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James Forrest; he's awright so he is.
Topic Started: 26 Feb 2015, 09:19 PM (517,951 Views)
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paulfg42
25 Feb 2016, 10:29 AM
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25 Feb 2016, 10:16 AM
paulfg42
25 Feb 2016, 10:13 AM

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It's the one you quoted :lol:
I don't think I've ever denied that Lennon played him on the 'wrong' side :suspect: , although I seem to remember that the wide players would switch wings during games too.

I've said (on the Deila thread?) that I don't like the opposite wings formation - it was dull viewing under Strachan and I didn't enjoy it under Lennon and it's worse now under Deila as he has the full backs so far up the pitch in support that we're left exposed at the back.

I'm not sure any of that negates my point: that Lennon got far more out of Forrest than Deila has, wherever he has played.
Celtic Joe was moaning earlier Ronny has ruined Forrest by playing him out left.

People pointing out Lennon - who got the most out of him - played him on the left more often than not.

Nothing in this really, you've both made the same point. Only Joe is wrong.

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25 Feb 2016, 10:30 AM
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25 Feb 2016, 10:29 AM
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25 Feb 2016, 10:16 AM

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I don't think I've ever denied that Lennon played him on the 'wrong' side :suspect: , although I seem to remember that the wide players would switch wings during games too.

I've said (on the Deila thread?) that I don't like the opposite wings formation - it was dull viewing under Strachan and I didn't enjoy it under Lennon and it's worse now under Deila as he has the full backs so far up the pitch in support that we're left exposed at the back.

I'm not sure any of that negates my point: that Lennon got far more out of Forrest than Deila has, wherever he has played.
Celtic Joe was moaning earlier Ronny has ruined Forrest by playing him out left.

People pointing out Lennon - who got the most out of him - played him on the left more often than not.

Nothing in this really, you've both made the same point. Only Joe is wrong.

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If Forrest under Lenny was getting the most out of him, when even then he was largely hopeless, I cannot see him ever improving. No loss to us at all, genuinely baffled as to what people see in this diddy
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25 Feb 2016, 10:29 AM
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25 Feb 2016, 10:16 AM
paulfg42
25 Feb 2016, 10:13 AM

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It's the one you quoted :lol:
I don't think I've ever denied that Lennon played him on the 'wrong' side :suspect: , although I seem to remember that the wide players would switch wings during games too.

I've said (on the Deila thread?) that I don't like the opposite wings formation - it was dull viewing under Strachan and I didn't enjoy it under Lennon and it's worse now under Deila as he has the full backs so far up the pitch in support that we're left exposed at the back.

I'm not sure any of that negates my point: that Lennon got far more out of Forrest than Deila has, wherever he has played.
A point I agreed with!

You disagreed with my post, I'll surmise that's why you quoted me.
I'd quoted Celtic joes post as its ridiculous to say that Ronny is to blame for Forrests issues.
Neil played him there continually and he had some cracking games for us.

You seem to miss the point on anything to do with Ronny recently, everything is not his fault.

A lot of things are right enough, but not Forrest not giving a eff.

Edit: what Flawless said :lol:
Edited by AtLeastIDontWorkInAmazon, 25 Feb 2016, 10:49 AM.
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25 Feb 2016, 10:35 AM
If Forrest under Lenny was getting the most out of him, when even then he was largely hopeless, I cannot see him ever improving. No loss to us at all, genuinely baffled as to what people see in this diddy
Which wide player at Celtic is better than him when on form? Show your working as well.
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25 Feb 2016, 12:38 AM
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25 Feb 2016, 12:29 AM
so what do we think he is worth ( with a year left on his contract ) ? 4 million ?
:rubeyes: Be very lucky to get £750,000 and that's pushing it.
Yip doubt it if Lenny could even scrape that much up for him :ph43r:
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I'm not sure why there is all the ill will. When he is form he is a crackin wee player. It's went a bit pear shaped with the injuries. Probably realizing football is a short career he is probably seeing what the market is wiling to pay. He has been one of the best players to come out of the youth system in the last 10 years.
Utter drivel.

I don't think his potential wasn't realised, he was found out. His injuries just masked that fact.

He was and always will be a shampoobag.
What other youth player has had so many appearances and been able to play at Champions League level.
James is still a youth player :rubeyes:
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25 Feb 2016, 12:13 PM
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25 Feb 2016, 10:35 AM
If Forrest under Lenny was getting the most out of him, when even then he was largely hopeless, I cannot see him ever improving. No loss to us at all, genuinely baffled as to what people see in this diddy
Which wide player at Celtic is better than him when on form? Show your working as well.
Apart from Derk we don't have any other out and out wingers? Hardly tough competition.
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25 Feb 2016, 10:35 AM
If Forrest under Lenny was getting the most out of him, when even then he was largely hopeless, I cannot see him ever improving. No loss to us at all, genuinely baffled as to what people see in this diddy
Which wide player at Celtic is better than him when on form? Show your working as well.
You lost me at 'on form' :lol:
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24 Feb 2016, 07:17 PM
Aaron Lennon seems to be doing ok too.
Correct. However, let's not get carried away with Forrest's pace. It's decent at best.

He's quick enough to give Right/left-backs a problem here, but that's it. Very rarely if ever did his pace get us out of trouble outside Scotland.
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22 Feb 2016, 03:33 PM
A better manager would have got more out of him.
I don't buy that. He was already Mr Inconsistent under Lennon.

Other players - Griffiths, Rogic - have managed to do OK under Deila for all his tactical naivety and incompetence.
2 players ffs. The stats posted earlier show Lennon got a lot more out of Forrest than Deila has. Our team under Deila is full of underperforming and inconsistent players.
Forrest got plenty of stick when Lennon was manager - there are plenty of post match threads from the time to back it up. Questions about Forrest ever realising his potential did not begin under Deila.
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His pace is massively exaggerated. He's certainly slower than he used to be, and I'm not sure even his pre-injury speed would be noted down south.

Guys like Lennon and Walcott are able to get by on their speed alone because they're genuinely rapid - and direct. Forrest is neither of those.

I do think he could do a tidy, Ross Wallace esq job in the Championship, though.

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Pretty sure people here hated it when Lennon played Forrest on the left, because he was pish there. And it only happened a handful of times.
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25 Feb 2016, 10:35 AM
If Forrest under Lenny was getting the most out of him, when even then he was largely hopeless, I cannot see him ever improving. No loss to us at all, genuinely baffled as to what people see in this diddy
Which wide player at Celtic is better than him when on form? Show your working as well.
Apart from Derk we don't have any other out and out wingers? Hardly tough competition.
I didn't say wingers. I said wide players.

You can play the same position and perform a different role. GMS is also a winger.
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25 Feb 2016, 02:17 PM
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25 Feb 2016, 12:13 PM

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Apart from Derk we don't have any other out and out wingers? Hardly tough competition.
I didn't say wingers. I said wide players.

You can play the same position and perform a different role. GMS is also a winger.
Given that GMS has a better return in the same position this season, I don't really see the argument. Neither are playing particularly well, but even as shampoo as they've been this season, Forrest is the shampootiest
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I didn't say wingers. I said wide players.

You can play the same position and perform a different role. GMS is also a winger.
Given that GMS has a better return in the same position this season, I don't really see the argument. Neither are playing particularly well, but even as shampoo as they've been this season, Forrest is the shampootiest
I'm not getting into this if that's all you've got. I'd recommend you buy this.

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I'll predict when Patrick Roberts settles in, the Forrest v GMS comparison will be forgotten about.
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25 Feb 2016, 06:07 PM
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Given that GMS has a better return in the same position this season, I don't really see the argument. Neither are playing particularly well, but even as shampoo as they've been this season, Forrest is the shampootiest
I'm not getting into this if that's all you've got. I'd recommend you buy this.

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