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James Forrest; he's awright so he is.
Topic Started: 26 Feb 2015, 09:19 PM (517,894 Views)
stephen_mch
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That's two good games from him now, but he's going to need to do a hell of a lot more to make up for the last couple of seasons.

I hope he does it, but I certainly wouldn't want him signing a new contract until he's shown he can do it consistently.
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Played well yesterday. If he carries on like that he'll likely get a good move when his contract expires.
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8 Aug 2016, 11:56 AM
I'll admit I've kinda closed my mind to Forrest & was hoping that he'd move on as it was looking that he would; just dont see him kicking on here & being effective in the squad, never mind the first team. Wingers always blow hot & cold but hes of another order. Its nothing personal with the guy, dont care hes always preening his hair, to me its about expectations of what players can contribute when moving up from development squad; he gives the impression of someone who is in a comfort zone and, given the amount of players who are regularly culled from the development squad, that isnt the right sort of impression Id want from those who do come up.

We need competitive players & Im sorry if Ive judged the guy harshly but wouldnt be offering a contract to him. That said if he does get a new contract I really hope he gets into double figures in goals & keeps injury free.
I think the majority on here feel the same. The problem is we've seen enough to accept that it's probably not going to happen.

If that makes me and you fannies then so be it. :(
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I think we are getting carried away with yesterday, he started extremely well but as the match wore on he gradually faded from the game. Thats a long way off for rectifying for the dross hes served up for years.
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Recorded the full game yesterday. BR says we are offering a new contract so it looks like wee Jamesy is here for a while. Told him (BR) in Slovenia he wants to stay as well. So unless Pistol makes a pigs ear of the chat with the agent - he stays.

Played reasonably well last two games. Forrest has been somewhat of a major let down last 2/3 years. Think injuries taken a toll but think attitude possibly as well has not been there. BR seems to be a fan so hopefully he gets him back on page and he gets his head down and be the player he promised 4/5 years go. Confidence is a major thing in life so heres hoping he now kicks on - its taken him a while I know!!
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Even a broken clock has a good game every now and then. Or is right, twice a day, something like that...
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Forrest is a major confidence player. If he lets his head go down then his performances are abysmal, but a we bit of confidence like yesterday and he becomes a major asset. I've never quite understood the clamour to get rid of him as we've always been light on wingers and he's hardly breaking the bank. He'll play second fiddle to Sinclair and Roberts anyway, but we need him for backup.
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Two good games in a row. Delighted to see it. More of the same please and we'll be singing the old lasagne tune.
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8 Aug 2016, 02:06 AM
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8 Aug 2016, 01:55 AM
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7 Aug 2016, 11:19 PM

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Did you see the game. if you did and thought he was horrendous that tells us an awful lot about you.
Check the MOM and then tell all of those who had Forrest in their top three( which was the majority ) they know eff all about the game.
because that is really what you are saying in your post.
I'll say it :arrr:

Anyone who had Forrest in their top 3 knows eff all and were somehow confused by a semi decent performance that they've turned it into something it was not - he was not better than Kolo Brown Tierney Lustig or O'conner for a start

I get people want him to be better than he is - want him to be the player Lennon said he was but he's not been - sorry - I dont want him to be shampooe but he has been

We need to stop hoping he turns in more than the odd moment and actually have a team that's capable of performing better than we have had in recent years - a decent game is welcome but it doesn't change much - he needs to do so much more and do it consistently - something I don't think he's done since 2011/12 season
He was our main (perhaps our only) attacking threat in the game.
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8 Aug 2016, 12:42 PM
I think we are getting carried away with yesterday, he started extremely well but as the match wore on he gradually faded from the game. Thats a long way off for rectifying for the dross hes served up for years.
He also played a full 90 which has been a bit unusual for him in recent years. He seems to be undergoing a bit of a renaissance under BR. Hes also working a lot harder off the ball and hunting defenders down which he did in his early days at us

You wonder what was going on with some of these players under Deila, Were they just totally undercooked for matches or did they 'chuck it'?
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8 Aug 2016, 04:20 PM
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8 Aug 2016, 12:42 PM
I think we are getting carried away with yesterday, he started extremely well but as the match wore on he gradually faded from the game. Thats a long way off for rectifying for the dross hes served up for years.
He also played a full 90 which has been a bit unusual for him in recent years. He seems to be undergoing a bit of a renaissance under BR. Hes also working a lot harder off the ball and hunting defenders down which he did in his early days at us

You wonder what was going on with some of these players under Deila, Were they just totally undercooked for matches or did they 'chuck it'?
I would suspect it was a culmination of everything.
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Kingslim
8 Aug 2016, 04:23 PM
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Hail!Hail!
8 Aug 2016, 12:42 PM
I think we are getting carried away with yesterday, he started extremely well but as the match wore on he gradually faded from the game. Thats a long way off for rectifying for the dross hes served up for years.
He also played a full 90 which has been a bit unusual for him in recent years. He seems to be undergoing a bit of a renaissance under BR. Hes also working a lot harder off the ball and hunting defenders down which he did in his early days at us

You wonder what was going on with some of these players under Deila, Were they just totally undercooked for matches or did they 'chuck it'?
I would suspect it was a culmination of everything.
I honestly think quite a few of them "chucked it". The Lennon clique especially. Brown, Mulgrew, Forrest, Commons, Bitton to name a few.

They did not fancy the manger and his assistant nor the training methods coupled with the signing policy of utter dross players (maybe not the managers fault at times - thanks Peter).

There really is nothing else that could have happened. Huge chunk of our support believe this - myself included. Says a lot about them and there make up about playing for the jersey etc but I fear that was the reality. No belief in the management so did not push more nor do more.

Tad controversial with no real science but some of the attitudes that were visible on the pitch last season by me and large portion of support(a few on this baord) make the "chucked it" theory plausible.

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Big_dave_greenock_1888
8 Aug 2016, 04:20 PM
Hail!Hail!
8 Aug 2016, 12:42 PM
I think we are getting carried away with yesterday, he started extremely well but as the match wore on he gradually faded from the game. Thats a long way off for rectifying for the dross hes served up for years.
He also played a full 90 which has been a bit unusual for him in recent years. He seems to be undergoing a bit of a renaissance under BR. Hes also working a lot harder off the ball and hunting defenders down which he did in his early days at us

You wonder what was going on with some of these players under Deila, Were they just totally undercooked for matches or did they 'chuck it'?
He had been injured most of his career and last season was the first full season I can remember him being relatively injury free.
This year he's completed a full pre season and is getting a bit of belief in himself.

Forrest is a talented player but it seemed as if injuries and loss of confidence had finished him but maybe its good timing with BR coming in and him getting the chance to prove himself.
If he can maintain this form then he is well worth keeping.
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Makes me wonder why such a clearly amazing has no suitors, with 4 months left of his contract?

I guess their scouts are all fannies too
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The boy done good v the wateries. If you think otherwise that's not being objective. Rodgers is a far superior gaffer than Ron. He takes no nonsense and that is one of the reasons players like Jamesie are showing. Never underestimate the fear factor. BR will have them all upping their game
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antonylockhart
8 Aug 2016, 04:36 PM
Makes me wonder why such a clearly amazing has no suitors, with 4 months left of his contract?

I guess their scouts are all fannies too
Maybe something to do with him being injured and playing fairly poorly last season, so his stock is down
Maybe he has had offers and turned them down, I'm sure James Forrest would get a contract somewhere.

Either way, he showed great promise as a youngster, became permanently injured and lost form - that I know from watching him.
He seems to be much better this season, more confident and BR (like every manager who has worked with him), seems to rate him

its early days, but I would hope he can continue to play well, because that would be good for Celtic
rather than, you know, deciding that he is shampooe and always has been regardless of how he actually plays.
Edited by Ess, 8 Aug 2016, 04:47 PM.
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antonylockhart
8 Aug 2016, 04:36 PM
Makes me wonder why such a clearly amazing has no suitors, with 4 months left of his contract?

I guess their scouts are all fannies too
How do you know if he has any 'suitors'? FFS.
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Played well yesterday although I thought he eventually reverted to type and started just running into his man. Still, it's a long road back from where he's been the last couple of seasons, and I've been encouraged by his start to the season. The terms of any new contract should be weighted in our favour as far as possible - he owes us. I still can't get over the fact that he's a professional athlete - the shape of his body is ridiculous at times. Look at him as he strikes the ball for the goal, and as he tries to keep up with Sinclair at the winner. He's put together in such a bizarre way, and I imagine (I'm no expert, believe it or not) it actually makes it difficult for him at times. He reminds me of Craig Beattie in the way his shoulders are up around his ears. Was it Strachan that thought Beattie was carrying an injury the first time he saw him in training and had to be told that's just the way he runs?
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Listening to BR, he likes players with pace. Forrest has the pace and as yesterday showed, he can finish with either foot!
However he lacks a trick or two to beat a man and his game intelligence isn't great either.
If he gets a new deal he will have to improve his all round game if he wants to last longer than a season or two.
Would not be surprised if he was still allowed to leave in January, BR might be working him a bit the way MON did with Bobby Petta for a while :thumbsup:
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8 Aug 2016, 08:22 AM
Everyone's a floof except Remy. And that weejimmy chap.

The rest of us are smelly, hairy fannies because James Forrest had his first 7/10 performance for 4 years. The Oracle has spoken, any argument to the contrary will be met with glib, snarky comments and smugness until James' next disinterested, anonymous showing. At which point he'll be joined in anonymity by his white knights. Again.
Is there another type of floof?
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