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| Topic Started: 22 Oct 2014, 09:33 AM (448,939 Views) | |
| Gallowgate | 5 Oct 2016, 02:49 PM Post #1941 |
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You are correct, though he was actually only 13 at the time. Joshua Rae signed from Hamilton about two and a half years ago and had made a 6 minute appearance for their Under 20 team. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/26480459 |
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| slippy67 | 5 Oct 2016, 07:53 PM Post #1942 |
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Occasional Substitute
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First team players play in development games.watched Christian Nade played for Stranraer development and is easy 14 stone if he's a pun. There is interest in the boy from English clubs and as much as I'd love nothing better than this boy to stay at Celtic the reality is we'll be lucky to have kept hold of him by this time next year. Motherwell had interest in a young boy last year from Liverpool, Southampton plus more last year and as soon as interest was there boy got pushed up to development squad & got 9 mins. The other Celtic sub the other night was the boy McGrath who we paid money for from Hibs, again as soon as Celtic & English clubs were enquiring about him he was in development squad at 14/15. McGrath is a big bit of a boy who can step up physically as he's big for age. The money that English clubs are willing to spend will be more than most SPFL clubs spend on first team. ps- I'm 18 stone & still wouldn't like big bobo or BBJ landing on me |
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| ecemleafs | 6 Oct 2016, 01:25 AM Post #1943 |
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weird because many of the top players in the nhl draft in the past 12 years were late birthdays. Ovechkin 04 1st overall September Malkin 04 2nd overall July Crosby 05 1st overall August Kessel 06 5th overall October-would have gone 2nd in 05 if eligible Kane 07 1st overall November Doughty 08 2nd overall November Tavares 09 1st overall September Hedman 09 2nd overall December Hall 10 1st overall November Tarasenko 10 16th overall December-would have been drafted much earlier if he were not a Russian. Landeskog 11 2nd overall November Larsson 11 4th overall November Yakupov 12 1st overall October Murray 12 2nd overall September MacKinnon 13 1st overall September Barkov 13 2nd overall September Jones 13 4th overall October Lindholm 13 5th overall December Monahan 13 6th overall October Reinhart 14 2nd overall November Draisaitl 14 3rd overall October Eichel 15 2nd overall October Matthews 16 1st overall September Tkachuk 16 6th overall December Seems like most North American star prospects in the past 10-15 years were late birthdays. Typically these kids are held back academically until the next age group. Most of these players were hyped since they were young so id say if your that talented it really doesnt matter when you are born when it comes to the elite players. |
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| seaneh | 6 Oct 2016, 02:13 AM Post #1944 |
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Considering retirement
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Mark Hill was in the same boat and is now playing for the u20s regularly and I believe in the Scotland U19's http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/17886208 |
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| danthestan | 6 Oct 2016, 07:29 AM Post #1945 |
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Considering retirement
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If he's good enough, he's old enough |
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| Pat_Mustard | 6 Oct 2016, 11:40 AM Post #1946 |
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Its too big for the float Father.
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Time to disband the whole setup, Celtic bad! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-37571868 |
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| reilly76 | 6 Oct 2016, 11:43 AM Post #1947 |
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Getting on a bit
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Did the Childrens commisoner make calls for regulation when Hamilton played their youngsters in reserve games? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-37571868 Children's commissioner warning on football 'child exploitation' 50 minutes ago From the section Scotland Scotland's children's commissioner has called for regulation to stop the exploitation of children by professional football clubs. Tam Baillie said a "wait and see" approach was no longer appropriate. His comments follow the decision by Celtic to feature 13-year-old Karamoko Dembele in its under-20 side against Hearts on Monday. Bookmaker Ladbrokes has since apologised for taking bets on the child's future prospects. Dembele, who was born in London in 2003 and whose parents come from Ivory Coast, joined Celtic in July 2013. Since then he has been fast-tracked to appear with players seven years his senior. 'Commodification of children' Following his appearance on Monday, SPFL sponsor Ladbrokes began offering odds of 7/4 on him becoming the youngest Celtic player in history. However, the firm has since apologised and written to Mr Baillie saying it has closed the book on him and taken no bets. In a statement the bookmaker said: "We have written to the children's commissioner this morning, and informed the SPFL of our letter, confirming that no bets were taken on this market before it was removed and to reaffirm our commitment to responsible gambling. We've still got examples of 15-year-olds being held on three-year contracts against their will in some instances Tam Baillie, Children's commissioner "We have also sought to clarify that there was no intention of encouraging the commodification of children in Scottish football and have apologised for any offence inadvertently caused." On its website, Celtic FC said "the teenager didn't look out of place" on the pitch on Monday, despite his markedly smaller frame. The club added: "What we need to remember, though, is that Karamoko is just 13-years-old. He was given a chance to play last night on merit... it is very important that we continue their development at a measured pace." Baillie, the Children and Young People's Commissioner, told BBC Scotland's Good Morning Scotland programme: "There's very longstanding concern with regard to how a professional football clubs treat our children. "We've still got examples of 15-year-olds being held on three-year contracts against their will in some instances. "You've got instances where those contracts pay a pound a week and I believe that HMRC, revenue and customs, have taken an interest in this, and you've got reports that talk about transfers of children, which is quite contrary to any SFA rules." 'Exert sufficient regulation' Mr Baillie said there were too many youngsters involved in the club academy system who would never go on to make it as professionals. He added: "Really the clubs, to some extent, are trading on the dreams and aspirations of those children and young people. But at the end of the day they are exploiting them for monetary gain." Mr Baillie said the issue was currently the subject of a petition going through the Scottish Parliament. He said the Scottish government had adopted a "wait and see" approach which was no longer appropriate. He said: "I think that time has passed for waiting and seeing, and what we need is some action. I've suggested that it requires external regulation because it looks as if the football authorities are not capable of or not willing to exert sufficient regulation for the protection of our children involved at this very young age." |
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| reilly76 | 6 Oct 2016, 11:43 AM Post #1948 |
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Getting on a bit
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beat me to it
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| Wee Ed KTF | 6 Oct 2016, 11:48 AM Post #1949 |
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Considering retirement
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Stop kids playing football - it's exploitation
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| Cumbernauldbhoy | 6 Oct 2016, 12:40 PM Post #1950 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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Off topic but did notice that whatever legend it is that's on the Jock Stein stand inbetween McStay and Lambert was carrying a bit of beef. |
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| JimG31Bhoy | 6 Oct 2016, 12:48 PM Post #1951 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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Not a lawyer but doesn't the Age of Legal Capacity (Scotland) Act 1991 provide a safeguard against players being held on 3 year contracts between 15-18? |
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| McAvennie | 6 Oct 2016, 12:59 PM Post #1952 |
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セルティック
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Presumably Tam Baillie is someone you might describe using mild language of limited concern. |
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| Tim Bombadil | 6 Oct 2016, 01:02 PM Post #1953 |
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Getting on a bit
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FFS. It's strange that this has only been raised now, I wonder why.... |
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| Willie Wonka | 6 Oct 2016, 01:27 PM Post #1954 |
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Slavery fled, oh glorious dead
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I think there could be much bigger issues to take up a childrens commissioners time than a 13 YO getting 10 mins in a meaningless football match. |
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| SaMule | 6 Oct 2016, 02:08 PM Post #1955 |
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NSFW
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If they're 15 then they won't have been able to enter into or amend the contract themselves, their parents would have to do so on their behalf. I also kinda doubt that any contract which insisted that one of the parties to it was unable to bring an end to the contract would ever pass any sort of legal test, so if the kids really don't want to be on these three year contracts then the only people to blame would be their parents who are by implication apparently unwilling to agree an end to the contract on their behalf. Nothing to do with the clubs at all. |
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| youroldpalmark | 6 Oct 2016, 02:18 PM Post #1956 |
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She just loves my big ten inch record of her favorite blues
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An apparent predilection for unsolicited press statements would suggest so. |
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| Gothamcelt | 9 Oct 2016, 09:59 AM Post #1957 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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Gordon Parks not a happy man. Putting a downer on young Karamoko Dembele playing and how the pressure is on him to maintain it and how one of the bigger boys will surely clatter him, soon. Karamoko Dembele playing in the Celtic Under-20 side is a step too far for a thirteen year old - Gordon Parks Spoiler: click to toggle
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| Zurawski 7 | 9 Oct 2016, 10:51 AM Post #1958 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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| geezerbhoy | 9 Oct 2016, 11:08 AM Post #1959 |
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Club Captain
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what a load of absolute pish |
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| Pussyfoot | 9 Oct 2016, 11:21 AM Post #1960 |
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À la mode if you will
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Drivel, as always from this clown. |
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