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James Forrest; he's awright so he is.
Topic Started: 26 Feb 2015, 09:19 PM (517,925 Views)
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26 Jun 2016, 06:22 PM
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what have we got to lose?
A transfer fee.
He is potentially worth a lot more if we allow Rodgers some time to work with him. Plus - I'm guessing if he does go that he'll be happy to see out the last six months and leave on a free.
The Forrest of 5 seasons ago aye. We're talking about a guy with 12 league goals in 4 seasons who has averaged around 16 league games a season in the same time.

I'd give him pre season to prove himself then punt him before the window shuts if he hasn't played well.
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If you agree he has undoubted talent why did you feel the need to ridicule it? If he didn't have talent then I'd say to get rid asap. He does though - that has never been the issue. It is a lack confidence on the back of not playing a run of games through injury. If (and I agree it's a big if) he can get fully fit then I see no reason why Rodgers shouldn't at least be given an opportunity to see if he can get the best out of him.
I don't agree. If he had "undoubted talent" then the majority of this board would be on his side instead of on his case.

He looked promising about 6 years ago when he burst onto the scene. He hasn't developed as well as we'd have hoped and now offers too little to the side to warrant new contracts and regular games.

Like I say, he's 25 in under 2 weeks and we're still talking about his potential.
He will be away in six months - for nothing. I see no reason why we can't give him a chance to work with the new manager with a view to earning a new contract.
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The concern for me is if he hits a purple patch at the start of the season, signs a new long term deal then goes back to being pish again.
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Equally bizarre are those who are happy to see the club waste a wage we could use to get a better player :nono:

Any "talent" he had is gone. Though I wouldn't class pace as a talent. He has regressed alarmingly and it would be astonishing if he turns around his Celtic career. He is shampooe and shampooe should be shown the door.

Other than Karagandy a few years back, and scoring the second in the league cup final, he has done eff all of note or worthy of being offered a new contract. Cut him loose
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I don't agree. If he had "undoubted talent" then the majority of this board would be on his side instead of on his case.

He looked promising about 6 years ago when he burst onto the scene. He hasn't developed as well as we'd have hoped and now offers too little to the side to warrant new contracts and regular games.

Like I say, he's 25 in under 2 weeks and we're still talking about his potential.
He will be away in six months - for nothing. I see no reason why we can't give him a chance to work with the new manager with a view to earning a new contract.
this. plus theres nothing to say we have even had a bid for him anyway so not sure what people are expecting to have happened at this stage

i think theres a chance he could do well in rodgers team even as a squad/impact sub
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He will be away in six months - for nothing. I see no reason why we can't give him a chance to work with the new manager with a view to earning a new contract.
I see no reason to waste hours and hours of the coaching teams time and paying wages to him for six months. He has no interest in staying.

If he has an even half decent 6 months he will be off regardless of what contract might be offered.

He will end up at a Blackburn/Derby or the likes for £10k a week more than he is worth.

There is more benefit to Celtic in investing the coaching time in an up and coming player from within the youth ranks or another fringe player who wants to contribute to Celtic.

Forrest should be as close to the first team squad for the next 6 months as Anthony Stokes was all last year.
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He will be away in six months - for nothing. I see no reason why we can't give him a chance to work with the new manager with a view to earning a new contract.
I see no reason to waste hours and hours of the coaching teams time and paying wages to him for six months. He has no interest in staying.

If he has an even half decent 6 months he will be off regardless of what contract might be offered.

He will end up at a Blackburn/Derby or the likes for £10k a week more than he is worth.

There is more benefit to Celtic in investing the coaching time in an up and coming player from within the youth ranks or another fringe player who wants to contribute to Celtic.

Forrest should be as close to the first team squad for the next 6 months as Anthony Stokes was all last year.
Yes he has.
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Seen this in the papers today. Celtic shouldn't waste their time on this fud. No interest in staying with us and he's been pish when he's fit anyway. Punt.
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See this no interested in playing with us pish.

Do you all think Brendan Rodgers is a feckin eejit that is going to waste time on someone that doesn't want to stay. Give the manager some credit ffs, im pretty sure he'll have already spoken to Forrest.
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26 Jun 2016, 12:00 PM
Would anyone care if Forrest signed for sevco?

He is not currently available on a free transfer.

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Forrest is only a few months older than Scott Allen. Why is one given a free pass when the other isn't?

Forrest has far more experience than Allen and should be kept.
Edited by GetFunky, 26 Jun 2016, 11:24 PM.
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He will be away in six months - for nothing. I see no reason why we can't give him a chance to work with the new manager with a view to earning a new contract.
I see no reason to waste hours and hours of the coaching teams time and paying wages to him for six months. He has no interest in staying.

If he has an even half decent 6 months he will be off regardless of what contract might be offered.

He will end up at a Blackburn/Derby or the likes for £10k a week more than he is worth.

There is more benefit to Celtic in investing the coaching time in an up and coming player from within the youth ranks or another fringe player who wants to contribute to Celtic.

Forrest should be as close to the first team squad for the next 6 months as Anthony Stokes was all last year.
Yes he has.
No, he turned down a contract so there is proof he has no interest.

Make him train with the development squad. It's more than he deserves.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepHe has no interest in staying.

If he has an even half decent 6 months he will be off regardless of what contract might be offered.

He will end up at a Blackburn/Derby or the likes for £10k a week more than he is worth.

There is more benefit to Celtic in investing the coaching time in an up and coming player from within the youth ranks or another fringe player who wants to contribute to Celtic.

Forrest should be as close to the first team squad for the next 6 months as Anthony Stokes was all last year.
Yes he has.
No, he turned down a contract so there is proof he has no interest.

Make him train with the development squad. It's more than he deserves.
The contract was withdrawn because his agent was acting the carrot.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepHe has no interest in staying.
No, he turned down a contract so there is proof he has no interest.

Make him train with the development squad. It's more than he deserves.
The contract was withdrawn because his agent was acting the carrot.
That's a rubbish excuse, the fact remains Forrest didn't sign what was put in front of him. He could have easily found another agent.

If he really wanted to stay he would have signed before now.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepHe has no interest in staying.
The contract was withdrawn because his agent was acting the carrot.
That's a rubbish excuse, the fact remains Forrest didn't sign what was put in front of him. He could have easily found another agent.

If he really wanted to stay he would have signed before now.
It's not an excuse.

Forrest hadn't decided on the deal he was offered.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepHe has no interest in staying.
The contract was withdrawn because his agent was acting the carrot.
That's a rubbish excuse, the fact remains Forrest didn't sign what was put in front of him. He could have easily found another agent.

If he really wanted to stay he would have signed before now.
not if it was withdrawn he wouldnt.

99.9% of people will reject the first contract offer. itd be rather daft to accept it
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepHe has no interest in staying.
That's a rubbish excuse, the fact remains Forrest didn't sign what was put in front of him. He could have easily found another agent.

If he really wanted to stay he would have signed before now.
not if it was withdrawn he wouldnt.

99.9% of people will reject the first contract offer. itd be rather daft to accept it
This wasn't his first offer either.

A few folk seem to have suggested that Forrest and Deila had a fall out and the final offer was taken off the table.

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26 Jun 2016, 11:29 PM
Forrest hadn't decided on the deal he was offered.
What? :ponder:

I think you fundamentally miss how the agent relationship works. The player instructs the agent, the player makes the final decision, not the agent.

If the player wants to sign he signs regardless of what the agent wants.
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