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Stuart Armstrong; 'Fishel: Signs for Southampton on a 4 year deal.
Topic Started: 18 Oct 2015, 09:50 PM (731,177 Views)
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Not sure if theres any credible interest, or if Stuart wants to leave, but he'd be a mug to 1) leave at this stage in his development 2) not use his good form and reputed interest interest to drive up his salary.

I guess there will be a compromise somewhere along the way. If not, get him to eff in the summer.
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Has there been any indication or hint whatsoever that Armstrong has shown any interest in leaving?

If not, can the "he can gtf" brigrade gtf?
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mick82
1 Apr 2017, 11:22 AM
Has there been any indication or hint whatsoever that Armstrong has shown any interest in leaving?

If not, can the "he can gtf" brigrade gtf?
No

There was a suggestion he was offered a new contract but thought he was worth more


That was it
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1 Apr 2017, 11:30 AM
mick82
1 Apr 2017, 11:22 AM
Has there been any indication or hint whatsoever that Armstrong has shown any interest in leaving?

If not, can the "he can gtf" brigrade gtf?
No

There was a suggestion he was offered a new contract but thought he was worth more


That was it
Cool - hadn't read/heard that.
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xbillups
1 Apr 2017, 10:57 AM
Alarming number of people appear to think James Corden is in charge of West Ham's transfer policy.
He can't be.

He's never done anything as funny as West Ham's bid for Dembele. The fat tosser.
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1 Apr 2017, 09:34 AM
False no.9?
And leave us weak in midfield and attack?
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I'd start with Aitchison up front tomorrow. That leaves is with a full strength team bar one player and we should be ok.
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1 Apr 2017, 09:34 AM
False no.9?
And leave us weak in midfield and attack?
We're already weak in attack.
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1 Apr 2017, 06:36 PM
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False no.9?
And leave us weak in midfield and attack?
We're already weak in attack.
Yep. So why weaken another part of the team?
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xbillups
1 Apr 2017, 10:57 AM
Alarming number of people appear to think James Corden is in charge of West Ham's transfer policy.
He can't be.

He's never done anything as funny as West Ham's bid for Dembele. The fat tosser.
:lol: :lol: :thumbsup:
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1 Apr 2017, 06:36 PM
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1 Apr 2017, 02:35 PM

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We're already weak in attack.
Yep. So why weaken another part of the team?
Because we either throw in a youngster who might not be ready for it, or move another player out of their natural position to fill the striking role. Neither is ideal. Maybe Aitchison is ready, but if he's not then I don't think it's fair to him to play him. BR will have a much better idea than the rest of us.

If we move Sinclair from left then we weaken the left side. Pushing Armstrong further forward might backfire but I think he could do a similar job to what Fabregas used to do at Barca when Messi was out
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1 Apr 2017, 06:36 PM

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Yep. So why weaken another part of the team?
Because we either throw in a youngster who might not be ready for it, or move another player out of their natural position to fill the striking role. Neither is ideal. Maybe Aitchison is ready, but if he's not then I don't think it's fair to him to play him. BR will have a much better idea than the rest of us.

If we move Sinclair from left then we weaken the left side. Pushing Armstrong further forward might backfire but I think he could do a similar job to what Fabregas used to do at Barca when Messi was out
Or we do what we did last time we were without both strikers, and play Roberts.

Fabregas wasn't a first pick in midfield, so he wasn't getting shunted forward from there.
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1 Apr 2017, 07:31 PM

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Because we either throw in a youngster who might not be ready for it, or move another player out of their natural position to fill the striking role. Neither is ideal. Maybe Aitchison is ready, but if he's not then I don't think it's fair to him to play him. BR will have a much better idea than the rest of us.

If we move Sinclair from left then we weaken the left side. Pushing Armstrong further forward might backfire but I think he could do a similar job to what Fabregas used to do at Barca when Messi was out
Or we do what we did last time we were without both strikers, and play Roberts.

Fabregas wasn't a first pick in midfield, so he wasn't getting shunted forward from there.
I think he's more likely to do that or give Aitchison a chance and I take on board Bobby Peru's point.

Losing both Griffiths and Dembele is a problem tho. Neither Sinclair nor Roberts have excelled when played through the middle and it's not their natural position so if we have to think up another alternative then I'd throw Armstrong into the mix in the same way MON did with Petrov when Sutton, Hartson and Maloney were injured
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Or we do what we did last time we were without both strikers, and play Roberts.

Fabregas wasn't a first pick in midfield, so he wasn't getting shunted forward from there.
I think he's more likely to do that or give Aitchison a chance and I take on board Bobby Peru's point.

Losing both Griffiths and Dembele is a problem tho. Neither Sinclair nor Roberts have excelled when played through the middle and it's not their natural position so if we have to think up another alternative then I'd throw Armstrong into the mix in the same way MON did with Petrov when Sutton, Hartson and Maloney were injured
Petrov playing slightly further forward didn't necessitate picking Bitton and McGregor in midfield :lol:
That's the issue for me.

Taking a punt that maybe Armstrong can do a job up top, while picking guys in midfield you'd rather have nowhere near the team.
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I think he's more likely to do that or give Aitchison a chance and I take on board Bobby Peru's point.

Losing both Griffiths and Dembele is a problem tho. Neither Sinclair nor Roberts have excelled when played through the middle and it's not their natural position so if we have to think up another alternative then I'd throw Armstrong into the mix in the same way MON did with Petrov when Sutton, Hartson and Maloney were injured
Petrov playing slightly further forward didn't necessitate picking Bitton and McGregor in midfield :lol:
That's the issue for me.

Taking a punt that maybe Armstrong can do a job up top, while picking guys in midfield you'd rather have nowhere near the team.
At least one of them will start tomorrow.

Neither did well in their last starts but i wouldn't have a worry about either of them.

The Petrov example struck me because the alternatives were Beattie (who was too young to make an impact), Syall or Smith (neither of whom were really good enough at centre forward).

Bitton and McGregor have both been picked as first choice in midfield on a number of occasions this season. The same won't be said for whoever is picked to play up front tomorrow.
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Petrov playing slightly further forward didn't necessitate picking Bitton and McGregor in midfield :lol:
That's the issue for me.

Taking a punt that maybe Armstrong can do a job up top, while picking guys in midfield you'd rather have nowhere near the team.
At least one of them will start tomorrow.

Neither did well in their last starts but i wouldn't have a worry about either of them.

The Petrov example struck me because the alternatives were Beattie (who was too young to make an impact), Syall or Smith (neither of whom were really good enough at centre forward).

Bitton and McGregor have both been picked as first choice in midfield on a number of occasions this season. The same won't be said for whoever is picked to play up front tomorrow.
Our first choice midfield is Brown, Armstrong, and Rogic.
We're down Rogic, so McGregor will likely be in for him.
Taking another of our star midfielders out to give him a shot up front?
Not for me.

Bit different playing up front on your own, and playing just off the finest CF in the country :thumbsup:
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1 Apr 2017, 06:33 PM
I'd start with Aitchison up front tomorrow. That leaves is with a full strength team bar one player and we should be ok.
The fella's movement is astounding. If he plays I have no doubt he will score.
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At least one of them will start tomorrow.

Neither did well in their last starts but i wouldn't have a worry about either of them.

The Petrov example struck me because the alternatives were Beattie (who was too young to make an impact), Syall or Smith (neither of whom were really good enough at centre forward).

Bitton and McGregor have both been picked as first choice in midfield on a number of occasions this season. The same won't be said for whoever is picked to play up front tomorrow.
Our first choice midfield is Brown, Armstrong, and Rogic.
We're down Rogic, so McGregor will likely be in for him.
Taking another of our star midfielders out to give him a shot up front?
Not for me.

Bit different playing up front on your own, and playing just off the finest CF in the country :thumbsup:
Agree on first choice. Think Bitton will get nod ahead of McGregor tomo.

My point is that my main motivation wouldn't be to play Armstrong in midfield to lessen the likelihood of McGregor or Bitton starting. I know virtually nothing about Aitchison so I don't assume anything about him.

An effective centreforward is very important to our game plan. If Aitchison, Sinclair or Roberts can't perform to the necessary level (and maybe they can) then I think Armstrong could maybe do a job and I wouldn't rule him out just because his place in midfield would be taken by a player who is rated less by the fans than by the manager.

Petrov did partner Larsson and our system is quite different now. I think that's why it's more important that we get it right
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Our first choice midfield is Brown, Armstrong, and Rogic.
We're down Rogic, so McGregor will likely be in for him.
Taking another of our star midfielders out to give him a shot up front?
Not for me.

Bit different playing up front on your own, and playing just off the finest CF in the country :thumbsup:
Agree on first choice. Think Bitton will get nod ahead of McGregor tomo.

My point is that my main motivation wouldn't be to play Armstrong in midfield to lessen the likelihood of McGregor or Bitton starting. I know virtually nothing about Aitchison so I don't assume anything about him.

An effective centreforward is very important to our game plan. If Aitchison, Sinclair or Roberts can't perform to the necessary level (and maybe they can) then I think Armstrong could maybe do a job and I wouldn't rule him out just because his place in midfield would be taken by a player who is rated less by the fans than by the manager.

Petrov did partner Larsson and our system is quite different now. I think that's why it's more important that we get it right
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Too late to recall Ciftci? :ph43r:
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Agree on first choice. Think Bitton will get nod ahead of McGregor tomo.

My point is that my main motivation wouldn't be to play Armstrong in midfield to lessen the likelihood of McGregor or Bitton starting. I know virtually nothing about Aitchison so I don't assume anything about him.

An effective centreforward is very important to our game plan. If Aitchison, Sinclair or Roberts can't perform to the necessary level (and maybe they can) then I think Armstrong could maybe do a job and I wouldn't rule him out just because his place in midfield would be taken by a player who is rated less by the fans than by the manager.

Petrov did partner Larsson and our system is quite different now. I think that's why it's more important that we get it right
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Too late to recall Ciftci? :ph43r:
This is what we get for not splashing the cash on Joey Garner
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