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Celtic development side
Topic Started: 22 Oct 2014, 09:33 AM (448,937 Views)
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God only knows.
Wouldn't it be nice if he found responsible representation.
Going by the sound advice and direction given to Moussa Dembele by his agent, both Islam Feruz and the young Dembele could do a lot worse than seek him out when the time comes.


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God only knows.
Wouldn't it be nice if he found responsible representation.
I'm getting some good vibrations that Dembele is going to be true to his school.
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Think it's too late for Feruz to make it. He's pretty much not played any football at 21.
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11 Oct 2016, 09:03 AM
Think it's too late for Feruz to make it. He's pretty much not played any football at 21.
Its a real shame that, for him, i think most Celtic fans couldnt care now. That said all that talent cant have gone, he needs to find a good team to train with and devote two years of his life to rebuilding and getting dedicated 121 coaching to see if he still has it. Hopefully hes learned and gets used to earning fairly modest wages in an attempt to become a pro footballer.

Like you i think it might all be a little late.
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“Thankfully, I have a few very good people around me now, two of whom are Amadou Anglade and Brian Wilson. They are wise men and they have different life experiences. I am wiser, learning from them and moving in the right direction.”


Hmmm. These two arent agents are they?
God only knows.
:lol:

I know Amadou! I'm assuming it's the same guy anyway, I'll need to ask him.

He's not an agent, I worked with him at IBM. Used to play for Nantes and is a massive Chelsea fan so might be him.

Apart from the Chelsea ( he also liked the huns ) thing, he's a decent bloke :thumbsup:
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Fair play to Feruz :thumbsup: Very mature interview and now realises those looking after him only had their own interests at heart.

I would hope we have learned our lessons from that issue and protect young Dembele.
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Think it's too late for Feruz to make it. He's pretty much not played any football at 21.
Its a real shame that, for him, i think most Celtic fans couldnt care now. That said all that talent cant have gone, he needs to find a good team to train with and devote two years of his life to rebuilding and getting dedicated 121 coaching to see if he still has it. Hopefully hes learned and gets used to earning fairly modest wages in an attempt to become a pro footballer.

Like you i think it might all be a little late.
To be honest I don't know how much talent was really there in the grand scheme of things. He dominated the lower age groups as he was bigger and stronger than a lot of the boys. Now he certainly doesn't have that advantage he hasn't been able to make it at even fairly low levels.
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Think it's too late for Feruz to make it. He's pretty much not played any football at 21.
Its a real shame that, for him, i think most Celtic fans couldnt care now. That said all that talent cant have gone, he needs to find a good team to train with and devote two years of his life to rebuilding and getting dedicated 121 coaching to see if he still has it. Hopefully hes learned and gets used to earning fairly modest wages in an attempt to become a pro footballer.

Like you i think it might all be a little late.
To be honest I don't know how much talent was really there in the grand scheme of things. He dominated the lower age groups as he was bigger and stronger than a lot of the boys. Now he certainly doesn't have that advantage he hasn't been able to make it at even fairly low levels.
I'd agree with this.

Feruz was never the tallest but he was incredibly strong and quick at lower age levels before other boys caught up. I don't think he was technically that special. A wee bit of the John Flecks about him.
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To be honest I don't know how much talent was really there in the grand scheme of things. He dominated the lower age groups as he was bigger and stronger than a lot of the boys. Now he certainly doesn't have that advantage he hasn't been able to make it at even fairly low levels.
I'd agree with this.

Feruz was never the tallest but he was incredibly strong and quick at lower age levels before other boys caught up. I don't think he was technically that special. A wee bit of the John Flecks about him.
It actually looks a great bit of business in hindsight. We got more for him than we'd usually get for a youth cast off.
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Think it's too late for Feruz to make it. He's pretty much not played any football at 21.
Its a real shame that, for him, i think most Celtic fans couldnt care now. That said all that talent cant have gone, he needs to find a good team to train with and devote two years of his life to rebuilding and getting dedicated 121 coaching to see if he still has it. Hopefully hes learned and gets used to earning fairly modest wages in an attempt to become a pro footballer.

Like you i think it might all be a little late.
he has just turned 21 ffs there is plenty of football left in him, IF he wants to - for him not to have played 150 matches at his age could be a blessing for his body as it would have had time to develop without having the extreme pressure of first team football at a high lvl

Get a decent first season in Belgium, then add to that, and the "world" is open for a better move, might not play for Real Madrid in the next 3 years, but he could still have a good footballing career IF he wants too
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Think it's too late for Feruz to make it. He's pretty much not played any football at 21.
Its a real shame that, for him, i think most Celtic fans couldnt care now. That said all that talent cant have gone, he needs to find a good team to train with and devote two years of his life to rebuilding and getting dedicated 121 coaching to see if he still has it. Hopefully hes learned and gets used to earning fairly modest wages in an attempt to become a pro footballer.

Like you i think it might all be a little late.
he has just turned 21 ffs there is plenty of football left in him, IF he wants to - for him not to have played 150 matches at his age could be a blessing for his body as it would have had time to develop without having the extreme pressure of first team football at a high lvl

Get a decent first season in Belgium, then add to that, and the "world" is open for a better move, might not play for Real Madrid in the next 3 years, but he could still have a good footballing career IF he wants too
He's not been getting a game in the Belgian 2nd tier so he'll need to about turn soon
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he has just turned 21 ffs there is plenty of football left in him, IF he wants to - for him not to have played 150 matches at his age could be a blessing for his body as it would have had time to develop without having the extreme pressure of first team football at a high lvl

Get a decent first season in Belgium, then add to that, and the "world" is open for a better move, might not play for Real Madrid in the next 3 years, but he could still have a good footballing career IF he wants too
He's not been getting a game in the Belgian 2nd tier so he'll need to about turn soon
Royal Excel Mouscron plays in the best division in Belgium
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He's not been getting a game in the Belgian 2nd tier so he'll need to about turn soon
Royal Excel Mouscron plays in the best division in Belgium
My mistake. I didn't know they'd been promoted.
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Think it's too late for Feruz to make it. He's pretty much not played any football at 21.
Its a real shame that, for him, i think most Celtic fans couldnt care now. That said all that talent cant have gone, he needs to find a good team to train with and devote two years of his life to rebuilding and getting dedicated 121 coaching to see if he still has it. Hopefully hes learned and gets used to earning fairly modest wages in an attempt to become a pro footballer.

Like you i think it might all be a little late.
he has just turned 21 ffs there is plenty of football left in him, IF he wants to - for him not to have played 150 matches at his age could be a blessing for his body as it would have had time to develop without having the extreme pressure of first team football at a high lvl

Get a decent first season in Belgium, then add to that, and the "world" is open for a better move, might not play for Real Madrid in the next 3 years, but he could still have a good footballing career IF he wants too
Like i said if he sacrafices the big bucks and works hard for a couple of years then he could still have an ok career. Its gonna take a lot of hard work though, hes done nothing since he left our youths a level he dominated as QA mentioned. Still yung though so theres time for a Charlie Mulgrew prodigal son return yet :twitch:
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Good interview that with Feruz. very open on what went wrong and more than a few regrets along the way.
We'll obviously never know where his career would have taken him if he'd stayed but he'd have got a chance.
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11 Oct 2016, 01:41 AM
I think we should all forgive Islam now. :thumbsup:
Achill should name a place after him.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37644343

Karamoko has apparently trained with the first team already. How old are our youth players normally when they start training at that level? 16 or 17 at the youngest I'd guess.

Get the feeling that they're planning on putting him in the first team squad when he's 16.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37644343

Karamoko has apparently trained with the first team already. How old are our youth players normally when they start training at that level? 16 or 17 at the youngest I'd guess.

Get the feeling that they're planning on putting him in the first team squad when he's 16.
3 years from now....anything could happen in between.
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I know that but I'd hazard a guess that's what the plan is.
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The attention this young boy is getting makes me feel a bit uneasy. Hope the pressure doesnt get to him.
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