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Callum McGregor; Called up to Scotland squad...finally
Topic Started: 16 Jul 2014, 12:00 AM (360,926 Views)
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16 Feb 2018, 10:06 AM
I do agree that he is more suited to European football though.
Don't get that. Football is football is football. You're either good at it or not. McGregor is good at it most of the time, no matter where it is played. Yes he does seem to play better in big games, but that says more about his temperament and includes cup finals, huns games, league deciders etc., not just Europe.
Football is football yes. However players are required to perform different tactical roles at a different level. McGregor isn’t the most creative player but keeps the ball well and has a goal in him. This is suited for us in Europe as it allows us to retain possession. Whereas in the league against more packed defences McGregor isn’t really the type of player to break them down and we have players who can perform the role of keeping possession better than him. I think part of our issue this season is that Roberts and Rogic are our two most creative players and we’ve been relying on other players to play that role who aren’t really suited to it. I think that’s why Sinclair has struggled so much this season performance wise, he’s being relied upon to be the creator in our team and that’s not really his game.
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16 Feb 2018, 09:05 PM
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16 Feb 2018, 10:06 AM
I do agree that he is more suited to European football though.
Don't get that. Football is football is football. You're either good at it or not. McGregor is good at it most of the time, no matter where it is played. Yes he does seem to play better in big games, but that says more about his temperament and includes cup finals, huns games, league deciders etc., not just Europe.
Football is football yes. However players are required to perform different tactical roles at a different level. McGregor isn’t the most creative player but keeps the ball well and has a goal in him. This is suited for us in Europe as it allows us to retain possession. Whereas in the league against more packed defences McGregor isn’t really the type of player to break them down and we have players who can perform the role of keeping possession better than him. I think part of our issue this season is that Roberts and Rogic are our two most creative players and we’ve been relying on other players to play that role who aren’t really suited to it. I think that’s why Sinclair has struggled so much this season performance wise, he’s being relied upon to be the creator in our team and that’s not really his game.
Even with that he's done fantastically stats wise. Brendan did say the focus has been on functionality over flair recently due to the injuries so I think you're right.
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Naw but somecarrot has called him Cal in this thread so just get it all to eff
Edited by Nakasleftfoot, 17 Feb 2018, 03:02 PM.
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16 Feb 2018, 08:39 PM
I actually like McGregor.

He does well in big games - particularly Europe and the huns recently. He's not always box office, he can be occasionally frustrating, but never hides and plays any role asked of him. Left back in the cup final last year being a case in point.

He's not by any means a number 10. He's more suited to Broony's area of the park I think, but we have Broony for that.

I'm also not suggesting that McGregor's style of play is similar to Brown's, but his ability to keep the ball moving in the middle of the park lends itself well to something less advanced than a number 10.

I really don't get the desire to slate him at the first opportunity.
Good post, not sure about him best placed as a deep lying midfielder but agree with everything else, he has an adaptability though and for sure be could do a job in there if required.

The pouncing pundits awaiting his every mistake are proving tiresome now, we've seen enough to know he adds quality to our pool yet the critics analyse him weekly in repetitive terms. Every player in our squad flits in and out of form throughout a season and Callum isn't the worst for it, he probably has bigger moments than many of our other players both good and bad, repeatedly gets in to areas where he can damage the opposition and he gambles when allowed the freedom, you wouldn't want to change that in him.
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Happy we have him, seems to be a humble guy, works hard and gives us something different, particularly in Europe where retaining possession is a bit of a big deal.
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17 Feb 2018, 03:26 PM
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16 Feb 2018, 08:39 PM
I actually like McGregor.

He does well in big games - particularly Europe and the huns recently. He's not always box office, he can be occasionally frustrating, but never hides and plays any role asked of him. Left back in the cup final last year being a case in point.

He's not by any means a number 10. He's more suited to Broony's area of the park I think, but we have Broony for that.

I'm also not suggesting that McGregor's style of play is similar to Brown's, but his ability to keep the ball moving in the middle of the park lends itself well to something less advanced than a number 10.

I really don't get the desire to slate him at the first opportunity.
Good post, not sure about him best placed as a deep lying midfielder but agree with everything else, he has an adaptability though and for sure be could do a job in there if required.

The pouncing pundits awaiting his every mistake are proving tiresome now, we've seen enough to know he adds quality to our pool yet the critics analyse him weekly in repetitive terms. Every player in our squad flits in and out of form throughout a season and Callum isn't the worst for it, he probably has bigger moments than many of our other players both good and bad, repeatedly gets in to areas where he can damage the opposition and he gambles when allowed the freedom, you wouldn't want to change that in him.
I didn't say he was a deep lying midfielder? :ponder:
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Seems to be a strange mentality that if you are not part of a desired 1st XI then you must be inferior.

In truth there will be several teams within our squad who would perform differently against certain opposition.

He’s come through the ranks and scores big goals and in an era of silly money and stupid egos it’s just great to see a kid coming through and making and impact at such a high level.

We don’t have any players who can go a whole season without losing form.
Edited by Gonga, 17 Feb 2018, 05:25 PM.
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17 Feb 2018, 05:21 PM
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16 Feb 2018, 08:39 PM
I actually like McGregor.

He does well in big games - particularly Europe and the huns recently. He's not always box office, he can be occasionally frustrating, but never hides and plays any role asked of him. Left back in the cup final last year being a case in point.

He's not by any means a number 10. He's more suited to Broony's area of the park I think, but we have Broony for that.

I'm also not suggesting that McGregor's style of play is similar to Brown's, but his ability to keep the ball moving in the middle of the park lends itself well to something less advanced than a number 10.

I really don't get the desire to slate him at the first opportunity.
Good post, not sure about him best placed as a deep lying midfielder but agree with everything else, he has an adaptability though and for sure be could do a job in there if required.

The pouncing pundits awaiting his every mistake are proving tiresome now, we've seen enough to know he adds quality to our pool yet the critics analyse him weekly in repetitive terms. Every player in our squad flits in and out of form throughout a season and Callum isn't the worst for it, he probably has bigger moments than many of our other players both good and bad, repeatedly gets in to areas where he can damage the opposition and he gambles when allowed the freedom, you wouldn't want to change that in him.
I didn't say he was a deep lying midfielder? :ponder:
Oops, picked it up wrong, I thought you were indicating he could play the role Brown's taken up since Bitton lost his place, the defence protection.
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I didn't say he was a deep lying midfielder? :ponder:
Oops, picked it up wrong, I thought you were indicating he could play the role Brown's taken up since Bitton lost his place, the defence protection.
No, I think he operates best slap bang in the middle. Not a number 10, not a holding player.

I'd not think of Brown as a deeper player by nature. I think he's naturally a box to box player.

I think McGregor is very effective linking the middle and last thirds of the pitch.
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Oops, picked it up wrong, I thought you were indicating he could play the role Brown's taken up since Bitton lost his place, the defence protection.
No, I think he operates best slap bang in the middle. Not a number 10, not a holding player.

I'd not think of Brown as a deeper player by nature. I think he's naturally a box to box player.

I think McGregor is very effective linking the middle and last thirds of the pitch.
His impact is beyond that of Armstrong for me and I'd just as soon see Callum in there now, Stuart had a good spell but his confidence seems to plummet at length.

Brown was naturally box to box but I don't see him like that nowadays, he does have a dabble now and again but you'll find him deep feeding off the defenders and patrolling that anchor area in front more often than not. Against the higher quality sides I think Brendan may just have have found the right midfield setup to help out and work with him Thursday gone.
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No, I think he operates best slap bang in the middle. Not a number 10, not a holding player.

I'd not think of Brown as a deeper player by nature. I think he's naturally a box to box player.

I think McGregor is very effective linking the middle and last thirds of the pitch.
His impact is beyond that of Armstrong for me and I'd just as soon see Callum in there now, Stuart had a good spell but his confidence seems to plummet at length.

Brown was naturally box to box but I don't see him like that nowadays, he does have a dabble now and again but you'll find him deep feeding off the defenders and patrolling that anchor area in front more often than not. Against the higher quality sides I think Brendan may just have have found the right midfield setup to help out and work with him Thursday gone.
I was surprised that he played Kouassi on the right of the MF 3, I thought he might give Brown more freedom to get forward but the way we set up worked perfectly.

It was interesting to hear the manager talk about McGregor being rested for a few games, he said he looked knackered. The break certainly brought the best out of him.
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Think he supported Dembele and Forrest really well and took his goal really well, on form like it or not he is contrabutes well in the team, I don't get the hate for him to be honest, never hides works hard closes the opposition well, similar to Tierney Forrest Armstrong and should get similar support, hopefully this performance and goal he will now get that,
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Not his biggest fan but can see why he is in Rodgers team. Said before he keeps the ball well.

Not been that poor tbh. V Sevco for instance he played well & I got shot down for saying so on here.
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His impact is beyond that of Armstrong for me and I'd just as soon see Callum in there now, Stuart had a good spell but his confidence seems to plummet at length.

Brown was naturally box to box but I don't see him like that nowadays, he does have a dabble now and again but you'll find him deep feeding off the defenders and patrolling that anchor area in front more often than not. Against the higher quality sides I think Brendan may just have have found the right midfield setup to help out and work with him Thursday gone.
I was surprised that he played Kouassi on the right of the MF 3, I thought he might give Brown more freedom to get forward but the way we set up worked perfectly.

It was interesting to hear the manager talk about McGregor being rested for a few games, he said he looked knackered. The break certainly brought the best out of him.
Kouassi looks to bring mobility and some destructive prowess, he looks a fantastic talent and I can only hope we'll learn more about what hell bring in the weeks ahead, very exciting prospect, he looks to have a fair bit in his arsenal.
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17 Feb 2018, 06:48 PM

I don't get the hate for him to be honest


What hate ?

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The Kenny Miller reference was a bit snide though, eh?
In what way? Kenny Miller was a far more effective player in europe, and internationally, for us than he was domestically.
You could have said "he's more suited to European football like Dembele". :ph43r:
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Because Kenny Miller is a disgusting rodent, obvs.

There are other examples you could have used, like Jarosik or Samaras.
Samaras was fantastic at every level :wub:
Amen.
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I love this thread :lol:
I hate this thread.

Just keeping the the running theme going
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