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James Forrest; he's awright so he is.
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Topic Started: 26 Feb 2015, 09:19 PM (518,073 Views)
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Willie Wonka
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2 Mar 2015, 08:54 PM
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Don't get the negativity on here a lot have for him. He's had a crap two seasons with injuries but when he is fully fit he is direct, scores goals and can easily skin defenders. If he was fit he would be playing every week but for how long we can keep paying him when he isn't fit is another question. Lad must be peeved how things have been over the last two years. I hope he gets back soon.
Agreed on all this, but I am not sure hopes will be realized. He's got competition wide on the right and looks nowhere near as fast, direct, defender-skinning or goal hammering as he used to be. No idea whether it's a reversible condition or not, but I'd have GMS out wide right all day long over him as it stands, and even have Matthews there when (if) Lustig gets fit. Murdered a tiring motherwell defence last month, played well against St mirren the month before. Problem was there was another injury outage in between and since. He's still got it, whether he says fit long enough to show it regularly is the only question for me.
Don't stick him on the left again though .... please. Spent about 30 secs on the right v hamilton and put half their defence on their arses.
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2 Mar 2015, 09:24 PM
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Don't get the negativity on here a lot have for him. He's had a crap two seasons with injuries but when he is fully fit he is direct, scores goals and can easily skin defenders. If he was fit he would be playing every week but for how long we can keep paying him when he isn't fit is another question. Lad must be peeved how things have been over the last two years. I hope he gets back soon. Until 4 weeks ago, if he was fit he played. For about 3 years he was straight into the team under Lennon and Deila. He is obviously rated highly.
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2 Mar 2015, 09:27 PM
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Do you have a link, out of interest?
I could find it if you really don't believe me. But it would be better if you either just accepted it, or you could believe its exactly the kind of lie I have been keeping for just such a thread and saw my chance to gain credibility on the internet with my false Brown / Forrest trump card. It was on Celtic tv, not too long ago - He was asked a lot of questions, one of them was who is the most skillful player and he said emphatically Forrest, I think he also went on to say something about how he could do things with the ball that were special. Why do you find it so difficult to believe? Ess,
If he has, and from what I have seen, over a long period of time, he has kept it well hidden. Scott Brown or no Scott Brown.
Inter alia, he has pace to burn, and he uses is it sparingly.
He is not nearly the player he could be, injuries aside.
He must take responsibility on the pitch. There are innumerable times when he has not. Over a long period of time.
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Ess
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2 Mar 2015, 09:54 PM
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I could find it if you really don't believe me. But it would be better if you either just accepted it, or you could believe its exactly the kind of lie I have been keeping for just such a thread and saw my chance to gain credibility on the internet with my false Brown / Forrest trump card. It was on Celtic tv, not too long ago - He was asked a lot of questions, one of them was who is the most skillful player and he said emphatically Forrest, I think he also went on to say something about how he could do things with the ball that were special. Why do you find it so difficult to believe?
Ess, If he has, and from what I have seen, over a long period of time, he has kept it well hidden. Scott Brown or no Scott Brown. Inter alia, he has pace to burn, and he uses is it sparingly. He is not nearly the player he could be, injuries aside. He must take responsibility on the pitch. There are innumerable times when he has not. Over a long period of time. My worry is that injuries will take their toll on him, you may be right he may never reach his potential. He can be frustrating at times, occasionally brilliant.
But I think its way too soon to judge him yet, he needs a run of games.
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2 Mar 2015, 09:59 PM
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Ess, If he has, and from what I have seen, over a long period of time, he has kept it well hidden. Scott Brown or no Scott Brown. Inter alia, he has pace to burn, and he uses is it sparingly. He is not nearly the player he could be, injuries aside. He must take responsibility on the pitch. There are innumerable times when he has not. Over a long period of time.
My worry is that injuries will take their toll on him, you may be right he may never reach his potential. He can be frustrating at times, occasionally brilliant. But I think its way too soon to judge him yet, he needs a run of games. I just think his body wont allow him to realise his potential. Like Darren Anderton ,keiron dyer n the late phil o donnell (rip) some people just don't have the genes to conquer the rigors of the modern game . Shame but it happens
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2 Mar 2015, 10:14 PM
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2 Mar 2015, 10:17 PM
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- Joe the Baker
- 2 Mar 2015, 06:48 PM
Maybe there is a reason that Lennon and now Deila keep throwing Forrest back into the side when he returns from his injuries, maybe they can both see what he has to offer the side.
Deila clearly hasn't put Forrest straight back into the team though
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2 Mar 2015, 10:35 PM
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Was never that special on the first place. Could have been a decent player, but has a horrible attitude on the pitch coupled with injuries so he should be punted.
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2 Mar 2015, 10:37 PM
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Maybe there is a reason that Lennon and now Deila keep throwing Forrest back into the side when he returns from his injuries, maybe they can both see what he has to offer the side.
Deila clearly hasn't put Forrest straight back into the team though Why the confusion ?
Deila has used Forrest on a number of occasions this season, most recently on Thursday, reading between the lines here but I'm guessing that the reason for that was because Deila believed Forrest could do a job.
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Bobby Peru
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2 Mar 2015, 10:39 PM
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- Joe the Baker
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Maybe there is a reason that Lennon and now Deila keep throwing Forrest back into the side when he returns from his injuries, maybe they can both see what he has to offer the side.
Deila clearly hasn't put Forrest straight back into the team though
Why the confusion ? Deila has used Forrest on a number of occasions this season, most recently on Thursday, reading between the lines here but I'm guessing that the reason for that was because Deila believed Forrest could do a job. Seems like two different things. Lenny pretty much always had Forrest straight back in the starting line up when fit, possibly to the player's detriment at times, RD hasn't, he only came off the bench on Thursday. I'm sure RD thinks he can do a job but at the moment he definitely seems to believe there are 3 or 4 who can do it better.
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2 Mar 2015, 10:41 PM
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- 2 Mar 2015, 12:34 PM
Adam Matthews has been out of sorts for a while after coming back from injury. Of late, he's had a run in the team and his pace and confidence appear to be back and he is coming back to the form we know he is capable of.
Forrest could do the same.
I agree, but the main reason Matthews is in the team is because of Lustig's injury. Forrest will need something similiar to happen, in a more sought after position, to get an extended run now.
A fit Forrest is a far better player than Gary Mackay-Steven. That's not even remotely true.
GMS has done as much in his few starts as Forrest has since his hoops debut.
The amount of people that think James Forrest is a cracking player *when fit must have watched different games from me.
I can hardly remember any performances from him that made you genuinely excited. Average at best, rotten or injured the rest of the time.
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2 Mar 2015, 10:44 PM
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Why the confusion ? Deila has used Forrest on a number of occasions this season, most recently on Thursday, reading between the lines here but I'm guessing that the reason for that was because Deila believed Forrest could do a job.
Seems like two different things. Lenny pretty much always had Forrest straight back in the starting line up when fit, possibly to the player's detriment at times, RD hasn't, he only came off the bench on Thursday. I'm sure RD thinks he can do a job but at the moment he definitely seems to believe there are 3 or 4 who can do it better. I think he will be used sparingly until the end of the season to see if we can build him up to a decent level of fitness ready for the new season
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2 Mar 2015, 10:47 PM
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A fit Forrest is a far better player than Gary Mackay-Steven.
That's not even remotely true. GMS has done as much in his few starts as Forrest has since his hoops debut. The amount of people that think James Forrest is a cracking player *when fit must have watched different games from me. I can hardly remember any performances from him that made you genuinely excited. Average at best, rotten or injured the rest of the time.
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2 Mar 2015, 10:47 PM
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GMS has done as much in his few starts as Forrest has since his hoops debut. I'm no fan of Forrest these days, but that is just nonsensical pish.
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2 Mar 2015, 10:48 PM
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Why the confusion ? Deila has used Forrest on a number of occasions this season, most recently on Thursday, reading between the lines here but I'm guessing that the reason for that was because Deila believed Forrest could do a job.
Seems like two different things. Lenny pretty much always had Forrest straight back in the starting line up when fit, possibly to the player's detriment at times, RD hasn't, he only came off the bench on Thursday. I'm sure RD thinks he can do a job but at the moment he definitely seems to believe there are 3 or 4 who can do it better. It was strange on Thursday that he went with Forrest, who was just back from injury, to play in a position he wasn't familiar with in such a big game. For me at least it tells me that Deila believes in what Forrest can bring to the team.
The good thing now is that we do have genuine options in Armstrong, GMS, Commons, Stokes and Henderson. Hopefully we can get rid of these niggling injuries that Forrest continually picks up once and for all. If we do that then I firmly believe we will see the best out of Forrest.
I think he's a cracking wee player and the talk of cutting our losses is just silly. It was just 18 months or so ago there was talk of an 7 or £8 million bid from Spurs coming in for him.
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GMS has done as much in his few starts as Forrest has since his hoops debut.
I think GMS has been tremendous since we signed him but that statement is just silly.
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Seems like two different things. Lenny pretty much always had Forrest straight back in the starting line up when fit, possibly to the player's detriment at times, RD hasn't, he only came off the bench on Thursday. I'm sure RD thinks he can do a job but at the moment he definitely seems to believe there are 3 or 4 who can do it better.
It was strange on Thursday that he went with Forrest, who was just back from injury, to play in a position he wasn't familiar with in such a big game. For me at least it tells me that Deila believes in what Forrest can bring to the team. The good thing now is that we do have genuine options in Armstrong, GMS, Commons, Stokes and Henderson. Hopefully we can get rid of these niggling injuries that Forrest continually picks up once and for all. If we do that then I firmly believe we will see the best out of Forrest. I think he's a cracking wee player and the talk of cutting our losses is just silly. It was just 18 months or so ago there was talk of an 7 or £8 million bid from Spurs coming in for him. Harry Redknapp was the manager at the time though
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A fit Forrest is a far better player than Gary Mackay-Steven.
That's not even remotely true. GMS has done as much in his few starts as Forrest has since his hoops debut. The amount of people that think James Forrest is a cracking player *when fit must have watched different games from me. I can hardly remember any performances from him that made you genuinely excited. Average at best, rotten or injured the rest of the time. Really ?
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2 Mar 2015, 10:50 PM
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Seems like two different things. Lenny pretty much always had Forrest straight back in the starting line up when fit, possibly to the player's detriment at times, RD hasn't, he only came off the bench on Thursday. I'm sure RD thinks he can do a job but at the moment he definitely seems to believe there are 3 or 4 who can do it better.
It was strange on Thursday that he went with Forrest, who was just back from injury, to play in a position he wasn't familiar with in such a big game. For me at least it tells me that Deila believes in what Forrest can bring to the team. The good thing now is that we do have genuine options in Armstrong, GMS, Commons, Stokes and Henderson. Hopefully we can get rid of these niggling injuries that Forrest continually picks up once and for all. If we do that then I firmly believe we will see the best out of Forrest. I think he's a cracking wee player and the talk of cutting our losses is just silly. It was just 18 months or so ago there was talk of an 7 or £8 million bid from Spurs coming in for him. I assume the idea behind Forrest coming on was that we were down to 10 men, he's fast, so let's bring him on to chase and harry defenders.
But he didn't do that, his heart wasn't in it.
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2 Mar 2015, 10:51 PM
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I think Forrest has talent but he relies on pace a lot and that seems to be lacking since he came back, perhaps he is holding back, we are being very careful with him at the moment. He certainly isn't someone who should be written off, he has performed well before and can do again.
Having said that to say he is "far" better than GMS is a push based on what we have seem recently. If he is better at all there isn't much in it.
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