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Liam Henderson; signs for Bari.
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I saw Henderson first time early in Deila´s tenure and I thought he looked quite promising. Now, almost two years later I honestly cannot see in which areas he has improved. He was pretty bad in his loan spell at Rosenborg and at Hiberians last season, was he even an obvious first team starter? There´s a lot of midfielders at the club, and if someone´s gonna be sent out, I think Henderson is not a bad call. I´m not Allan´s greatest fan either, but I´d rather keep Allan and Christie before Henderson. Sell Henderson and Johansen (and Allan also, if you ask me), and keep the rest.
I've no idea how he performed at Rosenborg, but you're talking nonsense about his spell at Hibs. They're currently trying to resign him ffs. He was pretty much a regular for them last season making contributions with goals and assists.

As for selling him and keeping Allan and Christie, I couldn't disagree more. Henderson has far more potential than them. Allan is about 5 years older too.

I'd loan him out to SPL team this year if he isn't in Rodgers' plans. Would be a mistake to let him go imo.
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1 Aug 2016, 05:15 PM
Not a chance we will sell him. People wanting him out the door permanently are effing clueless.

Hibs would be good for him - they will be expected to win every game and will have the lions share of possession.

Yip.

Has the tolls to be a great player.. Only 20 and has it all ahead of him unlike some of the current crop of not so young 'projects'..
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2 Aug 2016, 12:53 AM
I saw Henderson first time early in Deila´s tenure and I thought he looked quite promising. Now, almost two years later I honestly cannot see in which areas he has improved. He was pretty bad in his loan spell at Rosenborg and at Hiberians last season, was he even an obvious first team starter? There´s a lot of midfielders at the club, and if someone´s gonna be sent out, I think Henderson is not a bad call. I´m not Allan´s greatest fan either, but I´d rather keep Allan and Christie before Henderson. Sell Henderson and Johansen (and Allan also, if you ask me), and keep the rest.
I've no idea how he performed at Rosenborg, but you're talking nonsense about his spell at Hibs. They're currently trying to resign him ffs. He was pretty much a regular for them last season making contributions with goals and assists.

As for selling him and keeping Allan and Christie, I couldn't disagree more. Henderson has far more potential than them. Allan is about 5 years older too.

I'd loan him out to SPL team this year if he isn't in Rodgers' plans. Would be a mistake to let him go imo.
The fact Henderson started Hibs' biggest game of the season on the subs bench would suggest his form was a bit up and down, despite the Championship being full of absolute dross. That doesn't make him a bad player but it does raise questions over whether he's ready for our first team. The danger of sending him out on loan for the third season in a row is pretty obvious though. I can't think of anyone else we've loaned out for that long who ultimately made it at Celtic. If Henderson has genuine talent, it's probably worth giving Rodgers a year to work with him and come to a decision next summer.
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I saw Henderson first time early in Deila´s tenure and I thought he looked quite promising. Now, almost two years later I honestly cannot see in which areas he has improved. He was pretty bad in his loan spell at Rosenborg and at Hiberians last season, was he even an obvious first team starter? There´s a lot of midfielders at the club, and if someone´s gonna be sent out, I think Henderson is not a bad call. I´m not Allan´s greatest fan either, but I´d rather keep Allan and Christie before Henderson. Sell Henderson and Johansen (and Allan also, if you ask me), and keep the rest.
He played in 48 games for Hibs last season :lol:
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2 Aug 2016, 12:53 AM
I saw Henderson first time early in Deila´s tenure and I thought he looked quite promising. Now, almost two years later I honestly cannot see in which areas he has improved. He was pretty bad in his loan spell at Rosenborg and at Hiberians last season, was he even an obvious first team starter? There´s a lot of midfielders at the club, and if someone´s gonna be sent out, I think Henderson is not a bad call. I´m not Allan´s greatest fan either, but I´d rather keep Allan and Christie before Henderson. Sell Henderson and Johansen (and Allan also, if you ask me), and keep the rest.
I've no idea how he performed at Rosenborg, but you're talking nonsense about his spell at Hibs. They're currently trying to resign him ffs. He was pretty much a regular for them last season making contributions with goals and assists.

As for selling him and keeping Allan and Christie, I couldn't disagree more. Henderson has far more potential than them. Allan is about 5 years older too.

I'd loan him out to SPL team this year if he isn't in Rodgers' plans. Would be a mistake to let him go imo.
Henderson is already at the same level as Allan and is 5 years younger. If you were to let one go it's a no brainer. Allan is blatantly never going to make it with us.
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2 Aug 2016, 09:40 AM
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2 Aug 2016, 12:53 AM
I saw Henderson first time early in Deila´s tenure and I thought he looked quite promising. Now, almost two years later I honestly cannot see in which areas he has improved. He was pretty bad in his loan spell at Rosenborg and at Hiberians last season, was he even an obvious first team starter? There´s a lot of midfielders at the club, and if someone´s gonna be sent out, I think Henderson is not a bad call. I´m not Allan´s greatest fan either, but I´d rather keep Allan and Christie before Henderson. Sell Henderson and Johansen (and Allan also, if you ask me), and keep the rest.
He played in 48 games for Hibs last season :lol:
On top of his spell in Norway,quite a lot of football for a young lad. I happen to think he is good enough and should be getting more of a chance this season but i accept the manager might have other ideas.

He needed a break,which hopefully is why he featured little pre season and if he is going out on loan again Rodgers should find a club in the English championship for him to develop further (and differently) with.
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2 Aug 2016, 12:53 AM
I saw Henderson first time early in Deila´s tenure and I thought he looked quite promising. Now, almost two years later I honestly cannot see in which areas he has improved. He was pretty bad in his loan spell at Rosenborg and at Hiberians last season, was he even an obvious first team starter? There´s a lot of midfielders at the club, and if someone´s gonna be sent out, I think Henderson is not a bad call. I´m not Allan´s greatest fan either, but I´d rather keep Allan and Christie before Henderson. Sell Henderson and Johansen (and Allan also, if you ask me), and keep the rest.
He played in 48 games for Hibs last season :lol:
On top of his spell in Norway,quite a lot of football for a young lad. I happen to think he is good enough and should be getting more of a chance this season but i accept the manager might have other ideas.

He needed a break,which hopefully is why he featured little pre season and if he is going out on loan again Rodgers should find a club in the English championship for him to develop further (and differently) with.
Yeah I think Henderson has a chance of making it, but you cant really argue with a year out on loan while we trim off the squad to get him game time.
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Couple of Hibees in work thought he was a cracking prospect, they're dying to get him back.

If Rodgers doesn't rate him then fair enough, we need to trim. We should try to get a decent sell-on clause in any deal in case he does make it.
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Barrabhoy1
2 Aug 2016, 08:11 AM
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2 Aug 2016, 12:53 AM
I saw Henderson first time early in Deila´s tenure and I thought he looked quite promising. Now, almost two years later I honestly cannot see in which areas he has improved. He was pretty bad in his loan spell at Rosenborg and at Hiberians last season, was he even an obvious first team starter? There´s a lot of midfielders at the club, and if someone´s gonna be sent out, I think Henderson is not a bad call. I´m not Allan´s greatest fan either, but I´d rather keep Allan and Christie before Henderson. Sell Henderson and Johansen (and Allan also, if you ask me), and keep the rest.
I've no idea how he performed at Rosenborg, but you're talking nonsense about his spell at Hibs. They're currently trying to resign him ffs. He was pretty much a regular for them last season making contributions with goals and assists.

As for selling him and keeping Allan and Christie, I couldn't disagree more. Henderson has far more potential than them. Allan is about 5 years older too.

I'd loan him out to SPL team this year if he isn't in Rodgers' plans. Would be a mistake to let him go imo.
The fact Henderson started Hibs' biggest game of the season on the subs bench would suggest his form was a bit up and down, despite the Championship being full of absolute dross. That doesn't make him a bad player but it does raise questions over whether he's ready for our first team. The danger of sending him out on loan for the third season in a row is pretty obvious though. I can't think of anyone else we've loaned out for that long who ultimately made it at Celtic. If Henderson has genuine talent, it's probably worth giving Rodgers a year to work with him and come to a decision next summer.
Hopefully we are looking at how other teams develop their youngsters. We have never really loaned out players for their development, only to get them off the wage bill or in the shop window. Centre mid is probably the toughest position to breakthrough into so we should give him time.
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Four or five years younger, he's played about two thirds of the amount of games as Scott Allan, and I reckon he'd have been a starter in more of them then Allan.

I don't know whether he's good enough to make it at Celtic, but he doesn't seem to have been given the opportunity that others have. Certainly looked decent enough when he broke through, has an eye for goal and for all Allan's much vaunted passing ability, I haven't seen him play a pass like the one Henderson did for Guidetti against Inter Milan.

Out of the pair, I think I'd rather keep Henderson. I'd have liked to have seen Allan given a go last year, but the truth is the squad is too big, it's full of mediocre players and we need players who can become a mainstay rather than just another above average (in SPL terms) squad player.

So if we're going to get things sorted out, we need to be brutal and and we need to start wielding the axe soon. Henderson may be unfortunate when it comes down to it.

Also, I thought he didn't start in Stubbs cup final side because of the formation? When it wasn't working, Stubbs brought him on, changed the formation and he won the game. That's what I remember reading at the time (didn't see the full match).
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I saw Henderson first time early in Deila´s tenure and I thought he looked quite promising. Now, almost two years later I honestly cannot see in which areas he has improved. He was pretty bad in his loan spell at Rosenborg and at Hiberians last season, was he even an obvious first team starter? There´s a lot of midfielders at the club, and if someone´s gonna be sent out, I think Henderson is not a bad call. I´m not Allan´s greatest fan either, but I´d rather keep Allan and Christie before Henderson. Sell Henderson and Johansen (and Allan also, if you ask me), and keep the rest.
He played in 48 games for Hibs last season :lol:
Alright. I don´t know much about his spell at Hibs, hence the question :thumbsup:
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Couple of Hibees in work thought he was a cracking prospect, they're dying to get him back.

If Rodgers doesn't rate him then fair enough, we need to trim. We should try to get a decent sell-on clause in any deal in case he does make it.
I'd keep him, he's a good prospect.
Remember him flattening Wesley Sneijder in that friendly tournament in Turkey a couple of seasons ago. He, and another couple of the youngsters, did very well in that tournament.
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I saw Henderson first time early in Deila´s tenure and I thought he looked quite promising. Now, almost two years later I honestly cannot see in which areas he has improved. He was pretty bad in his loan spell at Rosenborg and at Hiberians last season, was he even an obvious first team starter? There´s a lot of midfielders at the club, and if someone´s gonna be sent out, I think Henderson is not a bad call. I´m not Allan´s greatest fan either, but I´d rather keep Allan and Christie before Henderson. Sell Henderson and Johansen (and Allan also, if you ask me), and keep the rest.
he wasn't 'pretty bad' for rosenborg at all he scored important
goals for them and was well liked by the fans.

he also played well in the scottish cup final for hibernians. ;)

whether or not he's good enough to play for us just now is up to the management we'l see what happens.
He started pretty well at Rosenborg when he got the last 20 minutes in a couple of games and scored in both. Then he was given a start in the cup and he really stank the place out before he was taken off. After than, I´m not sure he featured at all.
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I saw Henderson first time early in Deila´s tenure and I thought he looked quite promising. Now, almost two years later I honestly cannot see in which areas he has improved. He was pretty bad in his loan spell at Rosenborg and at Hiberians last season, was he even an obvious first team starter? There´s a lot of midfielders at the club, and if someone´s gonna be sent out, I think Henderson is not a bad call. I´m not Allan´s greatest fan either, but I´d rather keep Allan and Christie before Henderson. Sell Henderson and Johansen (and Allan also, if you ask me), and keep the rest.
he wasn't 'pretty bad' for rosenborg at all he scored important
goals for them and was well liked by the fans.

he also played well in the scottish cup final for hibernians. ;)

whether or not he's good enough to play for us just now is up to the management we'l see what happens.
He started pretty well at Rosenborg when he got the last 20 minutes in a couple of games and scored in both. Then he was given a start in the cup and he really stank the place out before he was taken off. After than, I´m not sure he featured at all.
Bit harsh just for passing wind on the pitch :o
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Four or five years younger, he's played about two thirds of the amount of games as Scott Allan, and I reckon he'd have been a starter in more of them then Allan.

I don't know whether he's good enough to make it at Celtic, but he doesn't seem to have been given the opportunity that others have. Certainly looked decent enough when he broke through, has an eye for goal and for all Allan's much vaunted passing ability, I haven't seen him play a pass like the one Henderson did for Guidetti against Inter Milan.

Out of the pair, I think I'd rather keep Henderson. I'd have liked to have seen Allan given a go last year, but the truth is the squad is too big, it's full of mediocre players and we need players who can become a mainstay rather than just another above average (in SPL terms) squad player.

So if we're going to get things sorted out, we need to be brutal and and we need to start wielding the axe soon. Henderson may be unfortunate when it comes down to it.

Also, I thought he didn't start in Stubbs cup final side because of the formation? When it wasn't working, Stubbs brought him on, changed the formation and he won the game. That's what I remember reading at the time (didn't see the full match).
From what I recall, he came on in the final and was a big part in Hibs turning it around. The fact he was dropped by Stubbs and then had to come on and made a big difference should be testament to his character.

Henderson is a cracking player for his age. The fact we've got plenty of lazy, blinkered and one-paced centre mids makes it even stranger we want rid of an energetic player with the ability to play cute and forward thinking passes, score goals and make the most of set pieces is confusing to me. If it's a loan then fair enough I guess, but not for me.
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Couple of Hibees in work thought he was a cracking prospect, they're dying to get him back.

If Rodgers doesn't rate him then fair enough, we need to trim. We should try to get a decent sell-on clause in any deal in case he does make it.
I'd keep him, he's a good prospect.
Remember him flattening Wesley Sneijder in that friendly tournament in Turkey a couple of seasons ago. He, and another couple of the youngsters, did very well in that tournament.
I'm not massively for or against selling him - I do think we need to ship out a few.

Would be happy for another loan, if he does go to Rotherham and nails down a place then who knows.
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I'd keep him long term, another year away on loan playing first team football is what guys like him at his age need - not to be on the fringes of our first getting the odd 20 minutes every 2 or 3 months. If he can go away down south and have a McGregor-esque impact to come up here a better player and challenge for a place I'm all for it.
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Keep him :thumbsup:
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Loan him out he needs the game time and hes not going to get it this year at Celtic anyway
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