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Dedryk Boyata; in Belgium squad for WC. no longer a provo.
Topic Started: 15 May 2015, 04:15 PM (461,504 Views)
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Bawman
23 Jun 2018, 08:10 PM
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23 Jun 2018, 07:59 PM

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You said you would 'expect him to attack the ball', no?

My last post is pointing out this wouldn't be possible without giving away a penalty. :thumbsup:
With all due respect...BS

For a guy with his height and presence I'd expect him to be more of a presence than that showing. Im saying this as someone who likes Boyata and wants him to stay at Celtic.

That cross is right down the throat of your CBs and while it's hard to defend, you're expecting that header to be competed for a bit more vigorously instead of getting brushed aside by someone.

Its done now, the game is won, he looked ok. We're not in much danger of losing him to a big league on that showing thankfully.
Regardless of 'height' and 'presence' if his starting position is 4/5 yard behind where the ball ends up how can you expect him to 'compete' for a header :lol: Please go back and watch the goal you'll see what I'm talking about, as I've already mentioned he got across well and very nearly made a block.
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He gave the ball away twice and could have been positioned better to attack that ball for Tunisia's first goal. Other than that he put in a great tackle at one point. So far, so Boyata.
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I’ve gave up trying to make my mind up on this guy. Don’t think we can afford to lose him at the moment
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Sheesh.

I wonder what would be said about Dedryck if he played like Boateng did today.
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TimsdaleBhoy
23 Jun 2018, 09:50 PM
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23 Jun 2018, 08:03 PM

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With all due respect...BS

For a guy with his height and presence I'd expect him to be more of a presence than that showing. Im saying this as someone who likes Boyata and wants him to stay at Celtic.

That cross is right down the throat of your CBs and while it's hard to defend, you're expecting that header to be competed for a bit more vigorously instead of getting brushed aside by someone.

Its done now, the game is won, he looked ok. We're not in much danger of losing him to a big league on that showing thankfully.
Regardless of 'height' and 'presence' if his starting position is 4/5 yard behind where the ball ends up how can you expect him to 'compete' for a header :lol: Please go back and watch the goal you'll see what I'm talking about, as I've already mentioned he got across well and very nearly made a block.
Watched it before. Watched it again four times a few minutes ago. Headed fresh air. Your comments about "giving away a penalty" are...funny.

His man ran off him, he hesitated and the guy got a yard or two on him, he took a step to watch the ball and then managed to make up some of the space he'd lost before coming around the back of the bunch.

The goal wasn't his fault, that's not even close to the point im making but the guy he was supposed to be picking up got much closer to that cross than he did.

Like I've been saying all along, that's right down the throat of the CBs and while it's a tough cross to defend, if it's not him you'd expect to challenge that, then who? If that's what you'd call a challenge then that's probably the crux of the matter here.

I thought he had an ok game overall and, like I said he probably did our chances of re-signing him no harm at all.

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I think he was seriously let down by his defensive partners for both goals today. Particularly for the first where he had to try and pick up someone else’s man. I’m actually impressed he realised his teammate had effed up and tried to remedy the situation, albeit a bit late.
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23 Jun 2018, 10:26 PM
I think he was seriously let down by his defensive partners for both goals today. Particularly for the first where he had to try and pick up someone else’s man. I’m actually impressed he realised his teammate had effed up and tried to remedy the situation, albeit a bit late.
To some extent but it's ridiculous to think that the manager isn't sitting down with his players after that game and asking what they could have done better to stop a goal from a set piece even with their eventual margin of victory. He's not telling them they did well in that scenario. He's pointing to all the little things they need to do to tighten up and limit opportunities for the opoosition.

I don't for one minute think he's telling Boyata "aye good effort big man, whit can ye do eh?" :lol:
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I think he was seriously let down by his defensive partners for both goals today. Particularly for the first where he had to try and pick up someone else’s man. I’m actually impressed he realised his teammate had effed up and tried to remedy the situation, albeit a bit late.
To some extent but it's ridiculous to think that the manager isn't sitting down with his players after that game and asking what they could have done better to stop a goal from a set piece even with their eventual margin of victory. He's not telling them they did well in that scenario. He's pointing to all the little things they need to do to tighten up and limit opportunities for the opoosition.

I don't for one minute think he's telling Boyata "aye good effort big man, whit can ye do eh?" :lol:
Alderweireld got caught on his heels, Meunier didn't follow his man (which is the main fault imo) and the ball did was not in Boyatas zone - the only possible issue I have with him in that goal is that if him and Vertonghen had stepped up rather than following the runners, they may have been able to play offside. In no way, shape or form is the fault for that goal lying at Boyatas door. Could he have done better? Yes. But so could the entire defensive unit.
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23 Jun 2018, 10:26 PM
I think he was seriously let down by his defensive partners for both goals today. Particularly for the first where he had to try and pick up someone else’s man. I’m actually impressed he realised his teammate had effed up and tried to remedy the situation, albeit a bit late.
To some extent but it's ridiculous to think that the manager isn't sitting down with his players after that game and asking what they could have done better to stop a goal from a set piece even with their eventual margin of victory. He's not telling them they did well in that scenario. He's pointing to all the little things they need to do to tighten up and limit opportunities for the opoosition.

I don't for one minute think he's telling Boyata "aye good effort big man, whit can ye do eh?" :lol:
Alderweireld got caught on his heels, Meunier didn't follow his man (which is the main fault imo) and the ball did was not in Boyatas zone - the only possible issue I have with him in that goal is that if him and Vertonghen had stepped up rather than following the runners, they may have been able to play offside. In no way, shape or form is the fault for that goal lying at Boyatas door. Could he have done better? Yes. But so could the entire defensive unit.
I think you're getting closer to this than any of us so far. It seems they were more interested in the runners than the ball. Like I said, I'm of course casting a critical eye over this but that's the point of a Forum IMO. I would guess the Belgian coaches will do the same. They lost a goal from a set piece and didn't look to clever doing so.
Future opposition will look to exploit whatever seams of weakness they can and that driven cross at runners caused a fair bit of confusion back there. Particularly if the team they are facing has some height.

Kompany changes their back-line considerably as he loves to attack the ball in there.



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I think he was seriously let down by his defensive partners for both goals today. Particularly for the first where he had to try and pick up someone else’s man. I’m actually impressed he realised his teammate had effed up and tried to remedy the situation, albeit a bit late.
To some extent but it's ridiculous to think that the manager isn't sitting down with his players after that game and asking what they could have done better to stop a goal from a set piece even with their eventual margin of victory. He's not telling them they did well in that scenario. He's pointing to all the little things they need to do to tighten up and limit opportunities for the opoosition.

I don't for one minute think he's telling Boyata "aye good effort big man, whit can ye do eh?" :lol:
Doubt he'll be giving it 'it's all your fault Boyata ya big bombscare bastard' either though mate
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23 Jun 2018, 10:26 PM
I think he was seriously let down by his defensive partners for both goals today. Particularly for the first where he had to try and pick up someone else’s man. I’m actually impressed he realised his teammate had effed up and tried to remedy the situation, albeit a bit late.
To some extent but it's ridiculous to think that the manager isn't sitting down with his players after that game and asking what they could have done better to stop a goal from a set piece even with their eventual margin of victory. He's not telling them they did well in that scenario. He's pointing to all the little things they need to do to tighten up and limit opportunities for the opoosition.

I don't for one minute think he's telling Boyata "aye good effort big man, whit can ye do eh?" :lol:
Doubt he'll be giving it 'it's all your fault Boyata ya big bombscare bastard' either though mate
I haven't seen anyone say that on here either though. Quite the opposite in fact.
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The TV analysis was quite clear in pointing out that Boyata and Alderweireld moved too early, giving the attackers too much room. It's things like that which expose Boyata's relative lack of experience. And I get bawman's point that he should be ready/able to impose himself more physically on the opposition.
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First up glad the guy has fulfilled his dream to represent his country at the world cup (despite the fact if Kompany and/or Vermaelen were match fit they would have started) and i know they have qualified now so will be amazed if he gets a place in their last 16 game or thereafter unless suspension or injury rule out the others.

But enough of the international bollocks i am more interested in the hoops - sorry to be harsh but anyone with decent eye sight can see he is Ambrosequese in as much as we want him to succeed and he can do around 95% of things correctly but he has that 5% feck up as soon as he has time to think what he wants to do - there are may examples of this but the one that springs to mind is the zoo last year when he made an absolute James Hunt of himself to allow that brain dead Windass to give the zombies a fleeting moment of hope.

Thankfully his team mate covered his embarrassment on that day.

Bottom line is as we go into the business end of these rounds of qualification for the champs league i don't want to have my heart in my mouth in case there is no recovery time for any arse up he makes which could cost the club millions and impact our future recruitment policy.

if the rumours are true and some club is willing to pay £6-7 million then bite their hand off.

Surely even the Efe diehards who tried to defend him through his many feck ups can now see no matter how much he is a nice guy he is still an accident waiting to happen and will ultimately cost us in a very important game.

Take the money and run please.





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Boyata could’ve scored five goals yesterday & people would still accentuate the negatives.

Fact is the guy has played well in these two opening matches.

Belgium are a country blessed with talent.

Boyata is in on merit.

Brendan & Roberto probably know more than any of us.
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Thought he looked better than his more experienced colleagues yesterday.
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I would love for the people who want shot of Dedryk to come up with some affordable replacements. I tend to watch tournaments like the WC with an eye on the positions we might need to strengthen, so far I can't see anyone who we could go for.

Dedryk is a good player, our best Centre Back, who has his flaws. Finding better aint that simple.

Even big Virgil was prone to some massive howlers in his time.

IMO, selling him would be a big, big mistake.
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I don't think £7 million is nearly enough, it would cost a fair bit of coin to replace him with a first team starter.
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24 Jun 2018, 09:06 AM
I don't think £7 million is nearly enough, it would cost a fair bit of coin to replace him with a first team starter.
Depends where you are shopping.

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24 Jun 2018, 08:59 AM
I would love for the people who want shot of Dedryk to come up with some affordable replacements. I tend to watch tournaments like the WC with an eye on the positions we might need to strengthen, so far I can't see anyone who we could go for.

Dedryk is a good player, our best Centre Back, who has his flaws. Finding better aint that simple.

Even big Virgil was prone to some massive howlers in his time.

IMO, selling him would be a big, big mistake.
Hopefully our scouting reaches beyond the telly
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I would love for the people who want shot of Dedryk to come up with some affordable replacements. I tend to watch tournaments like the WC with an eye on the positions we might need to strengthen, so far I can't see anyone who we could go for.

Dedryk is a good player, our best Centre Back, who has his flaws. Finding better aint that simple.

Even big Virgil was prone to some massive howlers in his time.

IMO, selling him would be a big, big mistake.
Hopefully our scouting reaches beyond the telly
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If someone on kds can't name a better player, who we can afford, then it means they don't exist.
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