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Callum McGregor; Called up to Scotland squad...finally
Topic Started: 16 Jul 2014, 12:00 AM (361,051 Views)
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Tries his best and is improving , agree worthy of his place before certain shysters .
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mon#1
17 Jul 2016, 02:28 PM
I think in modern football there are far less "cloggers" about and you can probably get away with being CM and be McGregor's size.

I stress I am NO way comparing him but if you look at a player like Fabregas who played CM for Arsenal. There are other examples now of smaller CM's. Possibly as tackling has become less prevalent
Agreed.

Barca have Iniesta, Busquets and Rakitic in the middle. Real Madrid have Modric and Kross, Bayern have Alonso, Vidal and Thiago. I don't really see any 'tough tackling' destroyer types in there.

The need for 'steel' and 'dig' in midfield is exaggerated, and is the classic Scottish thinking that has held our game back. You just need good players.
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Supported him when many said he wasn't good enough, glad he's getting a well deserved run in the team, this thread makes for interesting reading from the start..
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I was very pessimistic about his chances at Celtic until very recently, but I've really come round to him. He's improved an awful lot and deserves his place in the team.

Good to see a youth player make it. :)
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Was nowhere near skilful or pacey enough to play out wide or even behind the striker.

Has looked good in central midfield when played there though and definitely deserves his place at the moment.
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Limited athletic ability, good vision, decent intelligence on the ball, decent technical ability, poor decision making at times. Definitely worth a place in the match day squad and probably in the 11 ahead of some other hasbeens and malcontents.
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17 Jul 2016, 02:47 PM
mon#1
17 Jul 2016, 02:28 PM
I think in modern football there are far less "cloggers" about and you can probably get away with being CM and be McGregor's size.

I stress I am NO way comparing him but if you look at a player like Fabregas who played CM for Arsenal. There are other examples now of smaller CM's. Possibly as tackling has become less prevalent
Agreed.

Barca have Iniesta, Busquets and Rakitic in the middle. Real Madrid have Modric and Kross, Bayern have Alonso, Vidal and Thiago. I don't really see any 'tough tackling' destroyer types in there.

The need for 'steel' and 'dig' in midfield is exaggerated, and is the classic Scottish thinking that has held our game back. You just need good players.
Nobody is suggesting we need a clogger but we need someone with a bit of steel i.e. Doesn't get bullied and can win a tackle as well as play a bit.
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Certainly a capable back up and should be introduced to rest other first choice midfielders ie in the early qualifying stages of Champions League and early round cup games. his creativity would be sufficient to help beat these lower league and part time teams IMHO
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An example why you should hang in there with youth players. They're not "all the player they'll ever be" at 21 FFS.
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17 Jul 2016, 03:34 PM
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mon#1
17 Jul 2016, 02:28 PM
I think in modern football there are far less "cloggers" about and you can probably get away with being CM and be McGregor's size.

I stress I am NO way comparing him but if you look at a player like Fabregas who played CM for Arsenal. There are other examples now of smaller CM's. Possibly as tackling has become less prevalent
Agreed.

Barca have Iniesta, Busquets and Rakitic in the middle. Real Madrid have Modric and Kross, Bayern have Alonso, Vidal and Thiago. I don't really see any 'tough tackling' destroyer types in there.

The need for 'steel' and 'dig' in midfield is exaggerated, and is the classic Scottish thinking that has held our game back. You just need good players.
Nobody is suggesting we need a clogger but we need someone with a bit of steel i.e. Doesn't get bullied and can win a tackle as well as play a bit.
I know he's not that type of player but I thought Armstrong did a good job defensively yesterday. It didn't feel like a lightweight midfield with McGregor, Armstrong and Brown.
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17 Jul 2016, 03:20 PM
Was nowhere near skilful or pacey enough to play out wide or even behind the striker.

Has looked good in central midfield when played there though and definitely deserves his place at the moment.
Agree with this. :thumbsup:

Should definitely play on Wednesday and should be ahead of the likes of Bitton without a shadow of a doubt.
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17 Jul 2016, 02:49 PM
Supported him when many said he wasn't good enough, glad he's getting a well deserved run in the team, this thread makes for interesting reading from the start..
As one who said he wasn't good enough - I would be delighted to be proved wrong.

He is far better than I gave him credit for.
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He was rightly slated last season for his drink drive conviction.
RD was slated, in some quarters, for not binning him (disgrace to the club, wee fud etc) but it seemed to have a good effect on young McGregor.
He seemed to realise that he had to 'screw the heid', this was his last chance mess up again and his time with Celtic was up.

A right good few games last season and he looked like the only one who wanted to play for the jersey.
He has shown desire and determination, if he gets a run in the team hope he does not lose it.

Bitton looks to be out for Wednesday so I would give him the start and if he does well make Bitton fight for his place.
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Looked pretty shampooe out wide, but central midfield is his position. Keeps the ball moving and can take it under pressure. Sort of Iniesta in terms or style, obviously not ability, in that he can run with the ball, take it in tight areas, an eye for goal and an eye for a pass.
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Big_Bobo_Balde
17 Jul 2016, 02:49 PM
Supported him when many said he wasn't good enough, glad he's getting a well deserved run in the team, this thread makes for interesting reading from the start..
I didnt rate him and will take more than the tale end of last season and up till now to be convinced.

Initially reminded me of a few players of similar stature that came through the ranks but were never good enough to get a real chance.

Don't think if McGregor came through at the same time as the other ones he would have got the same chance chance he has.

To be fair though he has taken it at the moment and fair play to him.

More than happy to be proven wrong so good luck to him.
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mon#1
17 Jul 2016, 02:28 PM
I think in modern football there are far less "cloggers" about and you can probably get away with being CM and be McGregor's size.

I stress I am NO way comparing him but if you look at a player like Fabregas who played CM for Arsenal. There are other examples now of smaller CM's. Possibly as tackling has become less prevalent
Agreed.

Barca have Iniesta, Busquets and Rakitic in the middle. Real Madrid have Modric and Kross, Bayern have Alonso, Vidal and Thiago. I don't really see any 'tough tackling' destroyer types in there.

The need for 'steel' and 'dig' in midfield is exaggerated, and is the classic Scottish thinking that has held our game back. You just need good players.
Busquets is the best DM I've ever seen. Madrid are a far better side when Casemiro starts and, going back a few years, missed Makelele big time.
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mon#1
17 Jul 2016, 02:28 PM
I think in modern football there are far less "cloggers" about and you can probably get away with being CM and be McGregor's size.

I stress I am NO way comparing him but if you look at a player like Fabregas who played CM for Arsenal. There are other examples now of smaller CM's. Possibly as tackling has become less prevalent
Agreed.

Barca have Iniesta, Busquets and Rakitic in the middle. Real Madrid have Modric and Kross, Bayern have Alonso, Vidal and Thiago. I don't really see any 'tough tackling' destroyer types in there.

The need for 'steel' and 'dig' in midfield is exaggerated, and is the classic Scottish thinking that has held our game back. You just need good players.
Busquets is the best DM I've ever seen. Madrid are a far better side when Casemiro starts and, going back a few years, missed Makelele big time.
Unless you're a teenager or not watched a lot of football then geez peace.

Busquets the best you've seen :ffs:


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would start him over Brown and Bitton every time

unfortunately, we have a new manager - a guy that needs a result, so he will go with the old guard every time

if we get through to the next round then maybe he will have seen more of McGregor & Armstrong to have more faith in them (or a new signing in there instead)

Bitton is a coward and has chucked it - Brown is regressing every year but dosent know it and hasn't the brains to chuck it
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Busquets is the best DM I've ever seen. Madrid are a far better side when Casemiro starts and, going back a few years, missed Makelele big time.
Unless you're a teenager or not watched a lot of football then geez peace.

Busquets the best you've seen :ffs:


In my 30's and played sweeper/DM when I was younger. Sergio Busquets is the best DM I've ever seen, by a distance. Even Xavi said he was the best one touch Passer at Barca. His play acting is embarressing though.
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Unless you're a teenager or not watched a lot of football then geez peace.

Busquets the best you've seen :ffs:


In my 30's and played sweeper/DM when I was younger. Sergio Busquets is the best DM I've ever seen, by a distance. Even Xavi said he was the best one touch Passer at Barca. His play acting is embarressing though.
Redondo is the best.
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