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11 Oct 2016, 08:48 AM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep Spoiler: click to toggle Former Hoops starlet Feruz first burst on to the scene in 2009 aged 14 in a memorial game for the late, great Tommy Burns. But he angered Bhoys chiefs two years later when he signed a lucrative contract with Chelsea. Feruz is still with the Stamford Bridge club, but has had several loan moves, the latest being with Belgian side Excel Mouscron. His career hasn’t hit the heights it was expected to. But he has just turned 21 and remains confident of fulfilling his potential. Feruz is also aware of the hype surrounding Dembele and wants to see the youngster progress and flourish at Celtic Park. Major European clubs are already being tipped to try and prize him away, but Feruz has urged the teenager to ignore any advances and focus on football. He said: “I’ve heard about young Dembele and I’ve been told he has a genuine chance to go all the way. It takes me back seven or eight years ago. “The main thing is to stay focused and concentrate on football. If he keeps doing what he has been doing, he will continue to improve. “If he keeps progressing at this speed, who knows what he will be ready to achieve at 16? “I hope he stays with Celtic, plays for their first team and score lots of goals. Never forget that playing football makes you happy. “If he does that the next steps will be a natural progression. He will not need to chase anything or rush into anything. He just has to keep his head down, stay focused and not be distracted. That’s the best advice I can give him. “I remember it all just seemed to happen at once and hit me overnight. There was so much publicity. It was very hard to handle. “It’s hard to cope when you are so young. It’s easy to put your faith in other people and it becomes easy to lose focus on football. “People will now want to get involved with him and, no doubt, promise plenty. People will try to sweet talk him. But you must trust your family and stick to football. “It’s easy to become distracted and lose sight of the necessary development required on and off the field. The people of Scotland, in every walk of life, must try to protect him. I wish him luck.” Originally from Somalia, controversy has followed Feruz since he quit Scotland and he has been at the centre of many misdemeanours. Most coaches and managers he has worked with have labelled him a Billy Big Time with a poor attitude that overshadows his ability. Having spent time in his company, he appears to be maturing and is not afraid to hold his hands up. He won’t try to defend himself against every accusation, but he has rarely chosen to give his side of any story. Feruz added: “I’m not going into every detail, but if I could turn the clock back I would definitely have stayed at Celtic for longer. “Listen, I had my head turned at 15 years of age. I didn’t realise there was money involved in football. I just played football for the love of the game. “There is no doubting my ability as a footballer. I’m only 21. What I have to do is show everyone I have matured. “There are many things in my life I’d do differently. Yes, I’ve done things I’m not proud of. “Thankfully, I have a few very good people around me now, two of whom are Amadou Anglade and Brian Wilson. They are wise men and they have different life experiences. I am wiser, learning from them and moving in the right direction.” http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/celtic/7246280/Islam-Feruz-My-head-was-turned-at-15I-hope-Kara-Dembele-doesnt-take-eye-off-ball.html
God only knows.
Wouldn't it be nice if he found responsible representation. Going by the sound advice and direction given to Moussa Dembele by his agent, both Islam Feruz and the young Dembele could do a lot worse than seek him out when the time comes.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep Spoiler: click to toggle Former Hoops starlet Feruz first burst on to the scene in 2009 aged 14 in a memorial game for the late, great Tommy Burns. But he angered Bhoys chiefs two years later when he signed a lucrative contract with Chelsea. Feruz is still with the Stamford Bridge club, but has had several loan moves, the latest being with Belgian side Excel Mouscron. His career hasn’t hit the heights it was expected to. But he has just turned 21 and remains confident of fulfilling his potential. Feruz is also aware of the hype surrounding Dembele and wants to see the youngster progress and flourish at Celtic Park. Major European clubs are already being tipped to try and prize him away, but Feruz has urged the teenager to ignore any advances and focus on football. He said: “I’ve heard about young Dembele and I’ve been told he has a genuine chance to go all the way. It takes me back seven or eight years ago. “The main thing is to stay focused and concentrate on football. If he keeps doing what he has been doing, he will continue to improve. “If he keeps progressing at this speed, who knows what he will be ready to achieve at 16? “I hope he stays with Celtic, plays for their first team and score lots of goals. Never forget that playing football makes you happy. “If he does that the next steps will be a natural progression. He will not need to chase anything or rush into anything. He just has to keep his head down, stay focused and not be distracted. That’s the best advice I can give him. “I remember it all just seemed to happen at once and hit me overnight. There was so much publicity. It was very hard to handle. “It’s hard to cope when you are so young. It’s easy to put your faith in other people and it becomes easy to lose focus on football. “People will now want to get involved with him and, no doubt, promise plenty. People will try to sweet talk him. But you must trust your family and stick to football. “It’s easy to become distracted and lose sight of the necessary development required on and off the field. The people of Scotland, in every walk of life, must try to protect him. I wish him luck.” Originally from Somalia, controversy has followed Feruz since he quit Scotland and he has been at the centre of many misdemeanours. Most coaches and managers he has worked with have labelled him a Billy Big Time with a poor attitude that overshadows his ability. Having spent time in his company, he appears to be maturing and is not afraid to hold his hands up. He won’t try to defend himself against every accusation, but he has rarely chosen to give his side of any story. Feruz added: “I’m not going into every detail, but if I could turn the clock back I would definitely have stayed at Celtic for longer. “Listen, I had my head turned at 15 years of age. I didn’t realise there was money involved in football. I just played football for the love of the game. “There is no doubting my ability as a footballer. I’m only 21. What I have to do is show everyone I have matured. “There are many things in my life I’d do differently. Yes, I’ve done things I’m not proud of. “Thankfully, I have a few very good people around me now, two of whom are Amadou Anglade and Brian Wilson. They are wise men and they have different life experiences. I am wiser, learning from them and moving in the right direction.” http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/celtic/7246280/Islam-Feruz-My-head-was-turned-at-15I-hope-Kara-Dembele-doesnt-take-eye-off-ball.html
God only knows.
Wouldn't it be nice if he found responsible representation. I'm getting some good vibrations that Dembele is going to be true to his school.
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Think it's too late for Feruz to make it. He's pretty much not played any football at 21.
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Think it's too late for Feruz to make it. He's pretty much not played any football at 21. Its a real shame that, for him, i think most Celtic fans couldnt care now. That said all that talent cant have gone, he needs to find a good team to train with and devote two years of his life to rebuilding and getting dedicated 121 coaching to see if he still has it. Hopefully hes learned and gets used to earning fairly modest wages in an attempt to become a pro footballer.
Like you i think it might all be a little late.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep Spoiler: click to toggle Former Hoops starlet Feruz first burst on to the scene in 2009 aged 14 in a memorial game for the late, great Tommy Burns. But he angered Bhoys chiefs two years later when he signed a lucrative contract with Chelsea. Feruz is still with the Stamford Bridge club, but has had several loan moves, the latest being with Belgian side Excel Mouscron. His career hasn’t hit the heights it was expected to. But he has just turned 21 and remains confident of fulfilling his potential. Feruz is also aware of the hype surrounding Dembele and wants to see the youngster progress and flourish at Celtic Park. Major European clubs are already being tipped to try and prize him away, but Feruz has urged the teenager to ignore any advances and focus on football. He said: “I’ve heard about young Dembele and I’ve been told he has a genuine chance to go all the way. It takes me back seven or eight years ago. “The main thing is to stay focused and concentrate on football. If he keeps doing what he has been doing, he will continue to improve. “If he keeps progressing at this speed, who knows what he will be ready to achieve at 16? “I hope he stays with Celtic, plays for their first team and score lots of goals. Never forget that playing football makes you happy. “If he does that the next steps will be a natural progression. He will not need to chase anything or rush into anything. He just has to keep his head down, stay focused and not be distracted. That’s the best advice I can give him. “I remember it all just seemed to happen at once and hit me overnight. There was so much publicity. It was very hard to handle. “It’s hard to cope when you are so young. It’s easy to put your faith in other people and it becomes easy to lose focus on football. “People will now want to get involved with him and, no doubt, promise plenty. People will try to sweet talk him. But you must trust your family and stick to football. “It’s easy to become distracted and lose sight of the necessary development required on and off the field. The people of Scotland, in every walk of life, must try to protect him. I wish him luck.” Originally from Somalia, controversy has followed Feruz since he quit Scotland and he has been at the centre of many misdemeanours. Most coaches and managers he has worked with have labelled him a Billy Big Time with a poor attitude that overshadows his ability. Having spent time in his company, he appears to be maturing and is not afraid to hold his hands up. He won’t try to defend himself against every accusation, but he has rarely chosen to give his side of any story. Feruz added: “I’m not going into every detail, but if I could turn the clock back I would definitely have stayed at Celtic for longer. “Listen, I had my head turned at 15 years of age. I didn’t realise there was money involved in football. I just played football for the love of the game. “There is no doubting my ability as a footballer. I’m only 21. What I have to do is show everyone I have matured. “There are many things in my life I’d do differently. Yes, I’ve done things I’m not proud of. “Thankfully, I have a few very good people around me now, two of whom are Amadou Anglade and Brian Wilson. They are wise men and they have different life experiences. I am wiser, learning from them and moving in the right direction.” http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/celtic/7246280/Islam-Feruz-My-head-was-turned-at-15I-hope-Kara-Dembele-doesnt-take-eye-off-ball.html
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“Thankfully, I have a few very good people around me now, two of whom are Amadou Anglade and Brian Wilson. They are wise men and they have different life experiences. I am wiser, learning from them and moving in the right direction.”
Hmmm. These two arent agents are they?
God only knows.
I know Amadou! I'm assuming it's the same guy anyway, I'll need to ask him.
He's not an agent, I worked with him at IBM. Used to play for Nantes and is a massive Chelsea fan so might be him.
Apart from the Chelsea ( he also liked the huns ) thing, he's a decent bloke
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Fair play to Feruz Very mature interview and now realises those looking after him only had their own interests at heart.
I would hope we have learned our lessons from that issue and protect young Dembele.
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Think it's too late for Feruz to make it. He's pretty much not played any football at 21.
Its a real shame that, for him, i think most Celtic fans couldnt care now. That said all that talent cant have gone, he needs to find a good team to train with and devote two years of his life to rebuilding and getting dedicated 121 coaching to see if he still has it. Hopefully hes learned and gets used to earning fairly modest wages in an attempt to become a pro footballer. Like you i think it might all be a little late. To be honest I don't know how much talent was really there in the grand scheme of things. He dominated the lower age groups as he was bigger and stronger than a lot of the boys. Now he certainly doesn't have that advantage he hasn't been able to make it at even fairly low levels.
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Think it's too late for Feruz to make it. He's pretty much not played any football at 21.
Its a real shame that, for him, i think most Celtic fans couldnt care now. That said all that talent cant have gone, he needs to find a good team to train with and devote two years of his life to rebuilding and getting dedicated 121 coaching to see if he still has it. Hopefully hes learned and gets used to earning fairly modest wages in an attempt to become a pro footballer. Like you i think it might all be a little late.
To be honest I don't know how much talent was really there in the grand scheme of things. He dominated the lower age groups as he was bigger and stronger than a lot of the boys. Now he certainly doesn't have that advantage he hasn't been able to make it at even fairly low levels. I'd agree with this.
Feruz was never the tallest but he was incredibly strong and quick at lower age levels before other boys caught up. I don't think he was technically that special. A wee bit of the John Flecks about him.
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To be honest I don't know how much talent was really there in the grand scheme of things. He dominated the lower age groups as he was bigger and stronger than a lot of the boys. Now he certainly doesn't have that advantage he hasn't been able to make it at even fairly low levels.
I'd agree with this. Feruz was never the tallest but he was incredibly strong and quick at lower age levels before other boys caught up. I don't think he was technically that special. A wee bit of the John Flecks about him. It actually looks a great bit of business in hindsight. We got more for him than we'd usually get for a youth cast off.
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Think it's too late for Feruz to make it. He's pretty much not played any football at 21.
Its a real shame that, for him, i think most Celtic fans couldnt care now. That said all that talent cant have gone, he needs to find a good team to train with and devote two years of his life to rebuilding and getting dedicated 121 coaching to see if he still has it. Hopefully hes learned and gets used to earning fairly modest wages in an attempt to become a pro footballer. Like you i think it might all be a little late. he has just turned 21 ffs there is plenty of football left in him, IF he wants to - for him not to have played 150 matches at his age could be a blessing for his body as it would have had time to develop without having the extreme pressure of first team football at a high lvl
Get a decent first season in Belgium, then add to that, and the "world" is open for a better move, might not play for Real Madrid in the next 3 years, but he could still have a good footballing career IF he wants too
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Think it's too late for Feruz to make it. He's pretty much not played any football at 21.
Its a real shame that, for him, i think most Celtic fans couldnt care now. That said all that talent cant have gone, he needs to find a good team to train with and devote two years of his life to rebuilding and getting dedicated 121 coaching to see if he still has it. Hopefully hes learned and gets used to earning fairly modest wages in an attempt to become a pro footballer. Like you i think it might all be a little late.
he has just turned 21 ffs there is plenty of football left in him, IF he wants to - for him not to have played 150 matches at his age could be a blessing for his body as it would have had time to develop without having the extreme pressure of first team football at a high lvl Get a decent first season in Belgium, then add to that, and the "world" is open for a better move, might not play for Real Madrid in the next 3 years, but he could still have a good footballing career IF he wants too He's not been getting a game in the Belgian 2nd tier so he'll need to about turn soon
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he has just turned 21 ffs there is plenty of football left in him, IF he wants to - for him not to have played 150 matches at his age could be a blessing for his body as it would have had time to develop without having the extreme pressure of first team football at a high lvl Get a decent first season in Belgium, then add to that, and the "world" is open for a better move, might not play for Real Madrid in the next 3 years, but he could still have a good footballing career IF he wants too
He's not been getting a game in the Belgian 2nd tier so he'll need to about turn soon Royal Excel Mouscron plays in the best division in Belgium
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He's not been getting a game in the Belgian 2nd tier so he'll need to about turn soon
Royal Excel Mouscron plays in the best division in Belgium My mistake. I didn't know they'd been promoted.
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Think it's too late for Feruz to make it. He's pretty much not played any football at 21.
Its a real shame that, for him, i think most Celtic fans couldnt care now. That said all that talent cant have gone, he needs to find a good team to train with and devote two years of his life to rebuilding and getting dedicated 121 coaching to see if he still has it. Hopefully hes learned and gets used to earning fairly modest wages in an attempt to become a pro footballer. Like you i think it might all be a little late.
he has just turned 21 ffs there is plenty of football left in him, IF he wants to - for him not to have played 150 matches at his age could be a blessing for his body as it would have had time to develop without having the extreme pressure of first team football at a high lvl Get a decent first season in Belgium, then add to that, and the "world" is open for a better move, might not play for Real Madrid in the next 3 years, but he could still have a good footballing career IF he wants too Like i said if he sacrafices the big bucks and works hard for a couple of years then he could still have an ok career. Its gonna take a lot of hard work though, hes done nothing since he left our youths a level he dominated as QA mentioned. Still yung though so theres time for a Charlie Mulgrew prodigal son return yet
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Good interview that with Feruz. very open on what went wrong and more than a few regrets along the way. We'll obviously never know where his career would have taken him if he'd stayed but he'd have got a chance.
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I think we should all forgive Islam now. Achill should name a place after him.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37644343
Karamoko has apparently trained with the first team already. How old are our youth players normally when they start training at that level? 16 or 17 at the youngest I'd guess.
Get the feeling that they're planning on putting him in the first team squad when he's 16.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37644343Karamoko has apparently trained with the first team already. How old are our youth players normally when they start training at that level? 16 or 17 at the youngest I'd guess. Get the feeling that they're planning on putting him in the first team squad when he's 16. 3 years from now....anything could happen in between.
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I know that but I'd hazard a guess that's what the plan is.
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The attention this young boy is getting makes me feel a bit uneasy. Hope the pressure doesnt get to him.
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