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James Forrest; he's awright so he is.
Topic Started: 26 Feb 2015, 09:19 PM (518,027 Views)
remy mcswain
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adbhoy
7 Aug 2015, 09:56 AM
If James Forrest played for the hun, no one on here would think he has any ability or is good enough.

Regardless of form/injury - he never has been good enough for us.
Now that is pathetic.
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remy mcswain
7 Aug 2015, 09:57 AM
adbhoy
7 Aug 2015, 09:56 AM
If James Forrest played for the hun, no one on here would think he has any ability or is good enough.

Regardless of form/injury - he never has been good enough for us.
Now that is pathetic.
I still think he has something that we need . I always thought he was an excellent player at full fitness.
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Stick. Every time. His wages are hee haw and his pace a rarity amongst players. He might not be the superstar most had predicted but he's still one of the best attacking players in our league.
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7 Aug 2015, 11:15 AM
Stick. Every time. His wages are hee haw and his pace a rarity amongst players. He might not be the superstar most had predicted but he's still one of the best attacking players in our league.
If he's one of the best attacking players in the league, then Scottish football is significantly worse than I remember

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Wee James is very capable when fit. He's a bit from being fully fit right now and if he can get a spell without injury his confidence will grow then we'll see the best of him. Easily better than GMS on his day.

A little patience wouldn't go amiss.
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7 Aug 2015, 12:22 PM
Wee James is very capable when fit. He's a bit from being fully fit right now and if he can get a spell without injury his confidence will grow then we'll see the best of him. Easily better than GMS on his day.

A little patience wouldn't go amiss.
Thats my take on it - some of the criticism he gets is unbelievable, hopefully he will stay injury free and get some game time, should see a huge improvement.
RD did say he has been injured for too long and they were going to try to build him up slowly to resolve the problem.

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7 Aug 2015, 12:21 PM
Bawman
7 Aug 2015, 11:15 AM
Stick. Every time. His wages are hee haw and his pace a rarity amongst players. He might not be the superstar most had predicted but he's still one of the best attacking players in our league.
If he's one of the best attacking players in the league, then Scottish football is significantly worse than I remember

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Sorry mate but getting old happens to the best of us.
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Who knew it was a lack of full fitness that made him square it when he should have just put the ball in the net. If only he was fully fit his decision making might have been totally different.
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7 Aug 2015, 12:38 PM
Who knew it was a lack of full fitness that made him square it when he should have just put the ball in the net. If only he was fully fit his decision making might have been totally different.
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because that's what people are saying
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James Forrest hasn't been properly fit for about three years. Deila has already made multiple comments about how ready and properly match fit he has been at certain points in the last season and a bit. We know he had issues with his hamstrings, and more recently his core strength and fitness. In addition to this he's had confidence issues to both trust his body and be able to do enough training to execute his skills when at pace. It's previously been commented that given the frequency of his injuries and his prolonged rehab he really has never been able to get any consistency.

Those who suggest he hasn't developed might be right to some extent, but how can we expect him to have done so with that history? On his day (which admittedly has been rare) he has shown great pace, skill, touch and the ability to offer a genuine goal threat.

Add to that he's one of our own, home developed players and he certainly deserves more time and tolerance than many seem willing to give him. I think he can be special and in an era where our Celtic team isn't overflowing with special talents I think we should stick with him until it's clear that Deila and his team can't get the best out of him.
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tumbal
7 Aug 2015, 12:44 PM
James Forrest hasn't been properly fit for about three years. Deila has already made multiple comments about how ready and properly match fit he has been at certain points in the last season and a bit. We know he had issues with his hamstrings, and more recently his core strength and fitness. In addition to this he's had confidence issues to both trust his body and be able to do enough training to execute his skills when at pace. It's previously been commented that given the frequency of his injuries and his prolonged rehab he really has never been able to get any consistency.

Those who suggest he hasn't developed might be right to some extent, but how can we expect him to have done so with that history? On his day (which admittedly has been rare) he has shown great pace, skill, touch and the ability to offer a genuine goal threat.

Add to that he's one of our own, home developed players and he certainly deserves more time and tolerance than many seem willing to give him. I think he can be special and in an era where our Celtic team isn't overflowing with special talents I think we should stick with him until it's clear that Deila and his team can't get the best out of him.
How much time and tolerance? He's been a first team player for 5 and a half years and has gone backwards in that time.
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7 Aug 2015, 12:47 PM
tumbal
7 Aug 2015, 12:44 PM
James Forrest hasn't been properly fit for about three years. Deila has already made multiple comments about how ready and properly match fit he has been at certain points in the last season and a bit. We know he had issues with his hamstrings, and more recently his core strength and fitness. In addition to this he's had confidence issues to both trust his body and be able to do enough training to execute his skills when at pace. It's previously been commented that given the frequency of his injuries and his prolonged rehab he really has never been able to get any consistency.

Those who suggest he hasn't developed might be right to some extent, but how can we expect him to have done so with that history? On his day (which admittedly has been rare) he has shown great pace, skill, touch and the ability to offer a genuine goal threat.

Add to that he's one of our own, home developed players and he certainly deserves more time and tolerance than many seem willing to give him. I think he can be special and in an era where our Celtic team isn't overflowing with special talents I think we should stick with him until it's clear that Deila and his team can't get the best out of him.
How much time and tolerance? He's been a first team player for 5 and a half years and has gone backwards in that time.
Until he stays fit and Ronny and co think they've done all they can.
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It's not so much that he doesn't deserve criticism, its the tone of some posts that surprises me.
At worst he is a player who made it to the first team, and has a terrible injury record - worthy of a bit of sympathy rather than over analysis of the one real mistake he made.

He did ok on Wednesday, better than GMS, in the time he was on. good for him, I hope it continues.
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7 Aug 2015, 12:47 PM
tumbal
7 Aug 2015, 12:44 PM
James Forrest hasn't been properly fit for about three years. Deila has already made multiple comments about how ready and properly match fit he has been at certain points in the last season and a bit. We know he had issues with his hamstrings, and more recently his core strength and fitness. In addition to this he's had confidence issues to both trust his body and be able to do enough training to execute his skills when at pace. It's previously been commented that given the frequency of his injuries and his prolonged rehab he really has never been able to get any consistency.

Those who suggest he hasn't developed might be right to some extent, but how can we expect him to have done so with that history? On his day (which admittedly has been rare) he has shown great pace, skill, touch and the ability to offer a genuine goal threat.

Add to that he's one of our own, home developed players and he certainly deserves more time and tolerance than many seem willing to give him. I think he can be special and in an era where our Celtic team isn't overflowing with special talents I think we should stick with him until it's clear that Deila and his team can't get the best out of him.
How much time and tolerance? He's been a first team player for 5 and a half years and has gone backwards in that time.
How much tolerance before it's open season on him you mean ?
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This thread is like groundhog day: "when fit", "if fit", "run of games" and round and round we go
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He should have shot, no argument. His 'square' would have left an open goal and we'd all have been creaming ourselves about how well he'd done. He had a 50/50 decision to make and made the wrong one but at least he got himself into that position in the 1st place. Can't recall any other similar chances on the night and if the goalie had saved his shot some would still be moaning about his lack of finishing.

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7 Aug 2015, 12:58 PM
This thread is like groundhog day: "when fit", "if fit", "run of games" and round and round we go
I know, let's just sell the Barry Allen wannabe and be free of all this tedium.
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7 Aug 2015, 12:56 PM
Patrick_Bateman
7 Aug 2015, 12:47 PM
tumbal
7 Aug 2015, 12:44 PM
James Forrest hasn't been properly fit for about three years. Deila has already made multiple comments about how ready and properly match fit he has been at certain points in the last season and a bit. We know he had issues with his hamstrings, and more recently his core strength and fitness. In addition to this he's had confidence issues to both trust his body and be able to do enough training to execute his skills when at pace. It's previously been commented that given the frequency of his injuries and his prolonged rehab he really has never been able to get any consistency.

Those who suggest he hasn't developed might be right to some extent, but how can we expect him to have done so with that history? On his day (which admittedly has been rare) he has shown great pace, skill, touch and the ability to offer a genuine goal threat.

Add to that he's one of our own, home developed players and he certainly deserves more time and tolerance than many seem willing to give him. I think he can be special and in an era where our Celtic team isn't overflowing with special talents I think we should stick with him until it's clear that Deila and his team can't get the best out of him.
How much time and tolerance? He's been a first team player for 5 and a half years and has gone backwards in that time.
How much tolerance before it's open season on him you mean ?
No. That's not what I mean at all.

How much time and tolerance do people want to give him before they accept he's never going to fulfill his potential and isn't the explosive, enthusiastic, fearless 19 year old who burst on the scene in 2010? He's regressed significantly, physically and, I would argue, mentally.
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7 Aug 2015, 01:10 PM
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7 Aug 2015, 12:56 PM
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7 Aug 2015, 12:47 PM

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How much tolerance before it's open season on him you mean ?
No. That's not what I mean at all.

How much time and tolerance do people want to give him before they accept he's never going to fulfill his potential and isn't the explosive, enthusiastic, fearless 19 year old who burst on the scene in 2010? He's regressed significantly, physically and, I would argue, mentally.
I wouldn't necessarily disagree with your assessment. But I don't think the management team under Lenny did Forrest any favours in the longer term. I think he needs time with the current regime to see if he can be fixed. I don't know how long we give him and I presume no one outside Deila and co. will have any idea of a realistic timeframe.
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He blows more cold than hot. In fact, he blows utter baltic most of the time these days. A shame.
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