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James Forrest; he's awright so he is.
Topic Started: 26 Feb 2015, 09:19 PM (518,030 Views)
Dubz
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Neilly
5 Aug 2015, 10:00 PM
Dubz
5 Aug 2015, 09:52 PM
don't think squaring his chance was a lack of confidence in his own finishing, its just one those decision making situations where anyone with hindsight can rip the shampoo out off it.
He's been an attacking professional player for how long now? Instinctively he should have put his effing laces through it, no debate.
Of course there's a debate, Armstrong goal v Milan last year. Admittedly it was a tighter angle but Matthews could easily have had a shot away and chose not to.
Im certainly not going to slate Forrest for that decision tonight, happens all the time.
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Could be useful in Europe (CL Group Stages :pray: ) on the counter, judging by his performance tonight and previous ones such as against Spartak where he changed the game when he came on.

Could be even more useful if he gets his mojo back...
Edited by jamieboy, 5 Aug 2015, 10:53 PM.
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5 Aug 2015, 09:58 PM
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5 Aug 2015, 09:22 PM
What was he thinking about not - passing and not shooting when was clean through.

Should have scored - and what a goal it would have been.

Most penetrating piece of running we had seen all night and then he fluffs his lines.
With respect.

".... and what a goal that would have been...."

In my opinion, he was petrified of the responsibility.
Aye, looked like he shat it a wee bit. When Forrest has confidence and form he's superb, but sometimes he does things like square when he needs to shot ffs. Did he not do the same against Ajax?
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I think his poor decision after running clear is exacerbated by the fact that it was 1 of only 2 clear cut chances we had the entire tie from open play.

Correct sub, at the correct time. His pace terrified them.
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Personally i'm not his biggest fan. But simply put; there's people in our support who are out to get him. His decision to square it in the 2nd half was the right one. The same people would have murdered him had he shot and missed.
Edited by ssmith81, 6 Aug 2015, 02:11 AM.
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Kingslim
5 Aug 2015, 09:55 PM
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5 Aug 2015, 09:44 PM
Neil Jung
5 Aug 2015, 09:42 PM
effing laughable. He did more in the time he was on the park than GMS did all game. Yes, he made the wrong decision but an understandable one. If the ball had went to Griffiths or Johansen nobody would be moaning. If he took the shot and missed or the keeper saved everybody would still be moaning. He played well. Get off your effing hobby horses for eff sake. Performances aren't judged on individual moments. Especially ones that in the end weren't costly.
:thumbsup:

Like the folk who wanted him sold after his miss at St Johnstone, tonight's critics are overlooking the fact that he is the only player in the squad with the ability to make those dangerous runs.

GMS is a lesser player with better fitness and confidence.
I think you need a bit of perspective. Forrest came on when there was miles of space in their half when we won the ball back and the fact most of the players would have been knackered.

If GMS came on that late I'm sure he would have had more time and space on the ball. He was poor tonight but he still gave his all.
Pathetic :ffs:
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ssmith81
6 Aug 2015, 02:11 AM
Personally i'm not his biggest fan. But simply put; there's people in our support who are out to get him. His decision to square it in the 2nd half was the right one. The same people would have murdered him had he shot and missed.
Agree with this.
The goalkeeper was very quick to come out and narrow the angle Forrest would not have much to
shoot at.
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Dubz
5 Aug 2015, 10:22 PM
Neilly
5 Aug 2015, 10:00 PM
Dubz
5 Aug 2015, 09:52 PM
don't think squaring his chance was a lack of confidence in his own finishing, its just one those decision making situations where anyone with hindsight can rip the shampoo out off it.
He's been an attacking professional player for how long now? Instinctively he should have put his effing laces through it, no debate.
Of course there's a debate, Armstrong goal v Milan last year. Admittedly it was a tighter angle but Matthews could easily have had a shot away and chose not to.
Im certainly not going to slate Forrest for that decision tonight, happens all the time.
Mathews is a full back.

Forrest is an attacking winger who should have buried it.
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Neil Jung
5 Aug 2015, 09:42 PM
effing laughable. He did more in the time he was on the park than GMS did all game. Yes, he made the wrong decision but an understandable one. If the ball had went to Griffiths or Johansen nobody would be moaning. If he took the shot and missed or the keeper saved everybody would still be moaning. He played well. Get off your effing hobby horses for eff sake. Performances aren't judged on individual moments. Especially ones that in the end weren't costly.
Agree with this.

People slaughtering JF after such a fantastic run are being a little OTT.

He should have shot but surely he deserves credit for running at a retreating defence from his own half and creating one of the best chances of the night.

He did well when he came on.
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Forrest only has pace, that's it.
If he is up against a pacy defender that he can't knock it past and beat easily then he goes missing.
He also doesn't really have the skill or awareness to be a top player yet. That was in evidence again in that run last night.
However, I still live in hope that this will develop in him as he is certainly a threat to tiring players late in a game.
Maybe that is his best role in Champions League football anyway.
When he isn't injured, or throwing his hands in the air.
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6 Aug 2015, 07:46 AM
Neil Jung
5 Aug 2015, 09:42 PM
effing laughable. He did more in the time he was on the park than GMS did all game. Yes, he made the wrong decision but an understandable one. If the ball had went to Griffiths or Johansen nobody would be moaning. If he took the shot and missed or the keeper saved everybody would still be moaning. He played well. Get off your effing hobby horses for eff sake. Performances aren't judged on individual moments. Especially ones that in the end weren't costly.
Agree with this.

People slaughtering JF after such a fantastic run are being a little OTT.

He should have shot but surely he deserves credit for running at a retreating defence from his own half and creating one of the best chances of the night.

He did well when he came on.
That run is the absolute minimum you have to expect from Forrest though. The run doesn't count for nearly as much if he messes the bed when it matters.
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5 Aug 2015, 09:24 PM
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5 Aug 2015, 09:22 PM
What was he thinking about not - passing and not shooting when was clean through.

Should have scored - and what a goal it would have been.

Most penetrating piece of running we had seen all night and then he fluffs his lines.
Great run. Liked the way he played the 1-2 off the first defender to himself rather than to an opponent, that was new.

His horrendous timing and decision making thereafter were not.
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Did well in his cameo last night. It still remains to be seen if he can put in a performance for a whole game, then a series of games without getting injured again.
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ssmith81
6 Aug 2015, 02:11 AM
Personally i'm not his biggest fan. But simply put; there's people in our support who are out to get him. His decision to square it in the 2nd half was the right one. The same people would have murdered him had he shot and missed.
For an attacking midfielder, in an away tie when a goal would kill it stone dead, and a fair gap at the keeper's near post, I was ragin that he squared it and screwed it up. I would also have been ragin if he had shot and missed. There's no excuse for not at least testing the keeper in that situation. He's either a poor decision-maker or a schytebag. Or both.
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Still showing glimpses. If he could put it all together, we'd have ourselves a player.

Transplant Broony or Stefan's mindset into this dude.
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Flinchy
6 Aug 2015, 09:18 AM
ssmith81
6 Aug 2015, 02:11 AM
Personally i'm not his biggest fan. But simply put; there's people in our support who are out to get him. His decision to square it in the 2nd half was the right one. The same people would have murdered him had he shot and missed.
For an attacking midfielder, in an away tie when a goal would kill it stone dead, and a fair gap at the keeper's near post, I was ragin that he squared it and screwed it up. I would also have been ragin if he had shot and missed. There's no excuse for not at least testing the keeper in that situation. He's either a poor decision-maker or a schytebag. Or both.
Aye.

He'd be receiving a fair bit less ire had he actually decided to have a dig, rather than look like a bottler.
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6 Aug 2015, 08:50 AM
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Neil Jung
5 Aug 2015, 09:42 PM
effing laughable. He did more in the time he was on the park than GMS did all game. Yes, he made the wrong decision but an understandable one. If the ball had went to Griffiths or Johansen nobody would be moaning. If he took the shot and missed or the keeper saved everybody would still be moaning. He played well. Get off your effing hobby horses for eff sake. Performances aren't judged on individual moments. Especially ones that in the end weren't costly.
Agree with this.

People slaughtering JF after such a fantastic run are being a little OTT.

He should have shot but surely he deserves credit for running at a retreating defence from his own half and creating one of the best chances of the night.

He did well when he came on.
That run is the absolute minimum you have to expect from Forrest though. The run doesn't count for nearly as much if he messes the bed when it matters.
I think that is a bit harsh. Not many players in our team have that ability in their locker.

I am not saying he is perfect but he fashioned probably our best chance of the night by himself.
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This is Forrests game. Bring him on with 20-30 minutes left against tiring opponents in a stretched game.
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6 Aug 2015, 09:18 AM
ssmith81
6 Aug 2015, 02:11 AM
Personally i'm not his biggest fan. But simply put; there's people in our support who are out to get him. His decision to square it in the 2nd half was the right one. The same people would have murdered him had he shot and missed.
For an attacking midfielder, in an away tie when a goal would kill it stone dead, and a fair gap at the keeper's near post, I was ragin that he squared it and screwed it up. I would also have been ragin if he had shot and missed. There's no excuse for not at least testing the keeper in that situation. He's either a poor decision-maker or a schytebag. Or both.
I don't think he's either.
I think it's a confidence thing with him.
He's career to date has been ruined by injures, he still doesn't look comfortable and doesn't look like he's running at full pelt.
Maybe he is and it is the injuries catching up with him?

I'd have rather he took the shot himself last night as he made the chance.
He is actually a good finisher so was disappointed that he chose to square it.
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I don't think he's fit enough to start an away game in Europe. His inconsistency and ability to hide when the going is tough doesn't help either.

GMS was rotten last night, but I'd definitely rather we started a match with him, than Forrest. I'd say that he has definitely merited being picked, in his short time with us.

Although his defenders on here will always argue otherwise. Stokes Syndrome, I believe it's called.
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