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Callum McGregor; Called up to Scotland squad...finally
Topic Started: 16 Jul 2014, 12:00 AM (360,914 Views)
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18 Apr 2018, 12:37 PM
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18 Apr 2018, 12:36 PM
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18 Apr 2018, 12:34 PM

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There's no difference. A hun is a hun. Folk usually try to change it to bluenose when it's a family member or a mate.

Huns have no place in the Celtic end.
Okay mate.
:thumbsup: I'll keep ye right.
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18 Apr 2018, 11:33 AM
Gonga
18 Apr 2018, 11:09 AM
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18 Apr 2018, 08:13 AM

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To be honest anyone who still needs to shout about Ronny being terrible for the club, especially after the last two seasons, is a simpleton.
You're the one still obsessed with bringing him up.

Most folk have probably forgotten all about him until they read some bizarre post from you.
He gets mentioned by others far more than me, his name is brought up every single time we play poorly as if he was the sole architecht of some sort of down fall for the club. Look at the team he had on his first game, and then look at the lineup we had in his final game against Motherwell.

Forget missed qualification for a competition we get pumped in and look at it in terms of whether he left us with a good young team or not? Most managers leave or get fired and walk away from an ailing side. Ronny took the heat but he did us well by giving Tierney, McGregor, Armstrong and Griffiths their first real chance at becoming 1st team regulars, and how much as that paid off for us?

To still view him in such a critical light is silly, and it’s not the outlook I think Celtic fans should have, it’s petty and unfair on a guy who is still learning his trade. Potentially we could be on a double treble with a number of players who really got to the cut their teeth under the guy.

Unless a manager outstays his welcome for sake of a sacking bonus, or leaves is in such a state that we need 2/3 year and to rebuild again, we would do ok if all our terrible managers left us with some trophies and an experienced squad of young talented players.

Be kind, he’s one of us now after all.

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18 Apr 2018, 01:23 PM


Forget missed qualification for a competition we get pumped in


What did the Champions League ever do for us...

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18 Apr 2018, 01:23 PM


Forget missed qualification for a competition we get pumped in


What did the Champions League ever do for us...

There will be many more, and some missed qualifications too.

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Gonga
18 Apr 2018, 01:23 PM
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18 Apr 2018, 11:09 AM

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You're the one still obsessed with bringing him up.

Most folk have probably forgotten all about him until they read some bizarre post from you.
He gets mentioned by others far more than me, his name is brought up every single time we play poorly as if he was the sole architecht of some sort of down fall for the club. Look at the team he had on his first game, and then look at the lineup we had in his final game against Motherwell.

Forget missed qualification for a competition we get pumped in and look at it in terms of whether he left us with a good young team or not? Most managers leave or get fired and walk away from an ailing side. Ronny took the heat but he did us well by giving Tierney, McGregor, Armstrong and Griffiths their first real chance at becoming 1st team regulars, and how much as that paid off for us?

To still view him in such a critical light is silly, and it’s not the outlook I think Celtic fans should have, it’s petty and unfair on a guy who is still learning his trade. Potentially we could be on a double treble with a number of players who really got to the cut their teeth under the guy.

Unless a manager outstays his welcome for sake of a sacking bonus, or leaves is in such a state that we need 2/3 year and to rebuild again, we would do ok if all our terrible managers left us with some trophies and an experienced squad of young talented players.

Be kind, he’s one of us now after all.

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Forget missed qualification for a competition we get pumped in


Leaving that quite mental statement aside, the main problem here is that you're presuming that all these players would have developed to the same level under Deila that they have under Rodgers.

It's a massive leap.

Even Griffiths, who scored 40 goals in a season under Deila, has improved his all round game hugely in two years in a way that he looked unlikely to do before Rodgers came. Tierney is probably good enough that he'd have developed regardless of who we have as manager. Before Rodgers came McGregor or Armstrong leaving would have been greeted with a collective "who cares?"

Signing players isn't the same as developing and/or improving them.
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Stephane_Mahe
18 Apr 2018, 02:27 PM
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18 Apr 2018, 01:23 PM
Stephane_Mahe
18 Apr 2018, 11:33 AM

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He gets mentioned by others far more than me, his name is brought up every single time we play poorly as if he was the sole architecht of some sort of down fall for the club. Look at the team he had on his first game, and then look at the lineup we had in his final game against Motherwell.

Forget missed qualification for a competition we get pumped in and look at it in terms of whether he left us with a good young team or not? Most managers leave or get fired and walk away from an ailing side. Ronny took the heat but he did us well by giving Tierney, McGregor, Armstrong and Griffiths their first real chance at becoming 1st team regulars, and how much as that paid off for us?

To still view him in such a critical light is silly, and it’s not the outlook I think Celtic fans should have, it’s petty and unfair on a guy who is still learning his trade. Potentially we could be on a double treble with a number of players who really got to the cut their teeth under the guy.

Unless a manager outstays his welcome for sake of a sacking bonus, or leaves is in such a state that we need 2/3 year and to rebuild again, we would do ok if all our terrible managers left us with some trophies and an experienced squad of young talented players.

Be kind, he’s one of us now after all.

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Forget missed qualification for a competition we get pumped in


Leaving that quite mental statement aside, the main problem here is that you're presuming that all these players would have developed to the same level under Deila that they have under Rodgers.

It's a massive leap.

Even Griffiths, who scored 40 goals in a season under Deila, has improved his all round game hugely in two years in a way that he looked unlikely to do before Rodgers came. Tierney is probably good enough that he'd have developed regardless of who we have as manager. Before Rodgers came McGregor or Armstrong leaving would have been greeted with a collective "who cares?"

Signing players isn't the same as developing and/or improving them.
The only player who could really be compared for his time under Deila to his time under Rodgers is Brown. Club captain under both but after Deila's second season there was numerous folk on here, myself included, that thought he looked done and now look at him - POTY by an utter mile.
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Kept everything simple on Sunday. Great finish as well for his goal.

Best game Ive seen him play for us...

Underated (including by me).

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18 Apr 2018, 02:27 PM
Gonga
18 Apr 2018, 01:23 PM
Stephane_Mahe
18 Apr 2018, 11:33 AM

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He gets mentioned by others far more than me, his name is brought up every single time we play poorly as if he was the sole architecht of some sort of down fall for the club. Look at the team he had on his first game, and then look at the lineup we had in his final game against Motherwell.

Forget missed qualification for a competition we get pumped in and look at it in terms of whether he left us with a good young team or not? Most managers leave or get fired and walk away from an ailing side. Ronny took the heat but he did us well by giving Tierney, McGregor, Armstrong and Griffiths their first real chance at becoming 1st team regulars, and how much as that paid off for us?

To still view him in such a critical light is silly, and it’s not the outlook I think Celtic fans should have, it’s petty and unfair on a guy who is still learning his trade. Potentially we could be on a double treble with a number of players who really got to the cut their teeth under the guy.

Unless a manager outstays his welcome for sake of a sacking bonus, or leaves is in such a state that we need 2/3 year and to rebuild again, we would do ok if all our terrible managers left us with some trophies and an experienced squad of young talented players.

Be kind, he’s one of us now after all.

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Forget missed qualification for a competition we get pumped in


Leaving that quite mental statement aside, the main problem here is that you're presuming that all these players would have developed to the same level under Deila that they have under Rodgers.

It's a massive leap.

Even Griffiths, who scored 40 goals in a season under Deila, has improved his all round game hugely in two years in a way that he looked unlikely to do before Rodgers came. Tierney is probably good enough that he'd have developed regardless of who we have as manager. Before Rodgers came McGregor or Armstrong leaving would have been greeted with a collective "who cares?"

Signing players isn't the same as developing and/or improving them.
You can’t expect the same level of management between Ronny and Brendan.

Footballers will always raise their game for an established manager, we’ve seen it time and time again. It’s the same in any wrk environment, if you bring in higher skilled people everyone around usually improves.

Ronny would never have been able to get the performances out of Celtic that Brendan has, but then Pep would undoubtedly get performances out of our players that Brendan would struggle to. It’s not just a combination of tactics and magic words from one guy.
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Ronny's gone. Can we move on already?
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18 Apr 2018, 02:46 PM
You can’t expect the same level of management between Ronny and Brendan.

Footballers will always raise their game for an established manager, we’ve seen it time and time again.


Remember when the established manager Tony Mowbray was replaced by the rookie Neil Lennon...



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18 Apr 2018, 02:46 PM
You can’t expect the same level of management between Ronny and Brendan.

Footballers will always raise their game for an established manager, we’ve seen it time and time again.


Remember when the established manager Tony Mowbray was replaced by the rookie Neil Lennon...



Mowbray left us with a pretty awful squad and off the back of a 0-4 drubbing at St Mirren, the morale was as low as anything I remember since Black Sunday. Lenny did an amazing job in rebuilding the squad and the morale around the whole club.

Some good things will have come from Mowbray time, but by comparison Ronny Deila left us in rude health.

I just think hindsight is a good thing, and if someone leaves us in a strong position whatever it takes to get there, then it’s been worthwhile. The last two seasons have been pretty mind blowing, and that’s in some part down to the consistency this group of players has had playing together for nearly 4 years.

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18 Apr 2018, 02:59 PM
Oscar Strummer
18 Apr 2018, 02:49 PM
Gonga
18 Apr 2018, 02:46 PM
You can’t expect the same level of management between Ronny and Brendan.

Footballers will always raise their game for an established manager, we’ve seen it time and time again.


Remember when the established manager Tony Mowbray was replaced by the rookie Neil Lennon...



Mowbray left us with a pretty awful squad and off the back of a 0-4 drubbing at St Mirren, the morale was as low as anything I remember since Black Sunday. Lenny did an amazing job in rebuilding the squad and the morale around the whole club.

Some good things will have come from Mowbray time, but by comparison Ronny Deila left us in rude health.

I just think hindsight is a good thing, and if someone leaves us in a strong position whatever it takes to get there, then it’s been worthwhile. The last two seasons have been pretty mind blowing, and that’s in some part down to the consistency this group of players has had playing together for nearly 4 years.

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Shut up

No-one gives a flying one about Deila.
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18 Apr 2018, 03:03 PM
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18 Apr 2018, 02:59 PM
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18 Apr 2018, 02:49 PM

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Mowbray left us with a pretty awful squad and off the back of a 0-4 drubbing at St Mirren, the morale was as low as anything I remember since Black Sunday. Lenny did an amazing job in rebuilding the squad and the morale around the whole club.

Some good things will have come from Mowbray time, but by comparison Ronny Deila left us in rude health.

I just think hindsight is a good thing, and if someone leaves us in a strong position whatever it takes to get there, then it’s been worthwhile. The last two seasons have been pretty mind blowing, and that’s in some part down to the consistency this group of players has had playing together for nearly 4 years.

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Shut up

No-one gives a flying one about Deila.
Roll on 10IAR.

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McGregor had been at the academy long enough for his ‘boyhood’ team to be an irrelevance

He’s a Celt
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McGregor had been at the academy long enough for his ‘boyhood’ team to be an irrelevance

He’s a Celt
He’s been with us since he was about 8 I’m sure, it’s safe to say that he’s a Celtic fan.
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McGregor had been at the academy long enough for his ‘boyhood’ team to be an irrelevance

He’s a Celt
I´m sure someone who grew up with him posted on here that he comes from a ¨mixed¨ family with his dad and brother supporting huns and he and the rest of the family being Tims. Might be mis-remembering though.
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Well its better than Cal Mac.
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18 Apr 2018, 02:49 PM

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Mowbray left us with a pretty awful squad and off the back of a 0-4 drubbing at St Mirren, the morale was as low as anything I remember since Black Sunday. Lenny did an amazing job in rebuilding the squad and the morale around the whole club.

Some good things will have come from Mowbray time, but by comparison Ronny Deila left us in rude health.

I just think hindsight is a good thing, and if someone leaves us in a strong position whatever it takes to get there, then it’s been worthwhile. The last two seasons have been pretty mind blowing, and that’s in some part down to the consistency this group of players has had playing together for nearly 4 years.

:loel:

Shut up

No-one gives a flying one about Deila.
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