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James Forrest; he's awright so he is.
Topic Started: 26 Feb 2015, 09:19 PM (518,051 Views)
Danny McGrain
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The penalty "argument" was a bit embarrassing to watch i thought and I was fairly certain it was going to be missed due to it. James Forrest looked a bit daft t holding onto the ball like a wee kid.
Scott Brown should have decided who was taking it.
We were cruising and playing against ten men by that time so I'm not that bothered...

But in future we cannot just let someone take a penaly because they think they deserve to... or f we do I'm nominating Craig Gordon !
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One of the worst penalties I've ever seen. No technique, no disguise, an awkward run up and a a powder puff hit. Not actually sure he knew where he was putting the penalty.

Thankfully it didn't matter.
Edited by the_cannelloni_of_charisma, 16 Mar 2015, 09:27 AM.
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Edited by the_cannelloni_of_charisma, 16 Mar 2015, 09:27 AM.
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Horrible penalty but the bigger picture is that he looked sharp and took his goal brilliantly. I thought he did well at Tannadice last week too so encouraging signs for him.
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16 Mar 2015, 09:20 AM
Another perspective, if it was 0-0, Utd with 10 men and Forrest won the penalty, do you think Forrest would have grabbed the ball? I have my doubts.........
Like the one v Ajax, in the mickey mouse CL?
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i admire some of the posters optimism that some how wee James is going to make it. what are we now, about four or five seasons on from his debut and i dont think he has progresses at all. don't think he poses much of a threat to GMS or Armstrong. we should be trying to get a notts forest or derby interested for 2-3 mill.
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16 Mar 2015, 09:20 AM
Another perspective, if it was 0-0, Utd with 10 men and Forrest won the penalty, do you think Forrest would have grabbed the ball? I have my doubts.........
He wouldn't have had to have fought for it, that's for sure :lol:
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Putting aside the schoolboy antics over the penalty, he did well when he came on (albeit against ten men). Certainly showed he was more than a one-trick pony and the goal was well taken.

Perhaps he will feature more as an impact sub than a starter over the rest of the season.
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Made an impact, helped put the game to bed with his goal and won a penalty. That's definitely pleasing to see. If you're looking for a caveat to that, it was done against a ten man side who were narrow as eff at the time he came on. But he played pretty well, shocking penalty aside.

I can't believe that we didn't have a designated penalty taker, or some list of designated takers, though. Almost every single team does. If we're continuing to let Stokes hit corners, then we should really have someone who'll hit penalties.


EDIT - I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that, over the last couple of seasons, the bulk of his performances that err on the side of "no bad" came from the bench.
Edited by Hinkel's Beard, 16 Mar 2015, 10:06 AM.
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16 Mar 2015, 09:43 AM
i admire some of the posters optimism that some how wee James is going to make it. what are we now, about four or five seasons on from his debut and i dont think he has progresses at all. don't think he poses much of a threat to GMS or Armstrong. we should be trying to get a notts forest or derby interested for 2-3 mill.
There's no doubt Forrest has been hampered by injuries but it's worth remembering he was playing in the Champions League and for Scotland when GMS, who's a year older than him, was messing about with Airdrie in the lower leagues. GMS and Armstrong are still benefiting from feeling new and fresh but both have much to prove. Familiarity breeds contempt and all that!
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16 Mar 2015, 10:38 AM
blackwindmill
16 Mar 2015, 09:43 AM
i admire some of the posters optimism that some how wee James is going to make it. what are we now, about four or five seasons on from his debut and i dont think he has progresses at all. don't think he poses much of a threat to GMS or Armstrong. we should be trying to get a notts forest or derby interested for 2-3 mill.
There's no doubt Forrest has been hampered by injuries but it's worth remembering he was playing in the Champions League and for Scotland when GMS, who's a year older than him, was messing about with Airdrie in the lower leagues. GMS and Armstrong are still benefiting from feeling new and fresh but both have much to prove. Familiarity breeds contempt and all that!
So your point is that GMS has improved and Forrest has regressed?
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It's great to come in here and see posts from fans insinuating that Celtic fans were watching the penalty wishing Forrest to miss it or hitting the high notes of screeching with joy when he missed it. FFS some people don't like Forrest as a player and others do and frustrations and stick aswell as over hyped praise will get chucked about the place. What's not cool is guys saying "the forrest haters will be pleased he missed" etc. that's just Pish, unless you're a complete roaster you don't want to see Celtic beat or lose goals or miss opportunities regardless who it is.
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After the stick he has had, I was happy for him to get the second goal.

In true Forrest fashion though, he still had time to blot the copybook with the penalty miss even after all that. Yes, he won it, and I would argue he had every right to want to take it with Commons off the field, but in those circumstances he really has to bury it.

He seems to do some things at times which remind you why there was such promise back when he came through, but the level of improvement has not been there for a while since. Still slack in possession and often choosing the wrong option.

I think he has got a very important final part of the season to remain part of this squad longer term, and another injury or a series of limp contributions will see him struggle.

You can't even take the liberty of saying that he appears clear of his injury problems now when it comes to Forrest, as you are just waiting on something to recur with him. However - tempting fate strongly here - if he is something like injury free, perhaps like many have said, he is going through the period of adjustment required to meet the manager's expectations and he can now be a bigger contributor.
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16 Mar 2015, 09:43 AM
i admire some of the posters optimism that some how wee James is going to make it. what are we now, about four or five seasons on from his debut and i dont think he has progresses at all. don't think he poses much of a threat to GMS or Armstrong. we should be trying to get a notts forest or derby interested for 2-3 mill.
There's no doubt Forrest has been hampered by injuries but it's worth remembering he was playing in the Champions League and for Scotland when GMS, who's a year older than him, was messing about with Airdrie in the lower leagues. GMS and Armstrong are still benefiting from feeling new and fresh but both have much to prove. Familiarity breeds contempt and all that!
So your point is that GMS has improved and Forrest has regressed?
My point is that Forrest started from a very high point and GMS a very low one. GMS is currently flavour of the month because he seems new and fresh but if he goes on to play as many games and win as many trophies for Celtic as Forrest has, he'll be doing well. To say Forrest poses no threat to GMS was, in my view, ridiculous given their varying careers so far.
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Guidetti done well for the assist.....
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So your point is that GMS has improved and Forrest has regressed?
My point is that Forrest started from a very high point and GMS a very low one. GMS is currently flavour of the month because he seems new and fresh but if he goes on to play as many games and win as many trophies for Celtic as Forrest has, he'll be doing well. To say Forrest poses no threat to GMS was, in my view, ridiculous given their varying careers so far.
I think GMS will defo play as many games as forrest has. We are talking about a guy who in five years averages about 18 games a season and roughly 4 goals a season. GMS has already shown he can link up, score goals, take some heavy tackles and stay fit. I have every confidence he will play an important part in our future. As for trophies we can't say but bear in mind as good as forrest is when he's at his best, he's never at his best or fittest long enough to have any bearing on a league run. Certainly there's no way other than Season 11/12 you can say he can be relied upon and been a major influence in the teams success.
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My point is that Forrest started from a very high point and GMS a very low one. GMS is currently flavour of the month because he seems new and fresh but if he goes on to play as many games and win as many trophies for Celtic as Forrest has, he'll be doing well. To say Forrest poses no threat to GMS was, in my view, ridiculous given their varying careers so far.
I think GMS will defo play as many games as forrest has. We are talking about a guy who in five years averages about 18 games a season and roughly 4 goals a season. GMS has already shown he can link up, score goals, take some heavy tackles and stay fit. I have every confidence he will play an important part in our future. As for trophies we can't say but bear in mind as good as forrest is when he's at his best, he's never at his best or fittest long enough to have any bearing on a league run. Certainly there's no way other than Season 11/12 you can say he can be relied upon and been a major influence in the teams success.
I hope you're right but GMS had a reputation as a streaky player at Dundee Utd. To last four or five years at Celtic is no mean feat. Forrest, for all his flaws, has managed to see off dozens of players in his time at the club so he must be doing something right.
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16 Mar 2015, 10:58 AM
After the stick he has had, I was happy for him to get the second goal.

In true Forrest fashion though, he still had time to blot the copybook with the penalty miss even after all that. Yes, he won it, and I would argue he had every right to want to take it with Commons off the field, but in those circumstances he really has to bury it.

He seems to do some things at times which remind you why there was such promise back when he came through, but the level of improvement has not been there for a while since. Still slack in possession and often choosing the wrong option.

I think he has got a very important final part of the season to remain part of this squad longer term, and another injury or a series of limp contributions will see him struggle.

You can't even take the liberty of saying that he appears clear of his injury problems now when it comes to Forrest, as you are just waiting on something to recur with him. However - tempting fate strongly here - if he is something like injury free, perhaps like many have said, he is going through the period of adjustment required to meet the manager's expectations and he can now be a bigger contributor.
Im sure Deila said he hasnt had a muscle injury for nearly 5 months now, so hopefully his fitness is being managed properly.

He had a decent 2nd half at Tannadice last week, and a decent outing yesterday, although both were when we had an extra man. Hopefully he can begin to kick on for the rest of the season and be fully ready for the CL qualifiers. If not, he's seriously close to being left behind by the progress of this team, especially with GMS and Armstrong starting so brightly.
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For all the posters sayinh he won the penalty and had every right to take it all I'll ask is when do you leave school? The Manager designates who takes the penalties, Brown, Stokes & Guidetti knew who was to take it bit the stupid little boy thoght he knew better and hit perhaps the worst penalt that was actually on target in the history of senior football in this country. also for all those who say the game was finished anyway, all it took was for Utd to go up the pitch and score for all hell to break loose in the closimg minutes. It was 2-0 and no game is finished at 2-0.
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It's great to come in here and see posts from fans insinuating that Celtic fans were watching the penalty wishing Forrest to miss it or hitting the high notes of screeching with joy when he missed it. FFS some people don't like Forrest as a player and others do and frustrations and stick aswell as over hyped praise will get chucked about the place. What's not cool is guys saying "the forrest haters will be pleased he missed" etc. that's just Pish, unless you're a complete roaster you don't want to see Celtic beat or lose goals or miss opportunities regardless who it is.
I agree. I think Forrest is the most overrated player we have but no way did I want him to miss the penalty. When he plays I want him to perform at his best. Like every other player, he's part of the team and it's the team that win games not individuals.

Would anybody who hoped he would miss have been saying that if it was crucial? No didn't think so.
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