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Callum McGregor; Called up to Scotland squad...finally
Topic Started: 16 Jul 2014, 12:00 AM (361,054 Views)
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10 May 2016, 11:49 AM
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10 May 2016, 11:36 AM
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10 May 2016, 11:32 AM

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No, he's not.

The others are seriously out of form, but I feel that's more to do with the apathy in the squad than their actual ability.

If everyone else were playing to the level's we know they are capable of, McGregor's failings would be much more apparent.

He's getting bummed up due the lack of form of others.
Apples and pears.

He's the best at what he does best. He's not at what others do best. At the fittest he could ever be Brown could not move, find space, or move the ball with the accuracy and speed that McGregor can. In a horrible, tough midfield battle, a very fit McGregor could never match a fit Brown.

That's fine and well in the SPL.

Would I be confident with McGregor in the centre of the park in a European game - certainly not.
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10 May 2016, 12:09 AM

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These posts may seem incredibly harsh given his recent form.

However I think if people were being truly honest with themselves they'd recognise that if we want to attain a certain level, we've still got to be better than what McGregor has shown on the whole. It's just about accepting a certain standard. One that either makes us a CL team, or doesn't.

That doesn't mean he should not be retained. He's played himself well above a list of other players this season. He should clearly get the chance to develop, and there is absolutely no reason why his current run in the team shouldn't continue.

On current form he is showing much more promise now than even when he was scoring a few goals at the beginning of last season. His all round game is better and he is more suited to his position now than he was last season out wide.

I still don't think he'd be anything like a first pick in a firing Celtic team that had just qualified for the Champions League. A member of the squad no doubt, but until he showed his form more consistently against the better side s- which he may well go on to do, and if so good luck to him - I'm not sure he'd be even be near most peoples realistic starting XI.
He'd be one of my first picks in our 2 lineups for the last 2 games of the season
That's not the point I am making though. He'd be in my team for the next two games, as I said in my post.

Does that mean he'd be in my starting line up in a Champions League Play Off second leg away to Dinamo Zagreb in late August? Probably not.

Why? I think we need better players to help us qualify for the Champions League and then even have a sniff of doing anything respectable while in it. I don't think the realities of our budget situation mean that stops us from having a midfield starter who is a notch above McGregor, even on his current good form.

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Apples and pears.

He's the best at what he does best. He's not at what others do best. At the fittest he could ever be Brown could not move, find space, or move the ball with the accuracy and speed that McGregor can. In a horrible, tough midfield battle, a very fit McGregor could never match a fit Brown.

That's fine and well in the SPL.

Would I be confident with McGregor in the centre of the park in a European game - certainly not.
I would not be confident of Brown in an SPL match.
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Apples and pears.

He's the best at what he does best. He's not at what others do best. At the fittest he could ever be Brown could not move, find space, or move the ball with the accuracy and speed that McGregor can. In a horrible, tough midfield battle, a very fit McGregor could never match a fit Brown.

That's fine and well in the SPL.

Would I be confident with McGregor in the centre of the park in a European game - certainly not.
Played well and scored vs Ajax
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He'd be one of my first picks in our 2 lineups for the last 2 games of the season
That's not the point I am making though. He'd be in my team for the next two games, as I said in my post.

Does that mean he'd be in my starting line up in a Champions League Play Off second leg away to Dinamo Zagreb in late August? Probably not.

Why? I think we need better players to help us qualify for the Champions League and then even have a sniff of doing anything respectable while in it. I don't think the realities of our budget situation mean that stops us from having a midfield starter who is a notch above McGregor, even on his current good form.

That all depends on who we sign in the Summer
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That's fine and well in the SPL.

Would I be confident with McGregor in the centre of the park in a European game - certainly not.
Played well and scored vs Ajax
He played number 10 that night.
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Played well and scored vs Ajax
He played number 10 that night.
Played in the deeper role in Amsterdam I think?

He gave the ball away for their goal (if memory serves) but I thought he held his own in what was his first game in that position for the first team.
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He played number 10 that night.
Played in the deeper role in Amsterdam I think?

He gave the ball away for their goal (if memory serves) but I thought he held his own in what was his first game in that position for the first team.
Allan no?
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Played in the deeper role in Amsterdam I think?

He gave the ball away for their goal (if memory serves) but I thought he held his own in what was his first game in that position for the first team.
Allan no?
That was the home game.
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He has brought some dynamism and movement to a midfield which has been absolutely moribund all season.

People saying that he won't be good enough to get us into the Champions League etc. Maybe so. But if that's true of McGregor then, based on the last two seasons, that's true of Brown, Bitton, Rogic, Armstrong and Johansen too.

I enjoy watching him play and he has really flourished since moving to his favoured position. Hopefully it's not just a flash in the pan and he can keep it up.
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Allan no?
That was the home game.
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10 May 2016, 11:39 AM
I think Tierneys emergence may have lit a bit of a fire under him.
I don't think it's so much Tierney as say Griffiths or Rogic who came in out of the cold to take a place in starting line up. One thing Ronny has shown us over these past two seasons is that if you're willing to work hard on the field and show an effort to improve your game in training, he'll give you a chance. Even now with Griffiths, although he hasn't scored one yet, it's blatantly obvious that he's spent a lot of time after training practicing his free kick technique. If he wants to nail down a first team starting place in central midfield next season, McGregor will have a lot to work on. If his attitude on the pitch is anything to go by, I'm sure he'll know this and already be working on it. At the moment, he's doing just fine and merits his place in the first team.
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I didnt rate the guy and obviously felt/feel the same way as several posters on here that he isnt good enough.

It would be interesting to see how well he manages in a team that is better organised and more motivated and beside better players.

Average players can sometimes become world beaters with the right team and manager.

Marc Albrighton being a perfect example.
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Played well and scored vs Ajax
He played number 10 that night.
Thought Rogic played number 10 that night? with armstrong and mcgregor further back if my memory serves me right.

Absolutely no qualms that mcgregor could hold his own against european opposition
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Our best player again tonight (albeit he gave the ball away badly twice).

Unlucky not to score.
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Our best player again tonight (albeit he gave the ball away badly twice).

Unlucky not to score.
Agreed. As he gains more experience and confidence in the position I am sure he will play more forward passes, but on the whole a very accomplished performance. The only one of our central midfield options I would like to see in the mix next season.
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As is obvious I'm not a massive fan but he's showing far more than others in the squad at this moment.
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Our best player again tonight (albeit he gave the ball away badly twice).

Unlucky not to score.
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He tries his best and tries to do things you'd expect decent footballers to do. Unfortunately he's one of a handful of Celtic players doing that at the moment. I'm not sure he'll ever be a total stand out but I'd think he'd look better with better players around him. Or at least a partner that actually sits
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As is obvious I'm not a massive fan but he's showing far more than others in the squad at this moment.
This :thumbsup:
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