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Dedryk Boyata; in Belgium squad for WC. no longer a provo.
Topic Started: 15 May 2015, 04:15 PM (461,620 Views)
Jack Thaler
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LambertandButler
20 Mar 2017, 10:04 PM
He was poor on Sunday, but so was the team as a whole.

However, I'm never sure if it's really possible to improve or train a player so that they don't just lose concentration from time to time. That, to me, seems like a character or personality trait.

I'm with the poster above - if there is a ball played up in the 90th minute of the playoff round, then I wouldn't have 100% confidence that he'd defend it properly. And that's no good for a center-half.
He was fine on Sunday.
Won nearly everything in the air.
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Jack Thaler
21 Mar 2017, 02:44 PM
LambertandButler
20 Mar 2017, 10:04 PM
He was poor on Sunday, but so was the team as a whole.

However, I'm never sure if it's really possible to improve or train a player so that they don't just lose concentration from time to time. That, to me, seems like a character or personality trait.

I'm with the poster above - if there is a ball played up in the 90th minute of the playoff round, then I wouldn't have 100% confidence that he'd defend it properly. And that's no good for a center-half.
He was fine on Sunday.
Won nearly everything in the air.
Breenged in at the goal though. Should learn from that. Dive in, you need to get something.
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remy mcswain
21 Mar 2017, 03:02 PM
Jack Thaler
21 Mar 2017, 02:44 PM
LambertandButler
20 Mar 2017, 10:04 PM
He was poor on Sunday, but so was the team as a whole.

However, I'm never sure if it's really possible to improve or train a player so that they don't just lose concentration from time to time. That, to me, seems like a character or personality trait.

I'm with the poster above - if there is a ball played up in the 90th minute of the playoff round, then I wouldn't have 100% confidence that he'd defend it properly. And that's no good for a center-half.
He was fine on Sunday.
Won nearly everything in the air.
Breenged in at the goal though. Should learn from that. Dive in, you need to get something.
No doubt about that- said it earlier in the thread
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MartyBhoyCfc
21 Mar 2017, 01:58 PM
Properly shocked hes in Belgium squad. Hes an average player at very best.
Away you go. He's cropping up on the most improved player thread and has been ever present for us over the past 3 months. Belgium aren't exactly swimming in CB options and he's probably conceded the least amount of goals of any of their options.

Besides, it's a good chance to see if he can mirror his play at a higher level as many on here have been crying out for.
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MartyBhoyCfc
21 Mar 2017, 01:58 PM
Properly shocked hes in Belgium squad. Hes an average player at very best.
Away you go. He's cropping up on the most improved player thread and has been ever present for us over the past 3 months. Belgium aren't exactly swimming in CB options and he's probably conceded the least amount of goals of any of their options.

Besides, it's a good chance to see if he can mirror his play at a higher level as many on here have been crying out for.
Correct, he's strong, fast, good in the air, a goal threat at set pieces, fairly comfortable with the ball at his feet. If we were linked with him in the next transfer window we would be creaming ourselves.
Be very interesting to see if he gets much game time with Belgium.
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I just can't warm to the guy. I know it's probably irrational but I don't see the player others do at this point. It's true there has been a remarkable improvement and his glaring, ridiculous errors seem to have been cut out for the most part. But I still think Erik and Simunovic is our best partnership and if we were/are to sell any of the three I hope it's Boyata.
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murphio
22 Mar 2017, 10:12 AM
I just can't warm to the guy. I know it's probably irrational but I don't see the player others do at this point. It's true there has been a remarkable improvement and his glaring, ridiculous errors seem to have been cut out for the most part. But I still think Erik and Simunovic is our best partnership and if we were/are to sell any of the three I hope it's Boyata.
I'd be curious to know what instructions he's under from Rodgers. I do still feel that he has the same blunders in him but he's masking them somehow for now so if push comes to shove I'd replace him as well. In an ideal world I think that Erik would be backup too just given his lack of pace and not being brilliant in the air but he's more than good enough domestically and might be too good to be warming our bench.
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A mistake at the weekend, but it can be forgiven with his recent form. Think we need to stop thinking of Ronny Deila's Boyata, and give him his due, he has looked very comfortable most games and deserved 1st pick at the moment.
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22 Mar 2017, 10:36 AM
murphio
22 Mar 2017, 10:12 AM
I just can't warm to the guy. I know it's probably irrational but I don't see the player others do at this point. It's true there has been a remarkable improvement and his glaring, ridiculous errors seem to have been cut out for the most part. But I still think Erik and Simunovic is our best partnership and if we were/are to sell any of the three I hope it's Boyata.
I'd be curious to know what instructions he's under from Rodgers. I do still feel that he has the same blunders in him but he's masking them somehow for now so if push comes to shove I'd replace him as well. In an ideal world I think that Erik would be backup too just given his lack of pace and not being brilliant in the air but he's more than good enough domestically and might be too good to be warming our bench.
His performances against Huns prove he's not more than good enough domestically. He's been found out it seems.
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22 Mar 2017, 10:36 AM
murphio
22 Mar 2017, 10:12 AM
I just can't warm to the guy. I know it's probably irrational but I don't see the player others do at this point. It's true there has been a remarkable improvement and his glaring, ridiculous errors seem to have been cut out for the most part. But I still think Erik and Simunovic is our best partnership and if we were/are to sell any of the three I hope it's Boyata.
I'd be curious to know what instructions he's under from Rodgers. I do still feel that he has the same blunders in him but he's masking them somehow for now so if push comes to shove I'd replace him as well. In an ideal world I think that Erik would be backup too just given his lack of pace and not being brilliant in the air but he's more than good enough domestically and might be too good to be warming our bench.
His performances against Huns prove he's not more than good enough domestically. He's been found out it seems.
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22 Mar 2017, 11:01 AM
stevie21
22 Mar 2017, 10:36 AM
murphio
22 Mar 2017, 10:12 AM
I just can't warm to the guy. I know it's probably irrational but I don't see the player others do at this point. It's true there has been a remarkable improvement and his glaring, ridiculous errors seem to have been cut out for the most part. But I still think Erik and Simunovic is our best partnership and if we were/are to sell any of the three I hope it's Boyata.
I'd be curious to know what instructions he's under from Rodgers. I do still feel that he has the same blunders in him but he's masking them somehow for now so if push comes to shove I'd replace him as well. In an ideal world I think that Erik would be backup too just given his lack of pace and not being brilliant in the air but he's more than good enough domestically and might be too good to be warming our bench.
His performances against Huns prove he's not more than good enough domestically. He's been found out it seems.
He's played against the huns 5 times, had 3 very good games and 2 poor ones. Even at Ibrox when he had a stinker in the first half he may have saved a goal in the second with his sliding challenge on Forrester. He wasn't the only one to have a poor game against them a couple of weeks ago. Dembele, Sinclair, Tierney? Have they all been "found out" to? Erik has proven himself and I believe will come good again.
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I think Erik struggles against big physical strikers, and particularly those who are strong in the air. That's a problem if your playing in Scotland.
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22 Mar 2017, 11:19 AM
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22 Mar 2017, 10:36 AM

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His performances against Huns prove he's not more than good enough domestically. He's been found out it seems.
He's played against the huns 5 times, had 3 very good games and 2 poor ones. Even at Ibrox when he had a stinker in the first half he may have saved a goal in the second with his sliding challenge on Forrester. He wasn't the only one to have a poor game against them a couple of weeks ago. Dembele, Sinclair, Tierney? Have they all been "found out" to? Erik has proven himself and I believe will come good again.
I mean more in terms of his ability to deal with pressure. Seemed really nervy in the last two meetings with them. In a way that the others didn't. I want Celtic to be ruthless. We've become too used to giving players chances because they're okay; I want quality in so that we can give this Champions League thing a real feckin go. If how do you get to the last 16 or last 8 of the Champions League is the question, Erik isn't the answer.
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22 Mar 2017, 02:54 AM
MartyBhoyCfc
21 Mar 2017, 01:58 PM
Properly shocked hes in Belgium squad. Hes an average player at very best.
Away you go. He's cropping up on the most improved player thread and has been ever present for us over the past 3 months. Belgium aren't exactly swimming in CB options and he's probably conceded the least amount of goals of any of their options.

Besides, it's a good chance to see if he can mirror his play at a higher level as many on here have been crying out for.
Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Vermaelen, Lombaerts, Lukaku, Denayer all fit. Hardly a "lack of options".

Fair play to him making it into the squad with those options available but it is a surprise.
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LoveCeltic
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MartyBhoyCfc
21 Mar 2017, 01:58 PM
Properly shocked hes in Belgium squad. Hes an average player at very best.
Away you go. He's cropping up on the most improved player thread and has been ever present for us over the past 3 months. Belgium aren't exactly swimming in CB options and he's probably conceded the least amount of goals of any of their options.

Besides, it's a good chance to see if he can mirror his play at a higher level as many on here have been crying out for.
Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Vermaelen, Lombaerts, Lukaku, Denayer all fit. Hardly a "lack of options".

Fair play to him making it into the squad with those options available but it is a surprise.
I don't see how it's a surprise. He was in the Belgium squad last season and he has improved.
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Boyata isn't even close to being the biggest surprise in that squad with Ciaman included :lol:
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He's played against the huns 5 times, had 3 very good games and 2 poor ones. Even at Ibrox when he had a stinker in the first half he may have saved a goal in the second with his sliding challenge on Forrester. He wasn't the only one to have a poor game against them a couple of weeks ago. Dembele, Sinclair, Tierney? Have they all been "found out" to? Erik has proven himself and I believe will come good again.
I mean more in terms of his ability to deal with pressure. Seemed really nervy in the last two meetings with them. In a way that the others didn't. I want Celtic to be ruthless. We've become too used to giving players chances because they're okay; I want quality in so that we can give this Champions League thing a real feckin go. If how do you get to the last 16 or last 8 of the Champions League is the question, Erik isn't the answer.
I'm with you on wanting to give the Champions League a proper go! I think Erik has proved he has the ability to deal with pressure, he's simply off form. If anything I would say it's Boyata who hasn't. I wouldn't trust Boyata to do what Erik did in Isreal for example.

If we want to get as far in the Champions League that you've noted then we need quality all over the park, perhaps Dembele Sinclair and Brown are the only 3 players who needn't worry. I would be more content going into a CL game with Erik playing than Boyata, which is only my opinion of course.
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22 Mar 2017, 10:38 AM
A mistake at the weekend, but it can be forgiven with his recent form. Think we need to stop thinking of Ronny Deila's Boyata, and give him his due, he has looked very comfortable most games and deserved 1st pick at the moment.
That's the thing, he's made two bad errors in a row where one led to a goal, and the other would've been a goal had it fell to Miller, and that's exactly the type of player he was under Deila (add in his recent own goal and bad positioning against St Mirren). In the semi final he'll do something similar.

The defense looked most secure this season under Erik & Jozo who'd built up a good partnership in CL games and a cup final/semi final, and thus should be first choice. Boyata is still the same player from last season, and will cost us in big games.
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remy mcswain
21 Mar 2017, 03:02 PM
Jack Thaler
21 Mar 2017, 02:44 PM
LambertandButler
20 Mar 2017, 10:04 PM
He was poor on Sunday, but so was the team as a whole.

However, I'm never sure if it's really possible to improve or train a player so that they don't just lose concentration from time to time. That, to me, seems like a character or personality trait.

I'm with the poster above - if there is a ball played up in the 90th minute of the playoff round, then I wouldn't have 100% confidence that he'd defend it properly. And that's no good for a center-half.
He was fine on Sunday.
Won nearly everything in the air.
Breenged in at the goal though. Should learn from that. Dive in, you need to get something.
What the hell kind of scotchery is this? :rubeyes:
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Breenged in at the goal though. Should learn from that. Dive in, you need to get something.
No doubt about that- said it earlier in the thread
If a defender makes a mistake that allows the other team to score, they've not played well in that game.
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