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Dedryk Boyata; in Belgium squad for WC. no longer a provo.
Topic Started: 15 May 2015, 04:15 PM (461,565 Views)
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30 Dec 2017, 05:50 PM
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30 Dec 2017, 05:38 PM
I’ve gave him pelters recently but he was alright today. Shame Lustig took over the role of the player who can’t play a ten yard pass.
Alright? :lol:
Yeah not bad mate. You?
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30 Dec 2017, 05:21 PM
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30 Dec 2017, 04:43 PM
A lot of people made their minds up about Boyata a long time ago and simply refuse to budge, no matter what happens.
It's because of what's been happening-the constant mistakes, giving the ball away in lethal areas- that people are not changing their opinion of him.
Let's have some examples of that today please?
In addition to the positional errors highlighted elsewhere, he sent a defensive header straight to the feet of Kranjcar. It was the sort of header you see in a schoolboy match. He's got at least one clanger a game in him.
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30 Dec 2017, 05:50 PM
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30 Dec 2017, 04:34 PM

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I am sitting in my girlfriends house. Trust me I am sober. You are just making stuff up.
Off the top of my head...

Tavernier has the ball - boyata is tight on morelos at the penalty spot. Notices a runner and inexplicably leaves morelos to go towards the runner. The cross immediately comes in and morelos is unmarked and misses a sitter.

First half, dives in on one of their players getting nowhere near him. Skips past and only a poor pass prevents a one on one with gordon.

Morelos is at Ajers back. 2 v 1 to us - Ajer clearly leaves him to Boyata/Boyata knows he needs to cover. Boyata stops in his tracks and morelos misses another sitter.
So...

I think for both Morelos chances Ajer loses his man.

As for the diving in. Show me a defender who isn't guilty of diving in at least once or twice in a game.

You forget to mention how good Boyata's distribution was. His tackling. His strength in the air. The havoc he caused in their box at set plays.

Now most people have made up their minds on Boyata. His great performance away in Brussels was down to how pish the opposition was. He has had a handful of good games others have said :lol:

I think he is a very good defender for us at SPFL level and he has also played well in a few of the European games.I would argue that he has been excellent anyway time we have played Sevco (minus Delia's game v them).

Could we get a better cb who suits Brendan's team? Perhaps. My issue is with those who are quick to stick the boot in but then start making stuff up to suit their agenda if Boyata plays well as they are unwilling to give him any credit.

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30 Dec 2017, 05:54 PM
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30 Dec 2017, 05:38 PM
I’ve gave him pelters recently but he was alright today. Shame Lustig took over the role of the player who can’t play a ten yard pass.
Alright? :lol:
Yeah not bad mate. You?
:lol:

I am good, mate. Cheers :lol:
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allthewine
30 Dec 2017, 06:07 PM
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30 Dec 2017, 05:12 PM

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Off the top of my head...

Tavernier has the ball - boyata is tight on morelos at the penalty spot. Notices a runner and inexplicably leaves morelos to go towards the runner. The cross immediately comes in and morelos is unmarked and misses a sitter.

First half, dives in on one of their players getting nowhere near him. Skips past and only a poor pass prevents a one on one with gordon.

Morelos is at Ajers back. 2 v 1 to us - Ajer clearly leaves him to Boyata/Boyata knows he needs to cover. Boyata stops in his tracks and morelos misses another sitter.
So...

I think for both Morelos chances Ajer loses his man.

As for the diving in. Show me a defender who isn't guilty of diving in at least once or twice in a game.

You forget to mention how good Boyata's distribution was. His tackling. His strength in the air. The havoc he caused in their box at set plays.

Now most people have made up their minds on Boyata. His great performance away in Brussels was down to how pish the opposition was. He has had a handful of good games others have said :lol:

I think he is a very good defender for us at SPFL level and he has also played well in a few of the European games.I would argue that he has been excellent anyway time we have played Sevco (minus Delia's game v them).

Could we get a better cb who suits Brendan's team? Perhaps. My issue is with those who are quick to stick the boot in but then start making stuff up to suit their agenda if Boyata plays well as they are unwilling to give him any credit.

I heard and made all the same arguments/excuses for efe.

I have no idea how you can say that Morelos was ajers man. Agree to disagree.
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Boyata did OK today, as others have said Lustig took over the role of the defender who could barely find any of his own players with a pass.
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30 Dec 2017, 06:22 PM
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30 Dec 2017, 06:07 PM
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30 Dec 2017, 05:50 PM

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So...

I think for both Morelos chances Ajer loses his man.

As for the diving in. Show me a defender who isn't guilty of diving in at least once or twice in a game.

You forget to mention how good Boyata's distribution was. His tackling. His strength in the air. The havoc he caused in their box at set plays.

Now most people have made up their minds on Boyata. His great performance away in Brussels was down to how pish the opposition was. He has had a handful of good games others have said :lol:

I think he is a very good defender for us at SPFL level and he has also played well in a few of the European games.I would argue that he has been excellent anyway time we have played Sevco (minus Delia's game v them).

Could we get a better cb who suits Brendan's team? Perhaps. My issue is with those who are quick to stick the boot in but then start making stuff up to suit their agenda if Boyata plays well as they are unwilling to give him any credit.

I heard and made all the same arguments/excuses for efe.

I have no idea how you can say that Morelos was ajers man. Agree to disagree.
Spot on. It was exactly the same story with Ambrose. We were supposed to applaud his one solid game in 3 or 4 and ignore the comical, embarrassing mistakes in practically every other game. If Boyata was 21 you'd cut him some slack, but he's 27.
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30 Dec 2017, 06:22 PM
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30 Dec 2017, 06:07 PM
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30 Dec 2017, 05:50 PM

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So...

I think for both Morelos chances Ajer loses his man.

As for the diving in. Show me a defender who isn't guilty of diving in at least once or twice in a game.

You forget to mention how good Boyata's distribution was. His tackling. His strength in the air. The havoc he caused in their box at set plays.

Now most people have made up their minds on Boyata. His great performance away in Brussels was down to how pish the opposition was. He has had a handful of good games others have said :lol:

I think he is a very good defender for us at SPFL level and he has also played well in a few of the European games.I would argue that he has been excellent anyway time we have played Sevco (minus Delia's game v them).

Could we get a better cb who suits Brendan's team? Perhaps. My issue is with those who are quick to stick the boot in but then start making stuff up to suit their agenda if Boyata plays well as they are unwilling to give him any credit.

I heard and made all the same arguments/excuses for efe.

I have no idea how you can say that Morelos was ajers man. Agree to disagree.
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Agree.
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Had one of his better games today, but that is damning with faint praise... he still gives me the fear.
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Passes to Lustig then moves forward to expect a pass that would be dodgy enough from a MF never mind a DF. 2 excellent tackles but he isn't good enough for the way we play.
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30 Dec 2017, 04:35 PM
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30 Dec 2017, 03:48 PM

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Watch it when you are sober :thumbsup:

Boyata badly at fault for both morelos chances. Brutal defending.
Mixed bag really - his positioning was slack at times and in possession he gave the ball away cheaply a couple of times.

On the other hand i remember him making some good challenges and supplying the odd decent ball forward.
Played an excellent through ball late on (I think) to pick out Lustig who'd made a good run in behind their defence. Can't really decide whether he had a particularly good or bad game otherwise, would have to watch it back and eff that.
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Although it was a lousy performance from Celtic, don't forget it was also a clean sheet, our fourth in a row, so maybe our defence is the wrong target for our frustration.
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31 Dec 2017, 09:13 PM
Although it was a lousy performance from Celtic, don't forget it was also a clean sheet, our fourth in a row, so maybe our defence is the wrong target for our frustration.
The defence is the basis of our attack - if it isn't doing that, it's meaning the rest of the team are having to do more defending. Calm passing around diddies would make their life a hell of a lot easier. We were two bits of reflex goalkeeping away from a loss yesterday remember.
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31 Dec 2017, 09:13 PM
Although it was a lousy performance from Celtic, don't forget it was also a clean sheet, our fourth in a row, so maybe our defence is the wrong target for our frustration.
I dunno, you know; the huns let us off big time in the second half with Morelos' woeful finishing and Gordon's world-class reaction saves.

Boyata for me is nowhere near the level of bombscare that Efe was. I'm not basing that off careful defensive analysis, he just doesn't make my heart sink past my knees when he's on the ball like Efe used to. Not the best, but could be worse. At the moment we have a central defence full of players who should be the junior partner to a more experienced type like Toure (fit and on form), or hopefully Compper. Just someone who can marshal them and help them learn on the pitch.

Boyata might be 27, but his first team appearances are less than some 21 year olds thanks to stagnating at City for so long.
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30 Dec 2017, 10:42 PM
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Mixed bag really - his positioning was slack at times and in possession he gave the ball away cheaply a couple of times.

On the other hand i remember him making some good challenges and supplying the odd decent ball forward.
Played an excellent through ball late on (I think) to pick out Lustig who'd made a good run in behind their defence. Can't really decide whether he had a particularly good or bad game otherwise, would have to watch it back and eff that.
I can't remember if it was to Lustig, though I seem to remember it reaching a teammate on the left touchline, but he played a cracker of a forward pass that I should give him credit for, given my recent criticism of him. OK, a cracker by his standards, but it was a forward pass that helped us get up the pitch and put Rangers on the back foot :chuffed: :lol:
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Perfect example of one of his 'completed passes' in the first 10 seconds of highlights, puts Lustig in trouble, hides so can't get it back.

Also anyone that thinks Morelos various chances weren't down to him, ask what you want your CH to be doing when the opposition CF is 8 yards out dead centre of goal. I'd quite like him to be stopping those chances.
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30 Dec 2017, 05:38 PM
I’ve gave him pelters recently but he was alright today. Shame Lustig took over the role of the player who can’t play a ten yard pass.
Both full backs left our cbs exposed and with to much to do.
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I never noticed him because Lustig was so bad. Its a meh from me he was neither great nor bad.
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30 Dec 2017, 05:38 PM
I’ve gave him pelters recently but he was alright today. Shame Lustig took over the role of the player who can’t play a ten yard pass.
Both full backs left our cbs exposed and with to much to do.
KT had two players on him thanks to Sinclair
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I’ve gave him pelters recently but he was alright today. Shame Lustig took over the role of the player who can’t play a ten yard pass.
Both full backs left our cbs exposed and with to much to do.
KT had two players on him thanks to Sinclair
That's true, but even allowing for that, Tierney was dreadful. One of his,worst games for us. Looked dead on his feet second half.
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