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James Forrest; he's awright so he is.
Topic Started: 26 Feb 2015, 09:19 PM (517,858 Views)
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His attitude has turned around totally.

He gives everything he has now - no matter how things are going. Marked contrast to recent seasons.

I should question why a Celtic player would give less than his best in any situation but ,as my ethics go out the window when it comes to my team , I will content myself with the great improvement in a player I had given up on some time ago.
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He's playing better in parts, but as he's been so utterly garbage for the past few years, some people are going overboard with the praise when he does well. He's having a good run of form for now so enjoy it while it lasts
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Even at that Makay-Steven wasn't exactly great and it was always more likely that an in form Forrest would deliver more than him.
But he wasn't in form, in fact he'd been out of form for 3 years. Plenty thought he'd never get back to the level he's currently at. Forrest has had a complete turnaround but GMS had been far better than him before this season.
Mackay-Steven at his best was not and never would have been as good as Forrest at his best.

Forrest had six months left on his deal. No harm in letting Rodgers have a go with him. The last manager made a pig's ear of it.
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Revisionist nonsense!!! :arrr:

He's playing well now - let's not let that mask the truth of the last few seasons

He was mince
He was being managed by a couple of diddies. One of whom told him never to use the outside of his foot for shooting again. Forrest is a player who needs to be encouraged and feel wanted. Pulling his contract and benching him didn't help with that.

He has always had the ability and talent despite what many on here say about him.
I'd also add in constantly playing him out of position.
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He's playing better in parts, but as he's been so utterly garbage for the past few years, some people are going overboard with the praise when he does well. He's having a good run of form for now so enjoy it while it lasts
As much as people go overboard that he's been garbage for years! ;)

As for the shampooebag comment he's one of those players who's constantly kicked with no protection from the refs.
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2016/17 - 13 games, 4 goals, 3 assists.

Massive improvement. He's been excellent this season so far.
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He was being managed by a couple of diddies. One of whom told him never to use the outside of his foot for shooting again. Forrest is a player who needs to be encouraged and feel wanted. Pulling his contract and benching him didn't help with that.

He has always had the ability and talent despite what many on here say about him.
I don't think any on here have doubted his ability.

His attitude was/is the problem and add to that the fact he is a shampooebag.

I still don't think he is anywhere near good enough for Celtic and if he can only 'perform' for some managers rather than others then he shouldn't be with us.

He is having a good spell and I really do hope the talent you see come's to fruition, but I just see the same old thing happening with him - a good spell and then months of nothing/injured/hair flicking and petulant arm throwing.
Plenty on here doubted his ability. Go back and read through the thread.
And now you are saying he aways had the ability and talent then go on to say hes still not anywhere good enough for us :ponder:
You do not see the same old thing happening with him because it has not feckin happened.
Big celtic fan arent you :nono:
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But he wasn't in form, in fact he'd been out of form for 3 years. Plenty thought he'd never get back to the level he's currently at. Forrest has had a complete turnaround but GMS had been far better than him before this season.
A complete nonsense that he was out of form for 3 seasons. At the start of last season he was performing very well. One of our better performers in the CL qualifiers. He went off the boil and Deila froze him out after the contract was pulled.
If you go back to this thread from last year there were numerous folk giving him pelters despite the fact he was clearly one of our best players through the Cl qualifiers and early season games.

Some people can't see through their pig-Heided anger.
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Starting to look like the player he should have been since his breakthrough season.

Injuries and attitude have hampered his progress. Nothing else.
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Starting to look like the player he should have been since his breakthrough season.

Injuries and attitude have hampered his progress. Nothing else.
What else is there? :lol:
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Starting to look like the player he should have been since his breakthrough season.

Injuries and attitude have hampered his progress. Nothing else.
What else is there? :lol:
Well according to some managers who told him never to shoot with the outside of his foot :lol:
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Starting to look like the player he should have been since his breakthrough season.

Injuries and attitude have hampered his progress. Nothing else.
What else is there? :lol:
Well according to some managers who told him never to shoot with the outside of his foot :lol:
I know Remy is adamant but surely he was encouraged to use less outside of the foot shots rather than outright banned.

A decision like that wouldn't look out of place in the Sunday leagues.
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Well according to some managers who told him never to shoot with the outside of his foot :lol:
I know Remy is adamant but surely he was encouraged to use less outside of the foot shots rather than outright banned.

A decision like that wouldn't look out of place in the Sunday leagues.
Remy is almost Guidi-esque in his opinions!
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I know Remy is adamant but surely he was encouraged to use less outside of the foot shots rather than outright banned.

A decision like that wouldn't look out of place in the Sunday leagues.
Remy is almost Guidi-esque in his opinions!
Guidi isn't nearly always correct though.
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2015/16 - 33 games, 2 goals, 2 assists.

2016/17 - 13 games, 4 goals, 3 assists.

Massive improvement. He's been excellent this season so far.
He's like a new signing for us.

Long it may continue :rocker:
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I knew there was a decent player lurking within him. Glad to see it starting to come out regularly under Brendan.
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We all have our favourite players and if we're honest, have a tendency to overlook certain shortcomings they have. That's football and it's natural. I liked Forrest when he first broke through. He was fast, direct, had defenders, frightened of his pace, doubling up to try and stop him. He scored some cracking goals cutting inside onto his left foot.

Injury took its toll, he missed an awful lot of football and inevitably his form dipped. I could live with that but he developed an attitude, became lazy and made little or no impact for long enough. These players are paid a mint compared to the average working man and for any player not to put it all in is unaccceptable. Forrest was by no means the only one under Deila but that's not the point. Deila, for all his faults, at least realised Forrest needed a tailored rehabilitation programme and the player has hopefully put his persistent injury woes behind him.

In comes BR and he's been able to turn the form of more players than Forrest around. Attitude wise he's turned a corner too and is covering more ground, tracking back etc than I've ever seen from him. I really hope he stays injury free and continues to put in a shift on the pitch. I've got my favourite players and Forrest isn't one of them but it's great to see one of our players heading the right way again after such a long time when he only showed flashes of what he's all about when on his game.
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But he wasn't in form, in fact he'd been out of form for 3 years. Plenty thought he'd never get back to the level he's currently at. Forrest has had a complete turnaround but GMS had been far better than him before this season.
Mackay-Steven at his best was not and never would have been as good as Forrest at his best.

Forrest had six months left on his deal. No harm in letting Rodgers have a go with him. The last manager made a pig's ear of it.
We can go round in circles if you want, Forrest wasn't on form and he had 2 years left on his deal when GMS signed, over his first 18 months at Celtic GMS was far better than Forrest at the time.
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Mackay-Steven at his best was not and never would have been as good as Forrest at his best.

Forrest had six months left on his deal. No harm in letting Rodgers have a go with him. The last manager made a pig's ear of it.
We can go round in circles if you want, Forrest wasn't on form and he had 2 years left on his deal when GMS signed, over his first 18 months at Celtic GMS was far better than Forrest at the time.
'Far better' is stretching it. Mackay-Steven was rotten for most of last season after his dead cat bounce when he signed. There never has or ever will be the prospect of him being good enough. Which is why the manager tried to offload him.
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We can go round in circles if you want, Forrest wasn't on form and he had 2 years left on his deal when GMS signed, over his first 18 months at Celtic GMS was far better than Forrest at the time.
'Far better' is stretching it. Mackay-Steven was rotten for most of last season after his dead cat bounce when he signed. There never has or ever will be the prospect of him being good enough. Which is why the manager tried to offload him.
As I said before he had a run of ten games where he scored or assisted, so rotten is really stretching it. If you think Forrest was better than him over the previous 18 months then I think you're mental, but fair enough, let the revisionism begin, I'm just happy he's playing well. :thumbsup:
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