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Callum McGregor; Called up to Scotland squad...finally
Topic Started: 16 Jul 2014, 12:00 AM (360,936 Views)
allthewine
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25 Jan 2018, 02:23 AM
Ste
25 Jan 2018, 12:46 AM
A lot better off the bench than he is when he starts.

He was getting himself in amongst the goals last season and early this season but its all dried up. Someone described him as being like a wall in another thread and it was bang on.
That was my thoughts too, over a number of recent games. Showing for the ball and not even thinking about turning and playing the ball forward. The constant playing the ball back to where it came from really slows down any forward momentum we have. It's like a safe option he's happy with, but it's one of the reasons we haven't been playing any kind of flowing football this season. It's only this season he's been doing it, and it seems to me he's one of the players who's confidence has taken a bit of a nosedive after the clubbing in the Champions League games.

He has lots to offer, but recent performances suggest he needs a rest from the starting 11. Who should replace him? Kouasi would seem the obvious choice, and push Ncham further up the park. Talk of Kouasi going on loan is surely nonsense. He's been decent when he gets on.
Keeping possession is pretty important. I think that's why he is in the team. Once we get a number 10 he will be back on the bench.
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allthewine
25 Jan 2018, 11:09 AM
Keeping possession is pretty important.
that is one of football's great overused cliches. Possession is only good if it's effective. You can have the ball all day long and do nothing with it ( see Arsenal most weeks).
I remember MON saying after a game we'd won that we played better when we didn't have the ball, which seemingly contradicts everything about the notion of possession being important.

Taking this back to McGregor, he is the worst in our team for passing the ball back where it came from. As one guy said earlier, he's like a wall. What this does, other than allow defences to get properly organised is beyond my ken. Only once on Tuesday did he do anything positive, in the first half when he turned quickly and ran at the defence. Nothing came of it,but it was a perfect example of what moving forward does.
I've never been a fan of McGregor, and his current lack of form is highlighted because of the injuries to others, notably Rogic and Armstrong.
We desperately need a proper creative midfielder to play alongside Brown and Ntcham if Rogic isn't available. Hopefully that will happen in the next few days :twitch: , and McGregor can return to his natural bench habitat.
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fatboab
25 Jan 2018, 11:28 AM
allthewine
25 Jan 2018, 11:09 AM
Keeping possession is pretty important.
that is one of football's great overused cliches. Possession is only good if it's effective. You can have the ball all day long and do nothing with it ( see Arsenal most weeks).
I remember MON saying after a game we'd won that we played better when we didn't have the ball, which seemingly contradicts everything about the notion of possession being important.

Taking this back to McGregor, he is the worst in our team for passing the ball back where it came from. As one guy said earlier, he's like a wall. What this does, other than allow defences to get properly organised is beyond my ken. Only once on Tuesday did he do anything positive, in the first half when he turned quickly and ran at the defence. Nothing came of it,but it was a perfect example of what moving forward does.
I've never been a fan of McGregor, and his current lack of form is highlighted because of the injuries to others, notably Rogic and Armstrong.
We desperately need a proper creative midfielder to play alongside Brown and Ntcham if Rogic isn't available. Hopefully that will happen in the next few days :twitch: , and McGregor can return to his natural bench habitat.
I think we try and keep possession for possessions sake. And in bad areas at that,with players who aren’t very comfortable doing so. We can walk off the park with at HT with 70% + possession but having carved out very few chances. More likely to play ourselves into bother than cut a team open. Very deliberate and pedestrian.
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fatboab
25 Jan 2018, 11:28 AM
allthewine
25 Jan 2018, 11:09 AM
Keeping possession is pretty important.
I've never been a fan of McGregor
Really? I hadn't noticed :ph43r:

Yeah he's good at coming on and keeping the play ticking over as a sub, occasionally he has played well as a creative MF but he should never be starting this many games. He's doing more harm than good atm, Edouard looks like his natural game is to drop deeper and link play, give him a go there behind Griffiths, couldn't be any worse than McGregor.
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25 Jan 2018, 11:36 AM
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25 Jan 2018, 11:28 AM
allthewine
25 Jan 2018, 11:09 AM
Keeping possession is pretty important.
that is one of football's great overused cliches. Possession is only good if it's effective. You can have the ball all day long and do nothing with it ( see Arsenal most weeks).
I remember MON saying after a game we'd won that we played better when we didn't have the ball, which seemingly contradicts everything about the notion of possession being important.

Taking this back to McGregor, he is the worst in our team for passing the ball back where it came from. As one guy said earlier, he's like a wall. What this does, other than allow defences to get properly organised is beyond my ken. Only once on Tuesday did he do anything positive, in the first half when he turned quickly and ran at the defence. Nothing came of it,but it was a perfect example of what moving forward does.
I've never been a fan of McGregor, and his current lack of form is highlighted because of the injuries to others, notably Rogic and Armstrong.
We desperately need a proper creative midfielder to play alongside Brown and Ntcham if Rogic isn't available. Hopefully that will happen in the next few days :twitch: , and McGregor can return to his natural bench habitat.
I think we try and keep possession for possessions sake. And in bad areas at that,with players who aren’t very comfortable doing so. We can walk off the park with at HT with 70% + possession but having carved out very few chances. More likely to play ourselves into bother than cut a team open. Very deliberate and pedestrian.
we keep possession to try and tire teams out.
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25 Jan 2018, 11:56 AM
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fatboab
25 Jan 2018, 11:28 AM

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I think we try and keep possession for possessions sake. And in bad areas at that,with players who aren’t very comfortable doing so. We can walk off the park with at HT with 70% + possession but having carved out very few chances. More likely to play ourselves into bother than cut a team open. Very deliberate and pedestrian.
we keep possession to try and tire teams out.
That’s rarely going to work against anyone half decent, and it’s no great to watch. A bit homer when he was doing the boxing 😂

Teams have acclimatised to our way of playing, we could be doing with a wee change.
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25 Jan 2018, 11:59 AM
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we keep possession to try and tire teams out.
That’s rarely going to work against anyone half decent, and it’s no great to watch. A bit homer when he was doing the boxing 😂

Teams have acclimatised to our way of playing, we could be doing with a wee change.
Homer :lol: :thumbsup:

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25 Jan 2018, 11:28 AM
allthewine
25 Jan 2018, 11:09 AM
Keeping possession is pretty important.
that is one of football's great overused cliches. Possession is only good if it's effective. You can have the ball all day long and do nothing with it ( see Arsenal most weeks).
I remember MON saying after a game we'd won that we played better when we didn't have the ball, which seemingly contradicts everything about the notion of possession being important.

Taking this back to McGregor, he is the worst in our team for passing the ball back where it came from. As one guy said earlier, he's like a wall. What this does, other than allow defences to get properly organised is beyond my ken. Only once on Tuesday did he do anything positive, in the first half when he turned quickly and ran at the defence. Nothing came of it,but it was a perfect example of what moving forward does.
I've never been a fan of McGregor, and his current lack of form is highlighted because of the injuries to others, notably Rogic and Armstrong.
We desperately need a proper creative midfielder to play alongside Brown and Ntcham if Rogic isn't available. Hopefully that will happen in the next few days :twitch: , and McGregor can return to his natural bench habitat.
I am not disagreeing with you regarding, McGregor. I am just pointing out why I think he is in the team. He keeps the ball well. Even though as you rightly say 9 times out of 10 he plays the safe pass.
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25 Jan 2018, 11:56 AM
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25 Jan 2018, 11:36 AM
fatboab
25 Jan 2018, 11:28 AM

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I think we try and keep possession for possessions sake. And in bad areas at that,with players who aren’t very comfortable doing so. We can walk off the park with at HT with 70% + possession but having carved out very few chances. More likely to play ourselves into bother than cut a team open. Very deliberate and pedestrian.
we keep possession to try and tire teams out.
If that really is the reason for our recycling/ back passing, then we can't expect to get results in Europe , where we are up against teams who are every bit as fit/ much fitter than us.
We have lost the art of attacking relentlessly this season, partly due to key players being injured, but also due to the oft repeated mantra that " a pass back is the first pass of the next attack".
Our players now have a pass back as Default setting, and there's none worse than McGregor in this respect.
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25 Jan 2018, 11:56 AM
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fatboab
25 Jan 2018, 11:28 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
I think we try and keep possession for possessions sake. And in bad areas at that,with players who aren’t very comfortable doing so. We can walk off the park with at HT with 70% + possession but having carved out very few chances. More likely to play ourselves into bother than cut a team open. Very deliberate and pedestrian.
we keep possession to try and tire teams out.
Annoyingly our areas of possession allow opposition teams to take a breather.
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we keep possession to try and tire teams out.
Annoyingly our areas of possession allow opposition teams to take a breather.
And frequently put us under unnecessary pressure.
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fatboab
25 Jan 2018, 11:28 AM

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I think we try and keep possession for possessions sake. And in bad areas at that,with players who aren’t very comfortable doing so. We can walk off the park with at HT with 70% + possession but having carved out very few chances. More likely to play ourselves into bother than cut a team open. Very deliberate and pedestrian.
we keep possession to try and tire teams out.
And it seems to have worked quite well in most of our last 75 games. Or have we just been lucky?
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Please. No more.
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How he manages to see out 90 mins game after game is beyond me.
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27 Jan 2018, 06:36 PM
How he manages to see out 90 mins game after game is beyond me.
Probably down to using two subs by half time today, otherwise he's been poor for a while now.
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That pass to Forrest in the first half was ridiculous. Overhot on a counter attack under no pressure.

Needs benched
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He's not good enough to be a first-team regular for Celtic.
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He was fine today? He is not a spectacular footballer and I think we can do better but his form is not as poor as people say. Musounda coming in will mean Cal Mac returns to the bench.

He is a decent enough squad player.
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That pass to Forrest in the first half was ridiculous. Overhot on a counter attack under no pressure.

Needs benched
Apart from the guy who was right on his back?
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