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| James Forrest; he's awright so he is. | |
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| Topic Started: 26 Feb 2015, 09:19 PM (517,953 Views) | |
| Chako | 24 Feb 2016, 01:43 PM Post #2581 |
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First-team starter
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His injuries just masked that fact. Sadly, I have to agree with that. James, where did it all go wrong? |
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| randombloke | 24 Feb 2016, 01:54 PM Post #2582 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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His most productive season was 2011/12 with 9 goals in 46 games, followed by 2013/14 when he scored 6 in 27. Other than those seasons he's been averaging 25 appearances and 3 or 4 goals per year. In 2011/2 he looked like a real prospect - like I said in a earlier post he was really good at driving in from the edge of the box and his pace absolutely terrified defenders. In addition to the goals he scored us a handful of penalties and many free kicks around the box that resulted in goals for others in the team. But sadly over the space of those first couple of seasons he had that drive and energy kicked out of him while refs turned a blind eye - the tag team treatment he got at Fir Park stands out in my memory as a particularly disgusting example of everything that is wrong about the Scottish game. So after several injuries he seems to have lost his confidence now and rather than running directly at defenders he either stays out wide or knocks the ball ahead of him rather than take the kick. He may actually flourish in another league where players actually get punished for serious foul play rather than getting three free kicks at an opponent before even getting a finger wagging from the ref. |
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| esme stuart | 24 Feb 2016, 02:05 PM Post #2583 |
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Occasional Substitute
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It's hardly Dalglish or Hay...or Nicholas or McClair...or McGeady or Maloney ...or John Colquhoun or Ross Wallace for that matter! Gloria Gaynor CFC |
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| Hoops For Me All The Way | 24 Feb 2016, 02:15 PM Post #2584 |
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You want equality? Consider if that person feels Equal.
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Good, well thought out post, which sums things up very well. Wouldn't really disagree with any of it at all. It's just really disappointing. |
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| only1henke | 24 Feb 2016, 02:19 PM Post #2585 |
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Getting on a bit
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I do feel some are being really harsh here. Comparatively, an on-form James Forrest is better than any other wide player at the club. Shame he's not remotely consistent and injuries have ruined the chance to ever be consistent. He'll do a good job for a Norwich or the like at the bottom end of the Prem or top end of the Championship, providing he stays fit. |
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| Lubo's Left Boot 2012 Ltd. | 24 Feb 2016, 02:45 PM Post #2586 |
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First-team starter
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What other youth player has had so many appearances and been able to play at Champions League level. |
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| Celtic Joe | 24 Feb 2016, 02:52 PM Post #2587 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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Forrest will do a good job for the likes of Norwich because their manager tends to play his pacy right wingers on the right wing. He’s still fast enough to give most left backs a hard time. But against right backs he mostly has to cut inside, where there is a danger of giving up possession and sparking an opposition counter attack. I can’t understand the venom towards a young player who has had a hard time with injuries and is having his career wrecked by our current clown of a “tactical genius” manager. Thanks for Karagandy, James. |
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| dannyclyro | 24 Feb 2016, 02:56 PM Post #2588 |
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Like you can smell the psychosphere
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He's not good enough to play for even a bottom-three EPL side. He is fast, but makes the wrong decision too often. That's when he's fit, which isn't too often. Losing a player who doesn't play regularly for us is not a great loss. The only disappointing thing is once again we have waited until it's too late to find out he wants to go, and will now get nothing. If he didn't want to sign a new by the end of last season, he should have been punted in the summer of 2015. |
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| ghirl86 | 24 Feb 2016, 03:03 PM Post #2589 |
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Brendan Rodgers, make us dream - Celtic FC.
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Best for all if he goes. He lacks the heart needed and more often than not looks disinterested in pushing himself and taking control of a game. His continuous cutting inside even when played on the right is infuriating. |
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| McStay | 24 Feb 2016, 03:09 PM Post #2590 |
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Espanyolification
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Exactly. Fast might get you a career up here. It won't in the EPL. |
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| timbojon | 24 Feb 2016, 03:10 PM Post #2591 |
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jonny nae pals
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would it not be better for him to wait and see who the new manager is and what his plans are, if he doest fancy it then explore his options ? |
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| only1henke | 24 Feb 2016, 03:20 PM Post #2592 |
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Getting on a bit
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Really? There's millions of dross who have made careers in the EPL. Far worse players than Forrest. |
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| fatboab | 24 Feb 2016, 03:28 PM Post #2593 |
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Just before the Dawn
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Prize Exhibit M'Lord, I give you Theo Walcott. |
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| Flawless | 24 Feb 2016, 03:38 PM Post #2594 |
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Fatboab shirt designer
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I don't like wingers on the wrong side that much. It's hardly the concept of Ronny though. Every bloody manager in the planet just about does it. The guy who got the most from Forrest did it all the time. |
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| McStay | 24 Feb 2016, 03:39 PM Post #2595 |
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Espanyolification
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Theo Walcott is pish yet he's much better than Forrest... https://streamable.com/eamo Forrest would probably put that out for a throw
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| fatboab | 24 Feb 2016, 03:42 PM Post #2596 |
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Just before the Dawn
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Arsenal are pish, but they're much better than Celtic Your point was that speed alone won't get you a career in the EPL. I think Walcott disproves that theory. |
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| Dubz | 24 Feb 2016, 03:52 PM Post #2597 |
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Getting on a bit
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You can add Raheem Sterling to that as well. |
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| green_equals_silver | 24 Feb 2016, 03:52 PM Post #2598 |
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Bobinho9
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Bit harsh on Walcott, he always turns in a decent performance when he's looking for a new contract. Aaron Lennon and Andros Townsend would be my go-to fast pish footballers. |
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| Dubz | 24 Feb 2016, 03:59 PM Post #2599 |
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Getting on a bit
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Or what about pish players who have no pace. There was a striker called Carlton somethin or other who made a decent living from the EPL. |
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| Wailer | 24 Feb 2016, 04:51 PM Post #2600 |
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Rebel music.
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Ruh roh. Ronny Deila insists James Forrest can still have a future at Celtic despite turning down a "really good" offer of a new four-year contract. The Scotland midfielder's current deal ends in December, so he could sign a pre-contract agreement in the summer. Deila would like him to stay, but does not believe the situation will affect Forrest, 24, or the team. "It's not a big deal. We have other players who are not on long contracts and they're here to do a job," he said. "We want to keep James, but this happens all the time for different players. We'll see what happens during the season. "It's not like now there's nothing going to happen. You never know in football, but he has rejected it and we have to take that forward and we know he has one year left on his contract. "I haven't talked with James about these things. He's part of this squad, he has been for many years, we wanted to keep him here, but this is an issue between club and the player. "We got a 'no' from that offer that we felt was really good and we just have to keep on. They have stretched us along, in our opinion, but it's no problem. "There are a lot of options and James has to show his best side for his future and we need the best out of everybody for our goals." http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35653538?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter |
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