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Tom Rogic; Signs new 5 year deal. Rejoice rejoice.
Topic Started: 13 Aug 2015, 12:25 AM (526,775 Views)
Bodom Bhoy
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Love the guy.

At one point he got us about 25 yards up the pitch with 3 Fenerbahce players all over him and he never lost control of it even for a split second.

He has to start a run of games, let him play through some poor performances and get his form up consistently.
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Benching him for Johansen is mental at the moment.
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Far superior player to Johansen at this moment in time.
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Need to play him, especially in Europe.

His passing and ball retention are something we badly need at that level.
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He's very slow. If you could combine his talent with the bluebottle energy of Johansen you would have some player.
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Mackin
2 Oct 2015, 10:17 AM
He's very slow. If you could combine his talent with the bluebottle energy of Johansen you would have some player.
Then the manager should change the system to accommodate him, I've been impressed with what I've seen of him lately but I don't think we're getting the best out of him by forcing him into one of the 3 positions behind the striker. Play him a bit deeper and let him have the game in front of him. I don't mean in the two usually occupied by Bitton and Brown either.

The boy can see a pass, precious few of our current squad we can say that about.
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2 Oct 2015, 02:41 PM
Mackin
2 Oct 2015, 10:17 AM
He's very slow. If you could combine his talent with the bluebottle energy of Johansen you would have some player.
Then the manager should change the system to accommodate him, I've been impressed with what I've seen of him lately but I don't think we're getting the best out of him by forcing him into one of the 3 positions behind the striker. Play him a bit deeper and let him have the game in front of him. I don't mean in the two usually occupied by Bitton and Brown either.

The boy can see a pass, precious few of our current squad we can say that about.
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Mackin
2 Oct 2015, 02:59 PM
Joe the Baker
2 Oct 2015, 02:41 PM
Mackin
2 Oct 2015, 10:17 AM
He's very slow. If you could combine his talent with the bluebottle energy of Johansen you would have some player.
Then the manager should change the system to accommodate him, I've been impressed with what I've seen of him lately but I don't think we're getting the best out of him by forcing him into one of the 3 positions behind the striker. Play him a bit deeper and let him have the game in front of him. I don't mean in the two usually occupied by Bitton and Brown either.

The boy can see a pass, precious few of our current squad we can say that about.
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You never know. :(
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He was so out the picture the last 18 months it's almost a minor miracle how things have turned around. He is like a new signing and is playing very well. Keep it up Tom :arrr: :thumbsup:
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anonymous again today although he wasnt alone. he is a player that will always do well when we are at home with plenty of room and time on the ball...as regards away games on dodgy tight pitches when teams are right on top of us then dont think he has the attributes to be of any use to us, slow and cumbersome
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I was thinking the same as the team in general, Padre - Tight pitch, packed defence. I think Rogic can work under those conditions, but that performance the other night was was going at a ridiculous pace - they never once decided to slow the tempo, and build a bit of possession. It was all pinball, the entire game.

If we're going to play at pace, Rogic needs some room to get some time on the ball. If we're going to be sensible about it, make the ball do the work, and try and outclass our opponents, he'll be fine. He has the ball skills, touch, and range of passing to cope on a tight pitch.

He had a very quiet game though, it's true. He still offers more than Johansen at the moment, IMO.
Edited by redbhoy, 5 Oct 2015, 11:41 PM.
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I hope he goes on to prove me wrong but I really don't see what he brings that justifies the recent praise he's been getting.

He's slow and sluggish, holds on to the ball too long and gets caught in possession far too often. I also don't think he creates very much. I'm not really a fan :lol:

When fit i'm hoping Scott Allan will be a better option and will speed up our play in the final third.
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redbhoy
5 Oct 2015, 11:41 PM
I was thinking the same as the team in general, Padre - Tight pitch, packed defence. I think Rogic can work under those conditions, but that performance the other night was was going at a ridiculous pace - they never once decided to slow the tempo, and build a bit of possession. It was all pinball, the entire game.

If we're going to play at pace, Rogic needs some room to get some time on the ball. If we're going to be sensible about it, make the ball do the work, and try and outclass our opponents, he'll be fine. He has the ball skills, touch, and range of passing to cope on a tight pitch.

He had a very quiet game though, it's true. He still offers more than Johansen at the moment, IMO.
As Remy stated a few weeks back, Rogic is probably more suited to the games at home were the game is less frantic and the play is more in front of him as opposed to away games when the ball is never settled for one second. I still don't think he is used to the pace of the game when we are away from home and you could tell in the Aberdeen game that he was caught in possession a few times. Should be ideal for Europe though.
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I don't see why we bought Allan and Christie when we already have Rogic and Henderson
Edited by janice, 12 Oct 2015, 08:20 PM.
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2 Oct 2015, 06:39 PM
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janice
12 Oct 2015, 08:19 PM
I don't see why we bought Allan and Christie when we already have Rogic and Henderson
You don't think we need more than two midfielders? Eventually Brown will slow down, and we'll likely sell Bitton for £££££, and Johansen will probably stay in his huff, so the four you mention could , along with Stuart Armstrong, be the mainstays of our midfield for the next few years.
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12 Oct 2015, 08:30 PM
janice
12 Oct 2015, 08:19 PM
I don't see why we bought Allan and Christie when we already have Rogic and Henderson
You don't think we need more than two midfielders? Eventually Brown will slow down, and we'll likely sell Bitton for £££££, and Johansen will probably stay in his huff, so the four you mention could , along with Stuart Armstrong, be the mainstays of our midfield for the next few years.
Johansens "back injury"
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So you now see Rogic and Henderson as Brown and Biton and not number 10?
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Maybe deserving of a starting place over Johansen now? Always positive, doesn't sulk and tries to get involved even when it isn't going well for him. Even tempered. The opposite of Johansen this minute. Also, plays the game with a smile on his face instead of a sneer.

Incidentally, I also accept that Efe plays with a smile on his face.
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