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James Forrest; he's awright so he is.
Topic Started: 26 Feb 2015, 09:19 PM (517,846 Views)
only1henke
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Scotty_Bhoy_7
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I thought Forrest was better than Sinclair yesterday.
Forrest rarely beats a man, he just runs sideways like a crab :crabflute:

At least Sinclair turns and faces the man one on one and attempts to beat him.

Save a few moments this season (St Johnstone/Hearts) Forrest just doesn't have the ability to beat players.
What a load of shampooe! :lol:
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Seen a lot of folk saying he was very poor on Sunday but I actually thought he had a good game and gave us an attacking threat. His run and pass for Armstrongs chance showed his awareness has improved as well
Edited by Big_dave_greenock_1888, 25 Oct 2016, 02:48 PM.
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Would like to see Roberts back in to see if he can take his chance.

I think he deserves it. Forrest has been great this season but he's stagnated the last couple of games.
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Watched he re run of the second half and was really impressed with his work rate. Cant say i noticed much wrong with his first half when i watched it live but as the whole team played better in 2nd half i thought he was great. Pinned their full back deep into their own half but when play broke onto other wing and they attacked he was always tucking in supporting Lustig.

My only criticism was a few times cutting in from the wing that he didnt pick the pass to the midfielders running through at edge of box, he did it once that set up Armstrong where their tubby keeper saved it with his footy.

Still deserves his place in front of Roberts although id expect Roberts to get a run out on Wednesday.
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Off the boil last 2/3 games..resorting to old jamesy mode...Roberts is due a run now. Like to see him back in the team.

I get wingers and footballers generally lose form.

Probably change wont happen though.
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Some folk are clueless. Forrest was poor in the first half but very good in the second. Tactically he is very clever player and is vitally important for us.
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25 Oct 2016, 02:24 PM
Some folk are clueless. Forrest was poor in the first half but very good in the second. Tactically he is very clever player and is vitally important for us.
Last year he couldn't beat a man, now he's a master tactician

Brendan better keep on his toes or Jamesy Boy will be after his job.

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Regardless of Forrest's form (and he's been very good in the main) what has Roberts done to 'deserve' a start? I've seen it said from a few people and it's baffling me.
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PaulieWalnuts67
25 Oct 2016, 02:33 PM
Regardless of Forrest's form (and he's been very good in the main) what has Roberts done to 'deserve' a start? I've seen it said from a few people and it's baffling me.
He had a good 10 minutes against BMG :thumbsup:
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A dip in form doesn't mean he's back to "old Jamesie". He'd need to be useless for the best part of two years for that.

Even though he wasn't great overall on Sunday he still had some great moments. He puts the shampooers up the opposition with his pace. I'd probably play Roberts on Wednesday for the sake of squad rotation as this team has played a lot of games recently. A rest could be what he needs.
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One thing that I've noticed is that his floor is much higher--he was poor on Sunday in my opinion but he still put in a shift and did his job defensively competently. Rodgers is at once able to get the best out of players occasionally but in some cases also improve their worst.

Efe is obviously an exception to that rule :ph43r:
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PaulieWalnuts67
25 Oct 2016, 02:33 PM
Regardless of Forrest's form (and he's been very good in the main) what has Roberts done to 'deserve' a start? I've seen it said from a few people and it's baffling me.
How can you do anything to deserve a start when you're not getting an opportunity? :ponder:

He offers more than Forrest going forward but doesn't have the pace or defensive discipline to get back to help the full back. I can understand why Forrest is in front of him but I think some people are forgetting what Roberts brought to the side last season.

Maybe it's more to do with him being a loan player who will be going back at the end of the season.
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PaulieWalnuts67
25 Oct 2016, 02:33 PM
Regardless of Forrest's form (and he's been very good in the main) what has Roberts done to 'deserve' a start? I've seen it said from a few people and it's baffling me.
What about the fact he's a better player than Forrest? Rodgers himself stated that Roberts was playing great before he got injured but is just unfortunate that Forrest came in and took his chance. The whole "10 mins v BMG" thing is absolute nonsense as there'd have been no 10 minutes v BMG if not for Roberts in the first place.

I just find it staggering that based on 9 minute runs out we can then turn around and say "aye, but what has he actually done to deserve a start?" :lol:
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25 Oct 2016, 03:21 PM
What about the fact he's a better player than Forrest?
That's an opinion, not a fact.

I like Roberts by the way and would probably start him on Wednesday. Right now though, the place is Forrest's, on merit.
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PaulieWalnuts67
25 Oct 2016, 02:33 PM
Regardless of Forrest's form (and he's been very good in the main) what has Roberts done to 'deserve' a start? I've seen it said from a few people and it's baffling me.
What about the fact he's a better player than Forrest? Rodgers himself stated that Roberts was playing great before he got injured but is just unfortunate that Forrest came in and took his chance. The whole "10 mins v BMG" thing is absolute nonsense as there'd have been no 10 minutes v BMG if not for Roberts in the first place.

I just find it staggering that based on 9 minute runs out we can then turn around and say "aye, but what has he actually done to deserve a start?" :lol:
He started him away to Inverness and he got booted off the park.

Would like to see him get an opportunity at CP but that seems unlikely at the moment. Maybe Brendan thinks there is less opportunity for him to be exposed defensively on smaller pitches.

I'm not convinced he will start him tomorrow either.

don't get me wrong I'm delighted Forrest is back on form and won't lose sleep if he sticks with forrest - would just like to see Roberts get an opportunity to see if he can play his way into contention again.
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25 Oct 2016, 03:27 PM
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25 Oct 2016, 03:21 PM
What about the fact he's a better player than Forrest?
That's an opinion, not a fact.

I like Roberts by the way and would probably start him on Wednesday. Right now though, the place is Forrest's, on merit.
Yes but an opinion every sane person should hold ;)

I agree the place is Forrest's on merit. I argued that very point in the build up to the semi final.
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Kingslim
25 Oct 2016, 03:30 PM
McStay
25 Oct 2016, 03:21 PM
PaulieWalnuts67
25 Oct 2016, 02:33 PM
Regardless of Forrest's form (and he's been very good in the main) what has Roberts done to 'deserve' a start? I've seen it said from a few people and it's baffling me.
What about the fact he's a better player than Forrest? Rodgers himself stated that Roberts was playing great before he got injured but is just unfortunate that Forrest came in and took his chance. The whole "10 mins v BMG" thing is absolute nonsense as there'd have been no 10 minutes v BMG if not for Roberts in the first place.

I just find it staggering that based on 9 minute runs out we can then turn around and say "aye, but what has he actually done to deserve a start?" :lol:
He started him away to Inverness and he got booted off the park.

Would like to see him get an opportunity at CP but that seems unlikely at the moment. Maybe Brendan thinks there is less opportunity for him to be exposed defensively on smaller pitches.

I'm not convinced he will start him tomorrow either.

don't get me wrong I'm delighted Forrest is back on form and won't lose sleep if he sticks with forrest - would just like to see Roberts get an opportunity to see if he can play his way into contention again.
Aye, I'd prefer to see him at home too. Correct that he was booted off the park at Inverness but even then he went on some nice runs and set up a couple of chances that on another day would've been taken. Don't know if RC are as dirty as ICT but either way the bigger park at CP is always beneficial.

fwiw I think his lack of defensive cover is slightly overstated but I also think it's quite depressing if Celtic are deciding which attacker to play in domestic games v the likes of Ross County based on how good they are defensively. No problem with it at CL level though as quite clearly Forrest puts in a much better shift defensively.
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25 Oct 2016, 03:30 PM
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25 Oct 2016, 03:21 PM

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He started him away to Inverness and he got booted off the park.

Would like to see him get an opportunity at CP but that seems unlikely at the moment. Maybe Brendan thinks there is less opportunity for him to be exposed defensively on smaller pitches.

I'm not convinced he will start him tomorrow either.

don't get me wrong I'm delighted Forrest is back on form and won't lose sleep if he sticks with forrest - would just like to see Roberts get an opportunity to see if he can play his way into contention again.
Aye, I'd prefer to see him at home too. Correct that he was booted off the park at Inverness but even then he went on some nice runs and set up a couple of chances that on another day would've been taken. Don't know if RC are as dirty as ICT but either way the bigger park at CP is always beneficial.

fwiw I think his lack of defensive cover is slightly overstated but I also think it's quite depressing if Celtic are deciding which attacker to play in domestic games v the likes of Ross County based on how good they are defensively. No problem with it at CL level though as quite clearly Forrest puts in a much better shift defensively.
Wouldn't say it's depressing.

Great teams are just as effective when they don't have the ball. That's what makes them great.

Look at the work rate of the Barca team to win the ball back when they lose it despite dominating games.

If we want to be successful at the top level then we need to ensure there is consistency in that regard, so it becomes natural rather than thinking we can switch it on and off when we come up against better teams.
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remy mcswain
25 Oct 2016, 02:35 PM
PaulieWalnuts67
25 Oct 2016, 02:33 PM
Regardless of Forrest's form (and he's been very good in the main) what has Roberts done to 'deserve' a start? I've seen it said from a few people and it's baffling me.
He had a good 10 minutes against BMG :thumbsup:
James Forrest had a good 10 minutes in two years!
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adbhoy
25 Oct 2016, 03:48 PM
remy mcswain
25 Oct 2016, 02:35 PM
PaulieWalnuts67
25 Oct 2016, 02:33 PM
Regardless of Forrest's form (and he's been very good in the main) what has Roberts done to 'deserve' a start? I've seen it said from a few people and it's baffling me.
He had a good 10 minutes against BMG :thumbsup:
James Forrest had a good 10 minutes in two years!
No that's not correct.
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