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James Forrest; he's awright so he is.
Topic Started: 26 Feb 2015, 09:19 PM (518,026 Views)
Wailer
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Patrick_Bateman
7 Aug 2015, 01:10 PM
Ess
7 Aug 2015, 12:56 PM
Patrick_Bateman
7 Aug 2015, 12:47 PM

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How much tolerance before it's open season on him you mean ?
No. That's not what I mean at all.

How much time and tolerance do people want to give him before they accept he's never going to fulfill his potential and isn't the explosive, enthusiastic, fearless 19 year old who burst on the scene in 2010? He's regressed significantly, physically and, I would argue, mentally.
1 year on and RD is starting to get some plaudits for his management maybe James could benefit from some patience to see if it's starting to work on him.
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Patrick_Bateman
7 Aug 2015, 01:10 PM
Ess
7 Aug 2015, 12:56 PM
Patrick_Bateman
7 Aug 2015, 12:47 PM

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How much tolerance before it's open season on him you mean ?
No. That's not what I mean at all.

How much time and tolerance do people want to give him before they accept he's never going to fulfill his potential and isn't the explosive, enthusiastic, fearless 19 year old who burst on the scene in 2010? He's regressed significantly, physically and, I would argue, mentally.
I can only speak for myself, I think he is a very good player, based on what I know he is capable of.
The last two years have seen him continually break down after a few games, but RD seems to have addressed this and hopefully a slower more gradual reintroduction this season will see his fitness and more importantly his confidence return.
I want him to do well, like all Celtic players and if he gets a run of games and seems to have really lost his mojo, I'd wish him all the best somewhere else.

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Wailer
7 Aug 2015, 01:01 PM
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7 Aug 2015, 12:58 PM
This thread is like groundhog day: "when fit", "if fit", "run of games" and round and round we go
I know, let's just sell the Barry Allen wannabe and be free of all this tedium.
:rocker:
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Ess
7 Aug 2015, 12:43 PM
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7 Aug 2015, 12:38 PM
Who knew it was a lack of full fitness that made him square it when he should have just put the ball in the net. If only he was fully fit his decision making might have been totally different.
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because that's what people are saying
Wailer's post above mine would suggest something along those lines.

We've been saying he's had potential if fully fit for about 5 years now. He must be the only 24 year old with potential.
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7 Aug 2015, 12:54 PM
It's not so much that he doesn't deserve criticism, its the tone of some posts that surprises me.
At worst he is a player who made it to the first team, and has a terrible injury record - worthy of a bit of sympathy rather than over analysis of the one real mistake he made.

He did ok on Wednesday, better than GMS, in the time he was on. good for him, I hope it continues.
Or a player that although being paid a pretty tasty wage seems to be making no effort to improve his game.

I suppose he maybe is making the effort and it just isnt coming off for him.
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McStay
7 Aug 2015, 01:44 PM
We've been saying he's had potential if fully fit for about 5 years now. He must be the only 24 year old with potential.
Don't dismiss the guy, he's got the potential to be a 25 year old with potential.
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adbhoy
7 Aug 2015, 09:56 AM
If James Forrest played for the hun, no one on here would think he has any ability or is good enough.

Regardless of form/injury - he never has been good enough for us.
If he played for the huns, he'd be about Nacho Novo's level :ph43r:
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7 Aug 2015, 02:00 PM
McStay
7 Aug 2015, 01:44 PM
We've been saying he's had potential if fully fit for about 5 years now. He must be the only 24 year old with potential.
Don't dismiss the guy, he's got the potential to be a 25 year old with potential.
"ITS A BIG YEAR FOR JAMES FORREST"

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7 Aug 2015, 09:28 AM
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7 Aug 2015, 03:46 AM
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6 Aug 2015, 09:51 AM

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It is pathetic. You just want to rubbish that anything that Forrest does.
The fact is that GMS gave great effort when we did not have the ball but he did eff all
when he had possession. Did he even complete a pass.
You're pathetic.

Your failure to realise the mitigating circumstances in their performances the other night is laughable. You also have a go at a guy for daring to question Forrest's contribution yet totally slaughter GMS in the same post.

There seems to be a lot of sensitive souls on this board.
I find it strange that we have some fans who do not want to credit Forrest a fine run. It was the best
penetrating attack of the game for us. No! the anti Forrest Brigade couldn't have that. Anybody could have done
that as everybody was knackered they claim. That is what was pathetic.
My comments on GMS did not rubbish him at all . I gave him credit for his effort.
I mentioned GMS as others have used GMS thread to negatively comment on Forrest
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Patrick_Bateman
7 Aug 2015, 01:10 PM
Ess
7 Aug 2015, 12:56 PM
Patrick_Bateman
7 Aug 2015, 12:47 PM

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How much tolerance before it's open season on him you mean ?
No. That's not what I mean at all.

How much time and tolerance do people want to give him before they accept he's never going to fulfill his potential and isn't the explosive, enthusiastic, fearless 19 year old who burst on the scene in 2010? He's regressed significantly, physically and, I would argue, mentally.
I think that is a big part of his problem. He always appears to be holding back to me whether it be a complete lack of confidence in himself or fear of further injury, perhaps a combination of both. This makes his play entirely predictable and frustrating. I don't like the way I hear fellow supporters dishing out the abuse to our players. However, unfortunately, it is the norm and at Parkhead, in particular, I'm not sure he can cope with that negativity and pressure. There may still be a decent player in there, but while he is still unsure of himself and holding back that player isn't going to flourish. He finds himself in a catch 22 with the fans. Fans have no confidence in him and get on his back pretty quickly which does his confidence no good.
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from what i can gather we now have possibly the best backroom medical and sports science team in our modern history and he is getting proper support, but sadly I can't help feeling that his next big injury will be his last for the club. If it goes that way it will be a loan spell with Hibs before Halifax come in with a 200,000 offer and then it will be a guest spot as a pundit on radio clyde 2 years later.
I hope I'm wrong and the guy who was recognised by UEFA as one of the best young talents can come good. My only criticism of him is when he keeps claiming for fouls instead of getting stuck in. He needs you guys who go to matches to get right behind him. I really want this to end well.
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How long left to run on his contract?
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7 Aug 2015, 09:57 AM
adbhoy
7 Aug 2015, 09:56 AM
If James Forrest played for the hun, no one on here would think he has any ability or is good enough.

Regardless of form/injury - he never has been good enough for us.
Now that is pathetic.
No it's not. That is the way that some of our supporters think.

Back up your statement on how it is pathetic and we can chat other that post a statement and scurry away.

I have been quite vocal about James Forrest on here. I don't care if everyone thinks the sun shines out his arse, I think he is pish and this 'he's carrying an injury, wait till he's at full fitness etc' crap that people peddle, to me, is just crap. He is utterly gutless - doesn't matter how fit he is, he's a bottle merchant.

And I maintain the stance that if he played for Rangers, he would be a laughing stock - the great white hype that was Chris Burke springs to mind.
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8 Aug 2015, 08:26 AM
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7 Aug 2015, 09:57 AM
adbhoy
7 Aug 2015, 09:56 AM
If James Forrest played for the hun, no one on here would think he has any ability or is good enough.

Regardless of form/injury - he never has been good enough for us.
Now that is pathetic.
No it's not. That is the way that some of our supporters think.

Back up your statement on how it is pathetic and we can chat other that post a statement and scurry away.

I have been quite vocal about James Forrest on here. I don't care if everyone thinks the sun shines out his arse, I think he is pish and this 'he's carrying an injury, wait till he's at full fitness etc' crap that people peddle, to me, is just crap. He is utterly gutless - doesn't matter how fit he is, he's a bottle merchant.

And I maintain the stance that if he played for Rangers, he would be a laughing stock - the great white hype that was Chris Burke springs to mind.
Aye right.
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8 Aug 2015, 08:26 AM
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7 Aug 2015, 09:57 AM
adbhoy
7 Aug 2015, 09:56 AM
If James Forrest played for the hun, no one on here would think he has any ability or is good enough.

Regardless of form/injury - he never has been good enough for us.
Now that is pathetic.
No it's not. That is the way that some of our supporters think.

Back up your statement on how it is pathetic and we can chat other that post a statement and scurry away.

I have been quite vocal about James Forrest on here. I don't care if everyone thinks the sun shines out his arse, I think he is pish and this 'he's carrying an injury, wait till he's at full fitness etc' crap that people peddle, to me, is just crap. He is utterly gutless - doesn't matter how fit he is, he's a bottle merchant.

And I maintain the stance that if he played for Rangers, he would be a laughing stock - the great white hype that was Chris Burke springs to mind.
I've not seen anyone state anything about the sun shining out his arse.
A lot of people have pointed out that he's been injured for years and it's only now that he's not.
Fitness isn't an aotomatic thing and will take Forrest time to get there.
Mentally it most be really tough for him having to learn to trust his body after breaking down so many times.
Ronny is doing the right thing in the way he's bringing him back and he's still in with a chance of being a good player for us.

Your post comes across as a bit "ranting and raving" with very little facts to back it up.
He has been injured, he is looking for fitness, just because you think he's crap, doesn't make any of your point the truth.
As for being a "bottle merchant", he's actually scored a number of important goals for us when we really needed it and put in big performances.

Your comments read like you are genuinely upset, surely it's not because people rate Forrest and you don't?
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7 Aug 2015, 08:11 PM
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7 Aug 2015, 09:28 AM
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7 Aug 2015, 03:46 AM

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You're pathetic.

Your failure to realise the mitigating circumstances in their performances the other night is laughable. You also have a go at a guy for daring to question Forrest's contribution yet totally slaughter GMS in the same post.

There seems to be a lot of sensitive souls on this board.
I find it strange that we have some fans who do not want to credit Forrest a fine run. It was the best
penetrating attack of the game for us. No! the anti Forrest Brigade couldn't have that. Anybody could have done
that as everybody was knackered they claim. That is what was pathetic.
My comments on GMS did not rubbish him at all . I gave him credit for his effort.
I mentioned GMS as others have used GMS thread to negatively comment on Forrest
No, you were the one who said Forrest did more in the little time he was on than GMS did in the whole game. I and others pointed out the difference and impact both would likely have made if they switched roles.

You obviously don't know what it's like to play in 35 degree heat if you don't believe players would be extremely tired when Forrest was introduced.
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8 Aug 2015, 02:46 PM
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7 Aug 2015, 08:11 PM
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7 Aug 2015, 09:28 AM

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I find it strange that we have some fans who do not want to credit Forrest a fine run. It was the best
penetrating attack of the game for us. No! the anti Forrest Brigade couldn't have that. Anybody could have done
that as everybody was knackered they claim. That is what was pathetic.
My comments on GMS did not rubbish him at all . I gave him credit for his effort.
I mentioned GMS as others have used GMS thread to negatively comment on Forrest
No, you were the one who said Forrest did more in the little time he was on than GMS did in the whole game. I and others pointed out the difference and impact both would likely have made if they switched roles.

You obviously don't know what it's like to play in 35 degree heat if you don't believe players would be extremely tired when Forrest was introduced.
Did you notice the impact the Qarabag subs made to the game?
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7 Aug 2015, 08:11 PM

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No, you were the one who said Forrest did more in the little time he was on than GMS did in the whole game. I and others pointed out the difference and impact both would likely have made if they switched roles.

You obviously don't know what it's like to play in 35 degree heat if you don't believe players would be extremely tired when Forrest was introduced.
Did you notice the impact the Qarabag subs made to the game?
Would have been difficult given most of ours and their team were in our half.
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Forrest comes on a sub and does ok.

.........But thats because everyone else was knackered :lol:
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A fit and on form James Forrest "waltzes" into the starting line up in my opinion. I would love to see him and Gary Mackay-Steven on both wings. I see Forrest being a very important player in both legs against Malmo.
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