017, 10:45 PM
There are no quotes in that article AND there's no doubt in my mind there is more this situation than just details of a contract.

FWIW I think he's for the off.
Agree - combination of usual mess up by Lawwell and Armstrong being full of himself is doomed relationship

Armstrong has had 5/6 good months for us and will die a death elsewhere - he's making a mess of his career here
Agree about the usual mess-up from Lawwell (and said so, to the chagrin of some :brickwall: ) earlier in the thread.

Can't be many worse football contract negotiators (on a million a year, no less), the player should've been on a longer contract to begin with, apart from anything else.

Still, I suppose that's what happens, when you've a jumped-up jobsworth accountant, running that particular show :nono:

Can't entirely agree that the player will mess up his career if he goes.
He's easily the best Scottish midfielder since Lambert, and may well end up at a top club, either darn sarf, or abroad, in the next coupla years.
He has that ghosting ability that can't really be taught, and seems to be rare in the game, currently.

Hope we can keep him.
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10 Jul 2017, 09:46 AM
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10 Jul 2017, 12:04 AM
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9 Jul 2017, 10:45 PM
There are no quotes in that article AND there's no doubt in my mind there is more this situation than just details of a contract.

FWIW I think he's for the off.
Agree - combination of usual mess up by Lawwell and Armstrong being full of himself is doomed relationship

Armstrong has had 5/6 good months for us and will die a death elsewhere - he's making a mess of his career here
Agree about the usual mess-up from Lawwell (and said so, to the chagrin of some :brickwall: ) earlier in the thread.

Can't be many worse football contract negotiators (on a million a year, no less), the player should've been on a longer contract to begin with, apart from anything else.

Still, I suppose that's what happens, when you've a jumped-up jobsworth accountant, running that particular show :nono:

Can't entirely agree that the player will mess up his career if he goes.
He's easily the best Scottish midfielder since Lambert, and may well end up at a top club, either darn sarf, or abroad, in the next coupla years.
He has that ghosting ability that can't really be taught, and seems to be rare in the game, currently.

Hope we can keep him.
Better than Scott Brown? :ponder:
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If the agent is playing funny beggars then call his bluff and withdraw the offer. We will see how much he wants his client to stay then
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10 Jul 2017, 09:49 AM
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10 Jul 2017, 09:46 AM
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10 Jul 2017, 12:04 AM

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Agree about the usual mess-up from Lawwell (and said so, to the chagrin of some :brickwall: ) earlier in the thread.

Can't be many worse football contract negotiators (on a million a year, no less), the player should've been on a longer contract to begin with, apart from anything else.

Still, I suppose that's what happens, when you've a jumped-up jobsworth accountant, running that particular show :nono:

Can't entirely agree that the player will mess up his career if he goes.
He's easily the best Scottish midfielder since Lambert, and may well end up at a top club, either darn sarf, or abroad, in the next coupla years.
He has that ghosting ability that can't really be taught, and seems to be rare in the game, currently.

Hope we can keep him.
Better than Scott Brown? :ponder:
Different. Very different player from Brown. But better ?

No. Not by a long way.


I'd like to see his situation resolved one way or another in the very near future.
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He'll have finished the degree then?
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He is worth a good contract, he hasn't peaked yet, has good resale value and is a Scottish internationalist. Is he replaceable? Absolutely, but there is more to come from him and it would be a shame for him not to build on what was a really strong season in this present team. It is disappointing that it is dragging on though.
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I think he will be better than Brown. He has better technique but still has the work rate and engine on him that someone like a Rogic does not. He's a very complete midfielder and may well replace Brown as captain if he sticks around.
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Quite a similar situation to Rogic last summer. Hopefully a similar outcome.

I reckon he'll sign the new deal FWIW.
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georgiesleftpeg
10 Jul 2017, 09:46 AM
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10 Jul 2017, 12:04 AM
Bawman
9 Jul 2017, 10:45 PM
There are no quotes in that article AND there's no doubt in my mind there is more this situation than just details of a contract.

FWIW I think he's for the off.
Agree - combination of usual mess up by Lawwell and Armstrong being full of himself is doomed relationship

Armstrong has had 5/6 good months for us and will die a death elsewhere - he's making a mess of his career here
Agree about the usual mess-up from Lawwell (and said so, to the chagrin of some :brickwall: ) earlier in the thread.

Can't be many worse football contract negotiators (on a million a year, no less), the player should've been on a longer contract to begin with, apart from anything else.

Still, I suppose that's what happens, when you've a jumped-up jobsworth accountant, running that particular show :nono:

Can't entirely agree that the player will mess up his career if he goes.
He's easily the best Scottish midfielder since Lambert, and may well end up at a top club, either darn sarf, or abroad, in the next coupla years.
He has that ghosting ability that can't really be taught, and seems to be rare in the game, currently.

Hope we can keep him.
Squelch squelch. :lol:
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10 Jul 2017, 10:01 AM
I think he will be better than Brown. He has better technique but still has the work rate and engine on him that someone like a Rogic does not. He's a very complete midfielder and may well replace Brown as captain if he sticks around.
No chance.
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10 Jul 2017, 10:01 AM
I think he will be better than Brown. He has better technique but still has the work rate and engine on him that someone like a Rogic does not. He's a very complete midfielder and may well replace Brown as captain if he sticks around.
/faints :lmao:
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10 Jul 2017, 09:46 AM
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10 Jul 2017, 12:04 AM
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9 Jul 2017, 10:45 PM
There are no quotes in that article AND there's no doubt in my mind there is more this situation than just details of a contract.

FWIW I think he's for the off.
Agree - combination of usual mess up by Lawwell and Armstrong being full of himself is doomed relationship

Armstrong has had 5/6 good months for us and will die a death elsewhere - he's making a mess of his career here
Agree about the usual mess-up from Lawwell (and said so, to the chagrin of some :brickwall: ) earlier in the thread.

Can't be many worse football contract negotiators (on a million a year, no less), the player should've been on a longer contract to begin with, apart from anything else.

Still, I suppose that's what happens, when you've a jumped-up jobsworth accountant, running that particular show :nono:

Can't entirely agree that the player will mess up his career if he goes.
He's easily the best Scottish midfielder since Lambert, and may well end up at a top club, either darn sarf, or abroad, in the next coupla years.
He has that ghosting ability that can't really be taught, and seems to be rare in the game, currently.

Hope we can keep him.
He's made a few cock-ups over his time in charge, but by and large, we have been pretty good at getting players signed to new deals. Certainly no worse than any other club.

This past few years we've had; Rogic, Lustig, Izaguirre, Gordon, Forrest, Griffiths, Tierney, McGregor and a few of more promising younger players all sign improved deals or extensions.

Fair enough there will always be one or two who don't extend or renew, Ledley and Hooper are two that I would have liked to have seen stay in recentish times, but the assumption that we always arse up new deals or make a meal out of them isn't true.
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10 Jul 2017, 10:01 AM
I think he will be better than Brown. He has better technique but still has the work rate and engine on him that someone like a Rogic does not. He's a very complete midfielder and may well replace Brown as captain if he sticks around.
I agree. And he scores more goals. I reckon he'll see this as a good time to move on to a bigger cobtract though.
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9 Jul 2017, 11:56 PM
Apparently he doesn't even have an agent so that story could be pish from the get go

Supposedly his father looks after all his business dealings
He's represented by pfa Scotland with his dad sticking his tuppence worth in

Armstrong is either gonna be sold, and happily so, or he's gonna have to grow a set and tell them to get a deal done

He's not worth being one of our highest paid players just because his dad thinks he is

If it's money he wants he's better off going
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10 Jul 2017, 10:27 AM
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10 Jul 2017, 10:01 AM
I think he will be better than Brown. He has better technique but still has the work rate and engine on him that someone like a Rogic does not. He's a very complete midfielder and may well replace Brown as captain if he sticks around.
I agree. And he scores more goals. I reckon he'll see this as a good time to move on to a bigger cobtract though.
Let him earn his corn :ph43r:
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Armstrong is a very talented guy who needs to be playing in the right team to really flourish. Right now Celtic are setup perfectly for him and he's excelled as a result. He'll be aware that he can get more cash playing for a team at the lower end of the EPL but he'll struggle in a team playing rotten football.

Whatever we've offered will no doubt be a significant increase on his current deal so he'll be a wealthy young man regardless. If he does well with us for another 2 or 3 years the EPL money will still be an option and he'll have a number of medals and Scotland caps to add to his collection.
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