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James Forrest; he's awright so he is.
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He needs a goal against them, had a few chances never took them. I like him starting against them as he works his socks off and then bring roberts on when they are tiring,
Roberts absolutely terrorised them in the back to back games at the end of last season, the semi-final and the 5-1 game at Ibrox.

Forrest has yet to reach that level against the huns.

Worth remembering Paddy also won a penalty against them at Hampden a couple of weeks ago, he must start on Sunday.
Forrest was involved in two of the goals. Also their best attacker never crossed the half way line - they are scared of his pace.

How the eff can we not just enjoy both? Its a squad game and both have done and will do play a part against that mob.
I do enjoy them both. I appreciate the player Forrest has become and recognise that he’s had a really good campaign.

He’s never in his entire Celtic career done it consistently against the huns. Roberts is clearly the better overall player and should start on Sunday. If you’d rather play Forrest though to better nullify the threat of a nobody like Declan John then fair enough :lol:
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That really should never be a football 'stage'. It shouldn't come into it whatsoever.

He had that chance on Saturday.

Roberts is far more effective against them, and that should be the thought process when picking the team for Sunday.

The whole team did and they all failed but most will start on Sunday. James has contributed enough this season not to be dropped in a title winning game.

I'm sure we'll manage without Roberts in this one.
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He had a nice one-two, with NtCham - which he pulled - but again, it was a good effort.

No it wasn't . It was a terrible effort, he missed the target from what 10 yards. He didn't even make the goalie make a save.

Even if you want to give him the assist for the 1st goal, which I think is generous considering Rogic had to wrong foot about 6 guys and put it in from 12 yards, we're now wanting him credit for winning a tackle? Is that a secondary assist?

Come on to eff. If he plays on Sunday he plays but there's definite gymnastics to make him appear anything but in much poorer form than of late and a continued disappointment against Rangers. Winning a tackle ffs.



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FFS give the guy a break.
I meant his one/two was good, if not the actual shot - which didn't trouble the keeper as you say.

His assist to Rogic, gave Tom the time to do his stuff - it was a 1st time pass, which Tom did wonders with.

A tackle, yeah a tackle - he didn't used to do that much & Paddy might not have either, but he did & we got a goal from it.

It's not being generous, it happened.

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:ponder: Has he ever scored against Der Hun?
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He had that chance on Saturday.

Roberts is far more effective against them, and that should be the thought process when picking the team for Sunday.

The whole team did and they all failed but most will start on Sunday. James has contributed enough this season not to be dropped in a title winning game.

I'm sure we'll manage without Roberts in this one.
I want it freshened up.

Running players into the ground is part of Brendan's problem. Forrest hasn't produced for weeks other than rolling a ball to Rogic at Hampden.

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:ponder: Has he ever scored against Der Hun?
No

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The whole team did and they all failed but most will start on Sunday. James has contributed enough this season not to be dropped in a title winning game.

I'm sure we'll manage without Roberts in this one.
I want it freshened up.

Running players into the ground is part of Brendan's problem. Forrest hasn't produced for weeks other than rolling a ball to Rogic at Hampden.

Roberts hasn’t had a lot of game time and it’s not hard to figure out why. He’s been nowhere near the form of last season, simple as that. Forrest has had his best season for us but for a while now hasn’t been firing either. So it’s a choice between two players who are well short of their best.

I think Forrest will start on Sunday, not because he’s done enough in recent times but more because Roberts hasn’t done enough to oust him.
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I want it freshened up.

Running players into the ground is part of Brendan's problem. Forrest hasn't produced for weeks other than rolling a ball to Rogic at Hampden.

Roberts hasn’t had a lot of game time and it’s not hard to figure out why. He’s been nowhere near the form of last season, simple as that. Forrest has had his best season for us but for a while now hasn’t been firing either. So it’s a choice between two players who are well short of their best.

I think Forrest will start on Sunday, not because he’s done enough in recent times but more because Roberts hasn’t done enough to oust him.
He's barely had the opportunity to stake a claim.

10 or 15 mins here or there or a start on a shampooey pitch in Hamilton isn't a fair gauge.

He's been fit for weeks and he's barely had a look in and that's not due to Forrest's great form as he's not been great recently.

Roberts was MOTM at Hamilton and won us a penalty in the SF from a cameo appearance.

He causes the Huns problems every time he plays them, whereas Forrest has never done he-haw against them and is unlikely to do anything if he starts at the weekend.

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Roberts hasn’t had a lot of game time and it’s not hard to figure out why. He’s been nowhere near the form of last season, simple as that. Forrest has had his best season for us but for a while now hasn’t been firing either. So it’s a choice between two players who are well short of their best.

I think Forrest will start on Sunday, not because he’s done enough in recent times but more because Roberts hasn’t done enough to oust him.
He's barley had the opportunity to stake a claim.

10 or 15 mins here or there or a start on a shampooey pitch in Hamilton isn't a fair gauge.

He's been fit for weeks and he's barely had a look in and that's not due to Forrest's great form as he's not been great recently.

Roberts was MOTM at Hamilton and won us a penalty in the SF from a cameo appearance.

He causes the Huns problems every time he plays them, whereas Forrest has never done he-haw against them and is unlikely to do anything if he starts at the weekend.

its down to the lopsided 3 at the back. Forrest does more tracking than Roberts so gets picked. go back to a back 4 with two full backs who can get up the park and you'd probably get more out of both
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Forrest was involved in two of the goals. Also their best attacker never crossed the half way line - they are scared of his pace.

How the eff can we not just enjoy both? Its a squad game and both have done and will do play a part against that mob.
I do enjoy them both. I appreciate the player Forrest has become and recognise that he’s had a really good campaign.

He’s never in his entire Celtic career done it consistently against the huns. Roberts is clearly the better overall player and should start on Sunday. If you’d rather play Forrest though to better nullify the threat of a nobody like Declan John then fair enough :lol:
Not my decision to make, that's our 'esteemed manager' as Brian Quinn said about another great manager.
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I do enjoy them both. I appreciate the player Forrest has become and recognise that he’s had a really good campaign.

He’s never in his entire Celtic career done it consistently against the huns. Roberts is clearly the better overall player and should start on Sunday. If you’d rather play Forrest though to better nullify the threat of a nobody like Declan John then fair enough :lol:
Not my decision to make, that's our 'esteemed manager' as Brian Quinn said about another great manager.
Even if Rodgers picks Forrest I doubt it will have anything to do with combating the threat of any of their players.
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Roberts hasn’t had a lot of game time and it’s not hard to figure out why. He’s been nowhere near the form of last season, simple as that. Forrest has had his best season for us but for a while now hasn’t been firing either. So it’s a choice between two players who are well short of their best.

I think Forrest will start on Sunday, not because he’s done enough in recent times but more because Roberts hasn’t done enough to oust him.
He's barley had the opportunity to stake a claim.

10 or 15 mins here or there or a start on a shampooey pitch in Hamilton isn't a fair gauge.

He's been fit for weeks and he's barely had a look in and that's not due to Forrest's great form as he's not been great recently.

Roberts was MOTM at Hamilton and won us a penalty in the SF from a cameo appearance.

He causes the Huns problems every time he plays them, whereas Forrest has never done he-haw against them and is unlikely to do anything if he starts at the weekend.

Why do you think Roberts hasn’t featured more? Do you think he’s been anywhere near last season’s form? Yes, he was decent at Hamilton on a day where nearly everybody else was way below what’s expected. I thought we would have seen more of Robets since he regained full fitness but it hasn’t happened and this at a time where Forrest has been well short of his earlier form it’s strange but there must be a reason.

No argument that Roberts has caused them more problems than Forrest but also no guarantee he’ll do it on Sunday if selected which wouldn’t have been the case last season. Even the most ardent Forrest fan would probably admit that on his game Roberts is the better player but as I mentioned neither is at the top of his game.

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He's barley had the opportunity to stake a claim.

10 or 15 mins here or there or a start on a shampooey pitch in Hamilton isn't a fair gauge.

He's been fit for weeks and he's barely had a look in and that's not due to Forrest's great form as he's not been great recently.

Roberts was MOTM at Hamilton and won us a penalty in the SF from a cameo appearance.

He causes the Huns problems every time he plays them, whereas Forrest has never done he-haw against them and is unlikely to do anything if he starts at the weekend.

Why do you think Roberts hasn’t featured more? Do you think he’s been anywhere near last season’s form? Yes, he was decent at Hamilton on a day where nearly everybody else was way below what’s expected. I thought we would have seen more of Robets since he regained full fitness but it hasn’t happened and this at a time where Forrest has been well short of his earlier form it’s strange but there must be a reason.

No argument that Roberts has caused them more problems than Forrest but also no guarantee he’ll do it on Sunday if selected which wouldn’t have been the case last season. Even the most ardent Forrest fan would probably admit that on his game Roberts is the better player but as I mentioned neither is at the top of his game.

Paddy got in last season and his form left Brendan unable to leave him out. This season he’s not much opportunity. Maybe Paddy hasn’t been producing in training.

Forrest is his preferred option, that much is clear.

Strange, that after saying we almost broke our transfer record last summer to sign Roberts - then he can’t get a sniff. Same with Musonda who we had been scouting for two years and fought off thirty other clubs to sign him - if you believe that of course

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Why do you think Roberts hasn’t featured more? Do you think he’s been anywhere near last season’s form? Yes, he was decent at Hamilton on a day where nearly everybody else was way below what’s expected. I thought we would have seen more of Robets since he regained full fitness but it hasn’t happened and this at a time where Forrest has been well short of his earlier form it’s strange but there must be a reason.

No argument that Roberts has caused them more problems than Forrest but also no guarantee he’ll do it on Sunday if selected which wouldn’t have been the case last season. Even the most ardent Forrest fan would probably admit that on his game Roberts is the better player but as I mentioned neither is at the top of his game.

Paddy got in last season and his form left Brendan unable to leave him out. This season he’s not much opportunity. Maybe Paddy hasn’t been producing in training.

Forrest is his preferred option, that much is clear.

Strange, that after saying we almost broke our transfer record last summer to sign Roberts - then he can’t get a sniff. Same with Musonda who we had been scouting for two years and fought off thirty other clubs to sign him - if you believe that of course

It's a mixture of injuries and Forrest having his best ever season. Paddy broke down against Killie at home, out for a wee bit then had a brilliant cameo in the LC final, then started the game at Fir Park, got injured again and missed nearly 4 months.

If we play a back 4 I'd play him against the huns, if we stick with last week's formation then I'd play Forrest. I'm not saying their LB is anything special but he does attack and Paddy wouldn't be the best at tracking back.
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Why do you think Roberts hasn’t featured more? Do you think he’s been anywhere near last season’s form? Yes, he was decent at Hamilton on a day where nearly everybody else was way below what’s expected. I thought we would have seen more of Robets since he regained full fitness but it hasn’t happened and this at a time where Forrest has been well short of his earlier form it’s strange but there must be a reason.

No argument that Roberts has caused them more problems than Forrest but also no guarantee he’ll do it on Sunday if selected which wouldn’t have been the case last season. Even the most ardent Forrest fan would probably admit that on his game Roberts is the better player but as I mentioned neither is at the top of his game.

Paddy got in last season and his form left Brendan unable to leave him out. This season he’s not much opportunity. Maybe Paddy hasn’t been producing in training.

Forrest is his preferred option, that much is clear.

Strange, that after saying we almost broke our transfer record last summer to sign Roberts - then he can’t get a sniff. Same with Musonda who we had been scouting for two years and fought off thirty other clubs to sign him - if you believe that of course

The league is all but won let's have Celtic men on the park when it's finally won.

Roberts' season has been a right off and I'm gutted at that but what's the point now ? We'll win on Sunday without him.

If giving him games meant he'd sign a contract I'd be all for it but I doubt he will be so, bench for Paddy.
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Theres been a wee bit of hope for the anti Forrest brigade since has gone off the boil. Quite pathetic.
I have never read such shampoo. Forrest passed to Rogic who did a bit of Magic and scored. Ah but Forrests pass was not really an assist.
Well feck me tell me how Rogic got the ball again? an assist is an assist is an assist.

I like both players but I believe that Paddy is a bigger threat to the Hun coming on as a sub.
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One thing is certain is Declan John would prefer Forrest to play. Roberts destroyed him over and over in 2-0 game and Forrest has been poor in the next 3
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James has been off his game for some weeks now. Paddy's loan comes to an end soon. I would start him, especially as he seems to raise his game against the huns.
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James has been off his game for some weeks now. Paddy's loan comes to an end soon. I would start him, especially as he seems to raise his game against the huns.
Or better still, have Roberts and Forrest play, drop sinclair.
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I see the myth that Forrest neutralises their offence is still being reeled out :lol:

They aren't "terrified" of him either. The only Celtic players that truly terrify them are Moussa and Rogic.
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