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Dedryk Boyata; in Belgium squad for WC. no longer a provo.
Topic Started: 15 May 2015, 04:15 PM (461,629 Views)
Haitch
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He's a good defender and very good at attacking set pieces. Distribution lets him down, wouldn't surprise me if other teams do what St Mirren did yesterday and give him unlimited time with the ball. I don't rate him as much as others but "punt in the summer" is taking it too far he's proven he's at least worthy of being a Celtic player and to be fair to him that looked very improbable not too long ago.
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Someone mentioned (Sportscene I think?) that St Mirren were allowing Boyata to keep the ball and,
when he had possession, tightening up on everyone else thus giving him no out ball.
He would invariably carry the ball forward at which point he would be put under pressure leaving a big
Boyata spaced hole ready to be exploited.

I wasn't at the game caller but it seems to have been less the fault of Boyata and more a very good
game plan by St Mirren which Brendan obviously addressed at half time.
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Haitch
6 Mar 2017, 10:41 PM
wouldn't surprise me if other teams do what St Mirren did yesterday and give him unlimited time with the ball.
Malmo started it.
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6 Mar 2017, 10:50 PM
Someone mentioned (Sportscene I think?) that St Mirren were allowing Boyata to keep the ball and,
when he had possession, tightening up on everyone else thus giving him no out ball.
He would invariably carry the ball forward at which point he would be put under pressure leaving a big
Boyata spaced hole ready to be exploited.

I wasn't at the game caller but it seems to have been less the fault of Boyata and more a very good
game plan by St Mirren which Brendan obviously addressed at half time.
Probably why we went to a back 3 in the 2nd half with Brown almost playing sweeper and carrying the ball forward
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I like the general assumption from the media that this lack of press by St. Mirren on Boyata could be capatilised on by der Hun. I'm pretty sure that BR will have noticed it caused us issues at the game and also on rewatching the game. It'll be used as a teaching point and I'm sure an alternative will be devised between now and Sunday and worked on in training. The management team won't be caught out by anything Murty's Manky Mob can throw at us IMO.
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6 Mar 2017, 01:02 PM

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The completion rate isn't that surprising though. More often than not he ended up playing it to his centre back partner or square to someone else and it allowed the opposing team time to get back into shape and nullify any potential space being created. It was one of the worst features of Deila's team last year.

Despite the 93% completion rate, you have the examples of him crucially giving it away cheaply in games like Molde away or Inverness at home (twice in a short period) and costing us goals.
I still blame Deila and Bitton for that Molde goal.
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6 Mar 2017, 02:22 PM
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6 Mar 2017, 01:52 PM
He was taking too long to release the ball yesterday.
only because he had no options whatsoever to pass to.

sviatchenko getting ragdolled by sutton yesterday was the bigger problem
Sviatchenko doesn't receive half the criticism Boyata does. Odd.
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Sunday will be the big test for Boyata, after that debacle last season. He was a rabbit caught in the headlights and ran ragged by the poly bag, before going off 'injured'.

It'll be interesting to see who BR goes with. Personally, I'd go with Jozo and Sviatchenko every day of the week.
He was injured- he did his hamstring, a problem he aggravated again two months later, forcing him to miss the Euros.

The manager likes him.
I think many have never forgiven him for 'fecking up' against the Huns, which is nonsense. Unfairly targeted for that loss, when the entire team -and Deila -were to blame.

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He was injured- he did his hamstring, a problem he aggravated again two months later, forcing him to miss the Euros.

The manager likes him.
I think many have never forgiven him for 'fecking up' against the Huns, which is nonsense. Unfairly targeted for that loss, when the entire team -and Deila -were to blame.

Don't blame him for the loss but didn't he get subbed very early on as he couldn't hack it?

Edit: He did, 25 minutes in.
Edited by Withnail, 7 Mar 2017, 12:12 AM.
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I think many have never forgiven him for 'fecking up' against the Huns, which is nonsense. Unfairly targeted for that loss, when the entire team -and Deila -were to blame.

Don't blame him for the loss but didn't he get subbed very early on as he couldn't hack it?

Edit: He did, 25 minutes in.
Hamstring injury that eventually forced him to miss the Euros, and the first two months of this season.

But probably just faking it to get subbed.
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Don't blame him for the loss but didn't he get subbed very early on as he couldn't hack it?

Edit: He did, 25 minutes in.
Hamstring injury that eventually forced him to miss the Euros, and the first two months of this season.

But probably just faking it to get subbed.
Fair enough. He's a smashing player who we're lucky to have.
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Poor first half on Sunday but played much better in the second. And who didn't have a poor first half? I'd also argue that he's no worse than Jozo or Erik on the ball most of the time to be honest. He's the one out of those 3 who I trust the most when they decide to try and dribble their way out of trouble - he does well at that. His passing isn't always great but he often tries to come forward and find a more direct pass which is sometimes what we definitely need. St Mirren played in such a way to create a very congested central channel a lot of the time which prevented him from being able to do anything useful with the ball without a decent risk of losing it.
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alzyerpal
6 Mar 2017, 10:50 PM
Someone mentioned (Sportscene I think?) that St Mirren were allowing Boyata to keep the ball and,
when he had possession, tightening up on everyone else thus giving him no out ball.
He would invariably carry the ball forward at which point he would be put under pressure leaving a big
Boyata spaced hole ready to be exploited.

I wasn't at the game caller but it seems to have been less the fault of Boyata and more a very good
game plan by St Mirren which Brendan obviously addressed at half time.
Several times after carrying the ball forward on Sunday he missed some great runs (mostly from Armstrong) that a simple ball over the top would've been all that was needed.
I'm not completely sold on him just yet, the pressure of Sunday will be a massive test for him.
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6 Mar 2017, 02:22 PM
james95
6 Mar 2017, 01:52 PM
He was taking too long to release the ball yesterday.
only because he had no options whatsoever to pass to.

sviatchenko getting ragdolled by sutton yesterday was the bigger problem
Sviatchenko doesn't receive half the criticism Boyata does. Odd.
One of the centre backs you mention; Made his debut as a sub when we were loosing in a semi-final, somehow managed to come out of that looking good. Instantly improved a defence which was leaking goals and made us a stronger unit. Looked good even when he had to play alongside Efe Ambrose and Charlie Mulgrew. Came on with 20 minutes to go in Israel when it looked as though we were heading out the CL and shored things up to secure our passage into the group stages.

The other; From the start looked incapable of passing a football. For a year and half had moments where he lost concentration which cost us or put us under pressure by making rash decisions. Never really played more than 5 games without being dropped for poor form.

One of these players will be entitled to more leeway from the support and rightly so.
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Always feel there's a bombscare just around the corner with him. Done great since he came in so lets hope Sunday isn't the day he takes a backward step.

He is due another OG. :ffs:
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I'd also argue that he's no worse than Jozo or Erik on the ball most of the time to be honest. He's the one out of those 3 who I trust the most when they decide to try and dribble their way out of trouble - he does well at that.
Any centre back who tries to dribble his way out of trouble is likely to end up in more trouble not get himself out of it. Dribbling is part of the game but no way should it be for central defenders deep in their own half.
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Was he really that bad on Sunday, I missed the game and haven't watched any highlights bar the goals.
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7 Mar 2017, 07:34 AM
alzyerpal
6 Mar 2017, 10:50 PM
Someone mentioned (Sportscene I think?) that St Mirren were allowing Boyata to keep the ball and,
when he had possession, tightening up on everyone else thus giving him no out ball.
He would invariably carry the ball forward at which point he would be put under pressure leaving a big
Boyata spaced hole ready to be exploited.

I wasn't at the game caller but it seems to have been less the fault of Boyata and more a very good
game plan by St Mirren which Brendan obviously addressed at half time.
Several times after carrying the ball forward on Sunday he missed some great runs (mostly from Armstrong) that a simple ball over the top would've been all that was needed.
I'm not completely sold on him just yet, the pressure of Sunday will be a massive test for him.
A simple ball over the top that our midfielders wouldn't be able to execute.
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7 Mar 2017, 09:37 AM
Was he really that bad on Sunday, I missed the game and haven't watched any highlights bar the goals.
They were all rotten first half, and better second.
Erik had a poorer match.
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Why are we looking for problems that aren't there? He's hit a great bit of form and made a few sloppy passes at the weekend. That's all.
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