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Liam Henderson; signs for Bari.
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If we lose any game this season it won't be because Liam Henderson isn't available
We have a game coming up without Brown and rather than just put Henderson in we'll have to move Johansen, probably Armstrong and then bring in Forrest, Stokes or Commons who are all very streaky.

We should be beating teams whoever starts, my point is I don't think its worth the risk. Let him get game time here and loan him next season, don't do it now when we're a few games away from a treble.
So when Brown misses the Partick game, you'd rather play an 18 year old in that position for the first time this season than any of the far more experienced players we have in that role, and your reasoning for this is so that we don't take any unnecessary risks on the way to hopefully winning a treble?
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Sending him to Norway is a good shout as well. With the price of bevvy there it's an ideal place for his to be playing :arrr:
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We'll be fine for midfield cover. for the rest of the season.

Good move for young Liam I assume he'll get game time which is needed at this time for him.

I wonder if we will have similar practice in place with Rosenborg or another Norwegian team good that they have summer football.

What is the Norwegian league like?
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If we lose any game this season it won't be because Liam Henderson isn't available
We have a game coming up without Brown and rather than just put Henderson in we'll have to move Johansen, probably Armstrong and then bring in Forrest, Stokes or Commons who are all very streaky.

We should be beating teams whoever starts, my point is I don't think its worth the risk. Let him get game time here and loan him next season, don't do it now when we're a few games away from a treble.
So when Brown misses the Partick game, you'd rather play an 18 year old in that position for the first time this season than any of the far more experienced players we have in that role, and your reasoning for this is so that we don't take any unnecessary risks on the way to hopefully winning a treble?
I'd have no problem playing him in CM against Partick, especially seeing as he played and scored from a position a year ago. Why disrupt the team more than we have too? Johansen is far more effective in his current position than CM, I'd guess the same for Armstrong. We're stronger with those 2 in the 3 behind the striker.

If he'd stayed he could have started against Partick, then say we win the league with 4 games to go, play him then and rest Brown or Bitton for ( hopefully ) the Cup Final.

Its not a big deal, it just not something I would have done. After the previous few seasons I'm still nervous as eff about winning the treble this year. :thumbsup:
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If we are unfortunate enough to suffer a spate of injuries then a youth player like Joe Thomson will simply have to step in. It's why the academy is there. Overly worrying about cover and squad depth has led us in recent years to having young players in their early twenties with barely a first team appearance to their name.
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Sending him to Norway is a good shout as well. With the price of bevvy there it's an ideal place for his to be playing :arrr:
Beat me to it :lol:

We could actually just enrol all of youth teams in the Norwegian set up. Fewer chippies an all I daresay....
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If we lose any game this season it won't be because Liam Henderson isn't available
We have a game coming up without Brown and rather than just put Henderson in we'll have to move Johansen, probably Armstrong and then bring in Forrest, Stokes or Commons who are all very streaky.
that would be the case if henderson was still here though. absolutely no doubt about it.

henderson isnt competing for a cm role right now. even his best games for the development team this season have been behind the striker.

"bring in forrest, stokes or commons" all 3 are way ahead of henderson for a spot in the first team under Ronny and rightly so.
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So when Brown misses the Partick game, you'd rather play an 18 year old in that position for the first time this season than any of the far more experienced players we have in that role, and your reasoning for this is so that we don't take any unnecessary risks on the way to hopefully winning a treble?
I'd have no problem playing him in CM against Partick, especially seeing as he played and scored from a position a year ago. Why disrupt the team more than we have too? Johansen is far more effective in his current position than CM, I'd guess the same for Armstrong. We're stronger with those 2 in the 3 behind the striker.

If he'd stayed he could have started against Partick, then say we win the league with 4 games to go, play him then and rest Brown or Bitton for ( hopefully ) the Cup Final.

Its not a big deal, it just not something I would have done. After the previous few seasons I'm still nervous as eff about winning the treble this year. :thumbsup:
Oh well if he had one good game there a year ago then clearly he should be played there now :lol:

The simple fact is that he wouldn't have started the Jags game in Brown's place even if he'd stayed. As he wasn't ever likely to start that game, keeping him around "just in case" when we could be helping him improve as a player would just have been silly.

It'll be interesting to see where he plays for Rosenborg though, maybe if he gets a few more games in that central/defensive midfield type role he'll come back to us in the summer and be better placed to rotate with Brown and Bitton there. Right now Deila obviously doesn't see him as ready to play that role, otherwise you'd think he'd have played him there once or twice.

Liam Henderson will not be the difference between us winning or missing out on a treble. He's a good young player, but we're not talking about the second coming of Paul McStay here.
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So when Brown misses the Partick game, you'd rather play an 18 year old in that position for the first time this season than any of the far more experienced players we have in that role, and your reasoning for this is so that we don't take any unnecessary risks on the way to hopefully winning a treble?
I'd have no problem playing him in CM against Partick, especially seeing as he played and scored from a position a year ago. Why disrupt the team more than we have too? Johansen is far more effective in his current position than CM, I'd guess the same for Armstrong. We're stronger with those 2 in the 3 behind the striker.

If he'd stayed he could have started against Partick, then say we win the league with 4 games to go, play him then and rest Brown or Bitton for ( hopefully ) the Cup Final.

Its not a big deal, it just not something I would have done. After the previous few seasons I'm still nervous as eff about winning the treble this year. :thumbsup:
It's normal to have a bit of angst over winning the Treble. It is the Treble after all, something we've done three times in 68 years.

Howver, given that Liam has played in 12 of our 50 games this season, I'd say there's a really low chance his absence will adversely affect our chances, over all of the other potential banana skins.

Moving Johansen and/or Armstrong if it came to that, particularly for home games against Partick, is really not that big a deal at all.

The key games left are ICT in the cup, any potential cup final and, given that we are 5 clear with a game in hand, probably Aberdeen away. Those games will be about us turning up, in ways we have spectacularly failed to do in particularly the Scottish Cup in some recent seasons.
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We'll be fine for midfield cover. for the rest of the season.

Good move for young Liam I assume he'll get game time which is needed at this time for him.

I wonder if we will have similar practice in place with Rosenborg or another Norwegian team good that they have summer football.

What is the Norwegian league like?
Norwegian league is a decent standard. Spent a year out there a couple of years ago and watched quite a bit. The best players in that league seem to get picked up and do quite well. Rudolph Austin who is now at Leeds was a standout for Brann a few seasons ago, Johansen has been superb here, and that guy we were linked with who ended up at Pompey, forgotten his name. As many have said it'll be good for Henderson to be playing throughout the summer, most clubs focus on youth due to not having a great deal of money, and Rosenborg are one of the better teams in the division. Not to mention he'll be able to experience life in a fantastic country and a different culture. Can only be good for him as he matures!

So for me this is a good move for Henderson and for Celtic. Best of luck! :thumbsup:
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We'll be fine for midfield cover. for the rest of the season.

Good move for young Liam I assume he'll get game time which is needed at this time for him.

I wonder if we will have similar practice in place with Rosenborg or another Norwegian team good that they have summer football.

What is the Norwegian league like?
Norwegian league is a decent standard. Spent a year out there a couple of years ago and watched quite a bit. The best players in that league seem to get picked up and do quite well. Rudolph Austin who is now at Leeds was a standout for Brann a few seasons ago, Johansen has been superb here, and that guy we were linked with who ended up at Pompey, forgotten his name. As many have said it'll be good for Henderson to be playing throughout the summer, most clubs focus on youth due to not having a great deal of money, and Rosenborg are one of the better teams in the division. Not to mention he'll be able to experience life in a fantastic country and a different culture. Can only be good for him as he matures!

So for me this is a good move for Henderson and for Celtic. Best of luck! :thumbsup:
Thanks Dessy :thumbsup:

Also I imagine the woman to be lovely like Denmark?
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We'll be fine for midfield cover. for the rest of the season.

Good move for young Liam I assume he'll get game time which is needed at this time for him.

I wonder if we will have similar practice in place with Rosenborg or another Norwegian team good that they have summer football.

What is the Norwegian league like?
Norwegian league is a decent standard. Spent a year out there a couple of years ago and watched quite a bit. The best players in that league seem to get picked up and do quite well. Rudolph Austin who is now at Leeds was a standout for Brann a few seasons ago, Johansen has been superb here, and that guy we were linked with who ended up at Pompey, forgotten his name. As many have said it'll be good for Henderson to be playing throughout the summer, most clubs focus on youth due to not having a great deal of money, and Rosenborg are one of the better teams in the division. Not to mention he'll be able to experience life in a fantastic country and a different culture. Can only be good for him as he matures!

So for me this is a good move for Henderson and for Celtic. Best of luck! :thumbsup:
Thanks Dessy :thumbsup:

Also I imagine the woman to be lovely like Denmark?
Some Aarhus on them.
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I'd have no problem playing him in CM against Partick, especially seeing as he played and scored from a position a year ago. Why disrupt the team more than we have too? Johansen is far more effective in his current position than CM, I'd guess the same for Armstrong. We're stronger with those 2 in the 3 behind the striker.

If he'd stayed he could have started against Partick, then say we win the league with 4 games to go, play him then and rest Brown or Bitton for ( hopefully ) the Cup Final.

Its not a big deal, it just not something I would have done. After the previous few seasons I'm still nervous as eff about winning the treble this year. :thumbsup:
Oh well if he had one good game there a year ago then clearly he should be played there now :lol:

The simple fact is that he wouldn't have started the Jags game in Brown's place even if he'd stayed. As he wasn't ever likely to start that game, keeping him around "just in case" when we could be helping him improve as a player would just have been silly.

It'll be interesting to see where he plays for Rosenborg though, maybe if he gets a few more games in that central/defensive midfield type role he'll come back to us in the summer and be better placed to rotate with Brown and Bitton there. Right now Deila obviously doesn't see him as ready to play that role, otherwise you'd think he'd have played him there once or twice.

Liam Henderson will not be the difference between us winning or missing out on a treble. He's a good young player, but we're not talking about the second coming of Paul McStay here.
So to think a 17 year old wouldn't have progressed from last year is laughable but we're expecting him to go to Norway for 3 months and come back a better player? I think he's already good enough to be a starter for us, he's confident, talented and intelligent. I haven't been as confident about a YT player since Kennedy.

Its a fact? You know who Deila will start against Thistle? I'd expect him to shift Johansen to MF, I wouldn't claim its a fact.

Mentioning McStay is a strange one, I'm talking about keeping a kid as back up, why mention the best CM most of us will have seen in Hoops?

Anything else would be repeating myself, let's hope Brown only misses the Thistle game and Henderson comes back a better player.
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Great move for Henderson. Hopefully it works out for him and comes back a better player.

Good luck :thumbsup:
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If we lose any game this season it won't be because Liam Henderson isn't available
We have a game coming up without Brown and rather than just put Henderson in we'll have to move Johansen, probably Armstrong and then bring in Forrest, Stokes or Commons who are all very streaky.

We should be beating teams whoever starts, my point is I don't think its worth the risk. Let him get game time here and loan him next season, don't do it now when we're a few games away from a treble.
What's wrong with putting armstrong in browns position
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We'll be fine for midfield cover. for the rest of the season.

Good move for young Liam I assume he'll get game time which is needed at this time for him.

I wonder if we will have similar practice in place with Rosenborg or another Norwegian team good that they have summer football.

What is the Norwegian league like?
Norwegian league is a decent standard. Spent a year out there a couple of years ago and watched quite a bit. The best players in that league seem to get picked up and do quite well. Rudolph Austin who is now at Leeds was a standout for Brann a few seasons ago, Johansen has been superb here, and that guy we were linked with who ended up at Pompey, forgotten his name. As many have said it'll be good for Henderson to be playing throughout the summer, most clubs focus on youth due to not having a great deal of money, and Rosenborg are one of the better teams in the division. Not to mention he'll be able to experience life in a fantastic country and a different culture. Can only be good for him as he matures!

So for me this is a good move for Henderson and for Celtic. Best of luck! :thumbsup:
Thanks Dessy :thumbsup:

Also I imagine the woman to be lovely like Denmark?
Even better move for him if he gets himself a Norsk wummin. :pumptheclown:
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Rosenborg are away to Haugesund tonight, hopefully Henderson will get a run out.
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