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James Forrest; he's awright so he is.
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Going by what my St Mirren supporting mate tells me. He likes to cut in from the left onto his right foot which I believe is his stronger foot.

Be happy to see Rodgers switching wingers around now and again but won't hold my breath.
Have to agree with this. In a few games when nothing was happening for us Rodgers changed nothing.An ocassional
switch of wingers e.g. a wee bit of route1 etc. might work for us but at least try something different.
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Going by what my St Mirren supporting mate tells me. He likes to cut in from the left onto his right foot which I believe is his stronger foot.

Be happy to see Rodgers switching wingers around now and again but won't hold my breath.
Have to agree with this. In a few games when nothing was happening for us Rodgers changed nothing.An ocassional
switch of wingers e.g. a wee bit of route1 etc. might work for us but at least try something different.
Thinking back to Dembele's goal at Ibrox a big punt worked a treat.
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Have to agree with this. In a few games when nothing was happening for us Rodgers changed nothing.An ocassional
switch of wingers e.g. a wee bit of route1 etc. might work for us but at least try something different.
Thinking back to Dembele's goal at Ibrox a big punt worked a treat.
That was an excellent pass, not a punt.
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I swear folk are delighted whenever James plays poor so they can slate him. Madness.

Roberts is the better player no doubt but he's shown nothing to get excited about either. Needs a start though.
It's equally maddening to see him start when he's playing poorly just because he played well at the turn of the year.

It's got to the stage whereby James deserves to be part of a title winning team over Roberts.
That really should never be a football 'stage'. It shouldn't come into it whatsoever.

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It's got to the stage whereby James deserves to be part of a title winning team over Roberts.
That really should never be a football 'stage'. It shouldn't come into it whatsoever.

Aye that’s mental talk, it’s a team game
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He needs a goal against them, had a few chances never took them. I like him starting against them as he works his socks off and then bring roberts on when they are tiring,
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He needs a goal against them, had a few chances never took them. I like him starting against them as he works his socks off and then bring roberts on when they are tiring,
Roberts absolutely terrorised them in the back to back games at the end of last season, the semi-final and the 5-1 game at Ibrox.

Forrest has yet to reach that level against the huns.

Worth remembering Paddy also won a penalty against them at Hampden a couple of weeks ago, he must start on Sunday.
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It's got to the stage whereby James deserves to be part of a title winning team over Roberts.
That really should never be a football 'stage'. It shouldn't come into it whatsoever.

He had that chance on Saturday.

Roberts is far more effective against them, and that should be the thought process when picking the team for Sunday.

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I thought Forrest did well v sevco in the last game.

He has tailed off a wee bit in terms of goals (his last one came on Feb 10th) but in the 12 games since he has provided 6 assists.

He has had a brilliant season.
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I thought Forrest did well v sevco in the last game.

He has tailed off a wee bit in terms of goals (his last one came on Feb 10th) but in the 12 games since he has provided 6 assists.

He has had a brilliant season.
I think he had a good two thirds.

The last 6 or 7 weeks he's been ok, nothing more.
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I thought Forrest did well v sevco in the last game.

He has tailed off a wee bit in terms of goals (his last one came on Feb 10th) but in the 12 games since he has provided 6 assists.

He has had a brilliant season.
I think he had a good two thirds.

The last 6 or 7 weeks he's been ok, nothing more.
I think he is still contributing, mate. He has tailed off a wee bit but Brendan will be looking at the fact Forrest is still chipping in with assists etc.

Hopefully he smashes one in on Sunday.
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I thought Forrest did well v sevco in the last game.

He has tailed off a wee bit in terms of goals (his last one came on Feb 10th) but in the 12 games since he has provided 6 assists.

He has had a brilliant season.
I think he had a good two thirds.

The last 6 or 7 weeks he's been ok, nothing more.
I think he is still contributing, mate. He has tailed off a wee bit but Brendan will be looking at the fact Forrest is still chipping in with assists etc.

Hopefully he smashes one in on Sunday.
Assists are quite misleading - for example 2 of these 6 are probably for Rogic against Rangers. They're as much assists as my helmet was.

Sinclair assists for Griffiths header at Hamilton. I think there's a measurable difference in these. Forrest play has dropped off, he has been in the main very good this season. Added to this drop in form his continued poor showings against Rangers remain a concern.



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I think he is still contributing, mate. He has tailed off a wee bit but Brendan will be looking at the fact Forrest is still chipping in with assists etc.

Hopefully he smashes one in on Sunday.
Assists are quite misleading - for example 2 of these 6 are probably for Rogic against Rangers. They're as much assists as my helmet was.

Sinclair assists for Griffiths header at Hamilton. I think there's a measurable difference in these. Forrest play has dropped off, he has been in the main very good this season. Added to this drop in form his continued poor showings against Rangers remain a concern.



Most of Forrest's best performances this season (and all but one of his goals) have been when he's played alongside an actual full-back prepared to get beyond him and make some space - definitely some correlation between Forrest's "loss of form" and the succession of back threes and makeshift full-backs we've used while Lustig has been injured/suspended/off form.

But the point remains that he's still be decent and making a contribution even if he's not quite been delivering as much as he did in the first half of the season....and the contenders for his starting slot (presumably Roberts and Musonda) haven't shown that much in their cameos so far to suggest they are going to offer more.

As always though, whatever noise us fans make about who should be in the team it's ultimately a judgement call for the manager over whether any of the fringe players are ready to step in and claim a slot. So far he seems to believe that Forrest is offering more than any of the alternatives do.
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I think he is still contributing, mate. He has tailed off a wee bit but Brendan will be looking at the fact Forrest is still chipping in with assists etc.

Hopefully he smashes one in on Sunday.
Assists are quite misleading - for example 2 of these 6 are probably for Rogic against Rangers. They're as much assists as my helmet was.

Sinclair assists for Griffiths header at Hamilton. I think there's a measurable difference in these. Forrest play has dropped off, he has been in the main very good this season. Added to this drop in form his continued poor showings against Rangers remain a concern.



They can be misleading, I agree. His assist v sevco at Ibrox was a nice flick but obviously Rogic made that goal himself.

Still I think a manager would look at these things and be pleased with Forrest's contribution.

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Assists are quite misleading - for example 2 of these 6 are probably for Rogic against Rangers. They're as much assists as my helmet was.

Sinclair assists for Griffiths header at Hamilton. I think there's a measurable difference in these. Forrest play has dropped off, he has been in the main very good this season. Added to this drop in form his continued poor showings against Rangers remain a concern.



Most of Forrest's best performances this season (and all but one of his goals) have been when he's played alongside an actual full-back prepared to get beyond him and make some space - definitely some correlation between Forrest's "loss of form" and the succession of back threes and makeshift full-backs we've used while Lustig has been injured/suspended/off form.

But the point remains that he's still be decent and making a contribution even if he's not quite been delivering as much as he did in the first half of the season....and the contenders for his starting slot (presumably Roberts and Musonda) haven't shown that much in their cameos so far to suggest they are going to offer more.

As always though, whatever noise us fans make about who should be in the team it's ultimately a judgement call for the manager over whether any of the fringe players are ready to step in and claim a slot. So far he seems to believe that Forrest is offering more than any of the alternatives do.
Of course it's down to the manager. It's a messageboard, we're having a debate. I'm hardly trying to convince Brendan.

Some players just don't perform in these matches, Forrest is one of them. It happens.

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He needs a goal against them, had a few chances never took them. I like him starting against them as he works his socks off and then bring roberts on when they are tiring,
Roberts absolutely terrorised them in the back to back games at the end of last season, the semi-final and the 5-1 game at Ibrox.

Forrest has yet to reach that level against the huns.

Worth remembering Paddy also won a penalty against them at Hampden a couple of weeks ago, he must start on Sunday.
Forrest was involved in two of the goals. Also their best attacker never crossed the half way line - they are scared of his pace.

How the eff can we not just enjoy both? Its a squad game and both have done and will do play a part against that mob.
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He needs a goal against them, had a few chances never took them. I like him starting against them as he works his socks off and then bring roberts on when they are tiring,
Roberts absolutely terrorised them in the back to back games at the end of last season, the semi-final and the 5-1 game at Ibrox.

Forrest has yet to reach that level against the huns.

Worth remembering Paddy also won a penalty against them at Hampden a couple of weeks ago, he must start on Sunday.
Forrest also assisted the 1st goal for Rogic & it was the speed of the pass which gave Rogic the chance, Sevco didn't cope with Forrest's 1st time pass (as well as Rogic did, Forrest/Dembele need credit too).

Forrest also won possession on the edge of our box, which quickly went up to Moussa for his penalty/Sevco red card. He needs credit for winning that tackle.

He had a nice one-two, with NtCham - which he pulled - but again, it was a good effort.

He certainly makes his contributions & deserves his place, even though he's not playing as well as earlier in the season.
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He had a nice one-two, with NtCham - which he pulled - but again, it was a good effort.

No it wasn't . It was a terrible effort, he missed the target from what 10 yards. He didn't even make the goalie make a save.

Even if you want to give him the assist for the 1st goal, which I think is generous considering Rogic had to wrong foot about 6 guys and put it in from 12 yards, we're now wanting him credit for winning a tackle? Is that a secondary assist?

Come on to eff. If he plays on Sunday he plays but there's definite gymnastics to make him appear anything but in much poorer form than of late and a continued disappointment against Rangers. Winning a tackle ffs.



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He had a nice one-two, with NtCham - which he pulled - but again, it was a good effort.

No it wasn't . It was a terrible effort, he missed the target from what 10 yards. He didn't even make the goalie make a save.

Even if you want to give him the assist for the 1st goal, which I think is generous considering Rogic had to wrong foot about 6 guys and put it in from 12 yards, we're now wanting him credit for winning a tackle? Is that a secondary assist?

Come on to eff. If he plays on Sunday he plays but there's definite gymnastics to make him appear anything but in much poorer form than of late and a continued disappointment against Rangers. Winning a tackle ffs.



yeah, tried to take it with the outside of his foot and got it all wrong.

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