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Liam Henderson; signs for Bari.
Topic Started: 3 Oct 2014, 01:50 PM (282,296 Views)
Roscoe P Coltrane
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I reckon he'll be back at Hibs in January.
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I just don't rate McGregor - Thought he might possibly at best be a useful squad player for games like last night but now would rather he was away - I also want Allan away there is no real player in him.

I have never thought Henderson was any better than the other two - Others maybe have come up with that - He can put in a tackle McGregor and Allan can't but that isn't enough to warrant a shout at a place.

Rodgers wants two midfielders in before the CL qualifiers next season - I think Bitton will be punted so one of McGregor or Henderson may be kept - I would rather we had better and both were away but I have a feeling if he has to keep one of them temporarily it will be McGregor.
Agree with all.

McGregor is the best of the 3 mentioned. None of the 3 good enough.
Given the need for home grown squad players i wouldn't be in any hurry to move Henderson or McGregor on.
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22 Dec 2016, 10:18 AM
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21 Dec 2016, 03:04 PM
I'm no fan of McGregor at all. He's got much more to his game than Henderson.

He is also 3 years older than Henderson, 3 years ago McGregor wasn't on the lvl that Henderson is today
3 years ago McGregor was at Notts County and played 37 games, scoring 12 goals.
That's why he got his chance with us.
Liam unfortunately hasn't impressed much on loan or in the first team.
There's still time for him though, but think he needs to go on loan down to England and try and get a run of games.
It would hopefully allow him to kick on with us or find a team down there.
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22 Dec 2016, 12:44 PM
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21 Dec 2016, 09:33 PM

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Agree with all.

McGregor is the best of the 3 mentioned. None of the 3 good enough.
Given the need for home grown squad players i wouldn't be in any hurry to move Henderson or McGregor on.
The hope is of course we have others coming through.

I think Henerson is a goner in January or Summer. I think BR likes CM though.
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We need Home Grown eligible players and having a few raw Scottish guys with a bit of potential who will be happy enough not to be automatic starters is ideal for that.
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jebus82
21 Dec 2016, 11:16 PM
it always amazes me how quickly some of our fans like to slaughter young scottish players who come from our youths?
'slaughter' = have the opinion that said player isn't quite good enough
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He's only 20,i don't see the harm in giving him another season.
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21 Dec 2016, 11:16 PM
it always amazes me how quickly some of our fans like to slaughter young scottish players who come from our youths?
fans are more patient and supportive of our youth players than they would be if we had signed them from abroad.

Doesn't mean we can't be honest in our assessment of their potential or performances when they get a chance.
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I don't think he's quite as bad as people are making out. He's only 20 and gets very limited game time yet some are so sure he isn't good enough.
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22 Dec 2016, 12:02 PM
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22 Dec 2016, 10:41 AM
Danny McGrain was 20 before he even got a look in at Celtic. Some fans would have wanted him released if that was the case now
Sure if Danny had played a few games and didnt look like he was good enough.

If BR is going to get the squad size to where he wants and bring in better midfielders (that he says he wants) then how do we balance that out? Releasing peripheral players that the manager doesnt seem to rate would be the obvious way. Its not knives out, impatience, anti-Scots youngsters, etc. Its just looking at what the manager wants and moving forward with that.
I think Brendans prefered option (from listening to him) would be to give the younger players a proper chance first of all over buying in players. We will have natural wastage when players contracts run out like Toure, Ambrose, Boyata and Ciftci for example and under the current system we need 4 wingers, if Roberts goes back to Man City thats a position we would probably look to spend cash on.

I think in the next 2 windows we will sign 4 players tops, but they will be quality.
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22 Dec 2016, 02:37 PM
I don't think he's quite as bad as people are making out. He's only 20 and gets very limited game time yet some are so sure he isn't good enough.
How many more games does Henderson need before an opinion can be made?
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didnt realise he was only 20.

Still has a great chance to make it
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22 Dec 2016, 02:37 PM
I don't think he's quite as bad as people are making out. He's only 20 and gets very limited game time yet some are so sure he isn't good enough.
How many more games does Henderson need before an opinion can be made?
There isn't a certain number but surely given his age and extremely limited minutes a little bit of leeway should be a given rather than complete dismissal of his ability and future?

I don't think his time at Hibs is a fair indicator either given it was an inferior league, inferior teammates and a vastly inferior manager.
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22 Dec 2016, 02:48 PM
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22 Dec 2016, 02:37 PM
I don't think he's quite as bad as people are making out. He's only 20 and gets very limited game time yet some are so sure he isn't good enough.
How many more games does Henderson need before an opinion can be made?
There isn't a certain number but surely given his age and extremely limited minutes a little bit of leeway should be a given rather than complete dismissal of his ability and future?

I don't think his time at Hibs is a fair indicator either given it was an inferior league, inferior teammates and a vastly inferior manager.
People have seen enough. The age thing is a maybe a bit of saver but he is 20 now and the excuse a wearing thinner.

More often than not, if you're going to make it with us we would know before they're 20. Tierney, Forrest(initially) , Dembele, Mcgeady, Maloney and much loved Roberts all had something about them by his age. He's not. He's excruciating average and for the team and the style we want to play under Rodgers he's quite frankly a mile effing slow.

He went to Hibs, and near the end couldn't get into a team that had Fraser Fyvie and Dylan Mcgeough in it.
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22 Dec 2016, 03:23 PM
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22 Dec 2016, 02:48 PM
McStay
22 Dec 2016, 02:37 PM
I don't think he's quite as bad as people are making out. He's only 20 and gets very limited game time yet some are so sure he isn't good enough.
How many more games does Henderson need before an opinion can be made?
There isn't a certain number but surely given his age and extremely limited minutes a little bit of leeway should be a given rather than complete dismissal of his ability and future?

I don't think his time at Hibs is a fair indicator either given it was an inferior league, inferior teammates and a vastly inferior manager.
Oh come on, a player of genuine Celtic class should be tearing the lower leagues up.

If you aren't great at that level, and you look ordinary (at best) in a Celtic shirt, then don't be surprised when fans think you aren't up to it.
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I'm no fan of McGregor at all. He's got much more to his game than Henderson.

He is also 3 years older than Henderson, 3 years ago McGregor wasn't on the lvl that Henderson is today
3 years ago McGregor was at Notts County and played 37 games, scoring 12 goals.
That's why he got his chance with us.
Liam unfortunately hasn't impressed much on loan or in the first team.
There's still time for him though, but think he needs to go on loan down to England and try and get a run of games.
It would hopefully allow him to kick on with us or find a team down there.
Hasn't impressed much on loan? :ponder:
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he didn't do too bad for hibs he sent in two corners which resulted in goals,which won the cup for the first time,when you think of the great hibs teams down the years who didn't win the Scottish cup,liam has a place in history.
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22 Dec 2016, 07:38 PM
he didn't do too bad for hibs he sent in two corners which resulted in goals,which won the cup for the first time,when you think of the great hibs teams down the years who didn't win the Scottish cup,liam has a place in history.
He also started 5 games in the previous rounds chalking up wins v Hertz, DundeeUtd and ICT.

He started in all Hibs matches in the league Cup run to the final losing to a last minute winner. They put out Aberdeen, Dundee Utd and St Johnstone on the way.

He had 48 appearances overall with Hibs last season and just to put the myth to bed, him and Fraser Fyvie started 20 matches alongside each other.

Started 3 of Hibs 4 play off games, missing the 1-0 defeat to Raith.

He had enough appearances with Rosenburg to qualify for league winners medal.

Naw, I'm no his maw.
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He hasn't played enough games yet to be completely written off. He is only 20. He has a lot of attributes.
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22 Dec 2016, 03:37 PM
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22 Dec 2016, 02:48 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
There isn't a certain number but surely given his age and extremely limited minutes a little bit of leeway should be a given rather than complete dismissal of his ability and future?

I don't think his time at Hibs is a fair indicator either given it was an inferior league, inferior teammates and a vastly inferior manager.
People have seen enough. The age thing is a maybe a bit of saver but he is 20 now and the excuse a wearing thinner.

More often than not, if you're going to make it with us we would know before they're 20. Tierney, Forrest(initially) , Dembele, Mcgeady, Maloney and much loved Roberts all had something about them by his age. He's not. He's excruciating average and for the team and the style we want to play under Rodgers he's quite frankly a mile effing slow.

He went to Hibs, and near the end couldn't get into a team that had Fraser Fyvie and Dylan Mcgeough in it.
He was knackered. It was towards the end of his first full season .
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