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Tom Rogic; Signs new 5 year deal. Rejoice rejoice.
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Love him, the close controlto get out of difficult spots is Zidane or Riquelme like, and through baws we have been desperate for since Naka went.

A joy to watch.

His pass for Christie's goal against Motherwell in the last game of the season was an absolute joy. Had me fooled in the stands but the switch of feet and through ball was sublime. :worthy:
His creating chances is a must improve area for him, 3 assists in 24 games this season, is way way way to little for player in his position
Jesus Christ, you're in danger of basically admitting you have no understanding of football here mate.

Rogic is by a distance the most creative player in our team, his direct assists might be low but he's more often than not the guy who cuts teams open, take Wednesday as a perfect example, he slots a lovely through ball to Moussa, 1 on 1 with the keeper, he chooses to slide it to Griffiths, that goal was all about Rogic's vision and weight of pass but because some people only choose to look at stats in their most basic form they then come out with stuff like "Rogic needs to make more assists"
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Big tam rogic leaves Celtic park in moonboot hope he's gonny be ok
It's certainly a fashion faux pas, but he'll get over it I'm sure.
Does oor Paul live in a tent on Celtic way?
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Some of his reverse passes and slide through passes yesterday were unbelievable.
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So who takes his place while he's out? Christie or Roberts probably? Maybe push Armstrong into that area?
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His creating chances is a must improve area for him, 3 assists in 24 games this season, is way way way to little for player in his position
Jesus Christ, you're in danger of basically admitting you have no understanding of football here mate.

Rogic is by a distance the most creative player in our team, his direct assists might be low but he's more often than not the guy who cuts teams open, take Wednesday as a perfect example, he slots a lovely through ball to Moussa, 1 on 1 with the keeper, he chooses to slide it to Griffiths, that goal was all about Rogic's vision and weight of pass but because some people only choose to look at stats in their most basic form they then come out with stuff like "Rogic needs to make more assists"
Chris Morris got the assist for McAvennie's goal, but it was McStay's pass that made it.

Griffiths' goal on Tuesday was similar: assist for Moussa, but no doubt about who created the opportunity.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepway way way to little for player in his position
Jesus Christ, you're in danger of basically admitting you have no understanding of football here mate.

Rogic is by a distance the most creative player in our team, his direct assists might be low but he's more often than not the guy who cuts teams open, take Wednesday as a perfect example, he slots a lovely through ball to Moussa, 1 on 1 with the keeper, he chooses to slide it to Griffiths, that goal was all about Rogic's vision and weight of pass but because some people only choose to look at stats in their most basic form they then come out with stuff like "Rogic needs to make more assists"
Chris Morris got the assist for McAvennie's goal, but it was McStay's pass that made it.

Griffiths' goal on Tuesday was similar: assist for Moussa, but no doubt about who created the opportunity.
I came back onto this topic specifically with that goal in mind, if we are using website stats to back a players creativity then guys like Paul McStay would never look good, creating goals is more than just the final pass
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Any word on his injury?
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Any word on his injury?
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Any word on his injury?
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Paul Hartley insisting it was never a foul on Rogic, he is adamant it was a fair challenge and O' Dea won the ball. Seriously ? I know it must have been disappointing from his point of view that Dundee hung on almost till HT without conceding after Celtic's onslaught in that first 45, but if he looks at the challenge again, surely he would have to concede that O' Dea might well have won the ball, but he came through the back of Rogic, took everything and cleaned him out in doing so. It's a foul.
I'm pretty sure, even if he is OK, with all the games coming up, he might well be rested as a precaution for the Thistle game on Tuesday, especially with Roberts, Sinclair and maybe Forrest to come back in. None direct replacements for Rogic, but they would allow a reshuffle.
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Paul Hartley insisting it was never a foul on Rogic, he is adamant it was a fair challenge and O' Dea won the ball. Seriously ? I know it must have been disappointing from his point of view that Dundee hung on almost till HT without conceding after Celtic's onslaught in that first 45, but if he looks at the challenge again, surely he would have to concede that O' Dea might well have won the ball, but he came through the back of Rogic, took everything and cleaned him out in doing so. It's a foul.
I'm pretty sure, even if he is OK, with all the games coming up, he might well be rested as a precaution for the Thistle game on Tuesday, especially with Roberts, Sinclair and maybe Forrest to come back in. None direct replacements for Rogic, but they would allow a reshuffle.
Did you watch Paul hartley wgen he played for us or Hearts? Some folk, a lot in fact, within the game haven't moved on as the game has progressed. Unfortunately for us and Scotland in general a lot of people in important possisions, including referees, are among the number of folk left behind. That is why we struggle to bring through technical players. Guys like Keith Lasley are lauded as being honest pros when in fact they are the very reason Scotland as a country are shampooe at fitba.

O'Dea did the right thing for his club yesterday. Rogic was running the show so he took the opportunity to go in hard for the ball. Yes he did get his studs to the ball first but it was a foul. However I can totally understand those of a Dundee persusion focusing on O'Dea touching the ball first before coming through Tom. It is the way football fans and men operate.
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So who takes his place while he's out? Christie or Roberts probably? Maybe push Armstrong into that area?
Armstrong for me, Roberts is ineffective through the middle.
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So who takes his place while he's out? Christie or Roberts probably? Maybe push Armstrong into that area?
Armstrong for me, Roberts is ineffective through the middle.
Armstrong is playing in Rogic's position. They've both been playing inside forward type rolls for the last few weeks
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So who takes his place while he's out? Christie or Roberts probably? Maybe push Armstrong into that area?
Armstrong for me, Roberts is ineffective through the middle.
Armstrong is playing in Rogic's position. They've both been playing inside forward type rolls for the last few weeks
I disagree. I think Armstrong is starting off deeper but is given licence to get forward and support. Rogic's starting position is far higher up the pitch.


A while ago i'd have wanted Armstrong to deputise for Rogic but now I think I'd rather keep Armstrong near Brown.
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So who takes his place while he's out? Christie or Roberts probably? Maybe push Armstrong into that area?
Armstrong for me, Roberts is ineffective through the middle.
Armstrong is playing in Rogic's position. They've both been playing inside forward type rolls for the last few weeks
What a great chance for Commons to get a few games :thumbsup:

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Armstrong is playing in Rogic's position. They've both been playing inside forward type rolls for the last few weeks
I disagree. I think Armstrong is starting off deeper but is given licence to get forward and support. Rogic's starting position is far higher up the pitch.


A while ago i'd have wanted Armstrong to deputise for Rogic but now I think I'd rather keep Armstrong near Brown.
Fair enough, but I think he is.

On Tues after 20 mins there was an instruction sent on for Armstrong to drop deeper alongside Brown and Rogic moved from 'inside right' to a central no.10.
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I'd like to see Christie deputise for Rogic on Tuesday with Sinclair.amd Roberts either side of him, I felt he took a lot more responsibility in the 2nd half yesterday without Rogic and if he had better options either side of him it'd have done him a world of good
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Paul Hartley insisting it was never a foul on Rogic, he is adamant it was a fair challenge and O' Dea won the ball. Seriously ? I know it must have been disappointing from his point of view that Dundee hung on almost till HT without conceding after Celtic's onslaught in that first 45, but if he looks at the challenge again, surely he would have to concede that O' Dea might well have won the ball, but he came through the back of Rogic, took everything and cleaned him out in doing so. It's a foul.
I'm pretty sure, even if he is OK, with all the games coming up, he might well be rested as a precaution for the Thistle game on Tuesday, especially with Roberts, Sinclair and maybe Forrest to come back in. None direct replacements for Rogic, but they would allow a reshuffle.
Did you watch Paul hartley wgen he played for us or Hearts? Some folk, a lot in fact, within the game haven't moved on as the game has progressed. Unfortunately for us and Scotland in general a lot of people in important possisions, including referees, are among the number of folk left behind. That is why we struggle to bring through technical players. Guys like Keith Lasley are lauded as being honest pros when in fact they are the very reason Scotland as a country are shampooe at fitba.

O'Dea did the right thing for his club yesterday. Rogic was running the show so he took the opportunity to go in hard for the ball. Yes he did get his studs to the ball first but it was a foul. However I can totally understand those of a Dundee persusion focusing on O'Dea touching the ball first before coming through Tom. It is the way football fans and men operate.
I get your point, Hartley is just standing his corner from a Dundee point of view, he is right to do that, but harping on like it was some serious miscarriage of justice when it was a foul all day long, he needs to check himself. On reflection, I am sure he will realise his reaction was more disappointment at not seeing things through till HT than anything. O' Dea got the ball, but he took everything in doing so.
Lasley, don't get me started, one of the dirtiest players in Scotland over the last few years. I always used to think refs should have saved themselves time and just booked Lasley and Ian Black before game started.
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I disagree. I think Armstrong is starting off deeper but is given licence to get forward and support. Rogic's starting position is far higher up the pitch.


A while ago i'd have wanted Armstrong to deputise for Rogic but now I think I'd rather keep Armstrong near Brown.
Fair enough, but I think he is.

On Tues after 20 mins there was an instruction sent on for Armstrong to drop deeper alongside Brown and Rogic moved from 'inside right' to a central no.10.
Armstrong has started all of his games in central midfield recently. Rogic has consistently played as a number 10 in his games recently.
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I think the shape has changed slightly since Armstrong has come in. It was more of a 4-2-3-1 with Bitton and Brown holding but it's now more of a 4-1-2-3 with Armstrong and Rogic playing ahead of Brown and having both attacking and defensive responsibilities.
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Disagree with Watts and agree with Bandage
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