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| Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,928 Views) | |
| murphio | 28 Aug 2014, 09:58 PM Post #1901 |
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Could start a row in an empty room
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Yep, that appears to be exactly what the strategy is. Don't worry lads, we'll manage this decline as best we can, wait for the huns to come back to regenerate some domestic interest and throw enough mud at the wall in terms of cheap signings and loan deals in the hope some might stick. Oh, and pray to god we get a generous draw in the qualifiers. Fingers crossed for next year. |
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| Lubo's Left Boot 2012 Ltd. | 28 Aug 2014, 09:59 PM Post #1902 |
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First-team starter
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There is not too much to get excited about with Celtic football these days. At the end of the day its about entertainment, and there is not much of that with the current squad and manager. If there is a policy of developing youth and buying cheap fair enough. However its not working. Those executing this policy are producing absolutely crap football. They should be sacked. On the management side of things we have basically disintrested managers that geniunley have Celtic at the heart and where sickened off the job. MON, WGS, Lenny. We've got Roy Keane telling us thanks but no thanks. Sorry, this isn't good enough for me. |
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| tinsoldier | 28 Aug 2014, 10:02 PM Post #1903 |
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Older than dirt
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Regarding the recruitment policy we currently operate, after Virgil is sold it looks as though that will be it. Who else is going to be sold on from this bunch? |
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| Ron Swanson | 28 Aug 2014, 10:03 PM Post #1904 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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Yet there will be many who line up to swallow his garbage. |
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| kearnsy | 28 Aug 2014, 10:07 PM Post #1905 |
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First-team starter
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Can't believe he is that arrogant that he believes him spouting crap about prudence tomorrow will work. I can hear his rally cry We need the support now more than ever( ie we need your money) Why doesn't he take a pay cut He is not delivering The malcontent is getting back to where we were when the boycott occurred with the Kelly's and whites. |
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| murphio | 28 Aug 2014, 10:08 PM Post #1906 |
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Could start a row in an empty room
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Correct. Once he goes it's all over. Our major problem then is not clubs banging down our door wanting to our buy players but getting rid of the likes of Balde, Pukki, Boerrigter, Rogic and Kayal who are a massive drain on the wagebill. |
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| paulfg42 | 28 Aug 2014, 10:09 PM Post #1907 |
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Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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Cyclical? Some people will believe anything. Here's another cliche: speculate to accumulate. |
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| Ron Swanson | 28 Aug 2014, 10:13 PM Post #1908 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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There are a couple of posters on here who seem relatively ITK that have heard we are actively downsizing as that is the cycle we are in. They are screwing the fanbase & they just do not give two effs. |
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| daleybhoy | 28 Aug 2014, 10:14 PM Post #1909 |
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First-team captain
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"What's for dinner tonight, love?" "Gruel again" "Braw I love the gruel me" "aye slurp it down son, slurp it down" |
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| sevilliano | 28 Aug 2014, 10:34 PM Post #1910 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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Just newly on board
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| GreenWhiteAndCeltic | 28 Aug 2014, 10:44 PM Post #1911 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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No one is expecting PL to splash 15 million on new players, just to actually identify and sign talented players for the positions we need. Even if that means spending 3-5 million on one player. |
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| Ron Swanson | 28 Aug 2014, 10:47 PM Post #1912 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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I expect him to do the square root of eff all when it comes to identifying players for Celtic. |
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| ChillerBee | 28 Aug 2014, 10:51 PM Post #1913 |
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Time for the medicine
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Aye? Concerning if we're cutting our youth development budget. We don't spend enough as it is. |
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| CaltonBhoy1967 | 28 Aug 2014, 11:29 PM Post #1914 |
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Billy McNeill - "Mr Celtic"
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He should have feck all to do with identifying players. This "cyclical" pish is doing my breests in. PL has manufactured this situation by perching himself as DOF whilst gambling and making a complete arse of it!!! He appointed Deila and he interferes all over the shop,has disconnected a large chunk of the Support,has had season ticket sales diminishing year after year when the figures given include many kids tickets at £50 a pop and to crown it all he has just cost the Club £15-£20million + despite having had two bites at it - Any other CEO would be down the road for that loss of revenue alone. Edited by CaltonBhoy1967, 28 Aug 2014, 11:30 PM.
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| searcher52 | 28 Aug 2014, 11:31 PM Post #1915 |
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You can observe a lot by just watching
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Be interesting to hear what he (PL) has to say at the media love in tomorrow. |
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| thetrurolion | 28 Aug 2014, 11:34 PM Post #1916 |
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First-team starter
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It's clear that there has been a policy of prudence since Seville. This has led to a lack of quality-down sizing, if you will. Much of this seems to be down to the wage structure and the desire to sell on for a profit. Great when it works-wanyama, forster, hooper etc. however, too many poor purchases up front have seen money squandered . Surely going for one big signing for 5 or 6 million as opposed to 3 or 4 signings for less in the hope they work out would be advantageous? Aside from the increased quality on the field, the feel good factor of having an icon, somebody to sell shirts etc must be a better business model. Balde, pukki, stokes, griffiths, bangurra, boerichter...not seen many shirts with those names. Yet perversely, The short sighted and penny pinching nature of the board has cost us a fortune! Think back to the failure to sign fletcher seeing the huns win 3 in a row in a period we should have buried them! This is the same attitude. No one wants to see us going heavily into debt, but what's the point if a healthy bank balance and empty shirts and empty seats in the stands? To me, it is a betrayal of the support and the standards that were set long ago. Safely, I cannot see it changing whilst Dd and lawell are there. |
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| Barnsey | 28 Aug 2014, 11:36 PM Post #1917 |
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Considering retirement
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He can lie out of both sides of his mouth at the same time and every word that comes out is a lie including the words "and" and "the". Edited by Barnsey, 28 Aug 2014, 11:37 PM.
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| Ned Rise | 28 Aug 2014, 11:40 PM Post #1918 |
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These boots were made for hunbustin'
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It's a terrible strategy anyway, that has Celtic as little more than a conveyor belt for good players and a stopping point for terrible-to-average players. My days of having football heroes are long gone, but I'd say there's little chance of youngsters idolising anyone these day. Very quickly they'll realise that they're off with a bag of swag on their back. Within two games, we had people saying VVD or Wanyama etc were 'too good for us' and speculating about the kind of cash they'd bring it. I appreciate it is part of football, but people are obsessed by it. It's only good for who we can get to replace the players lost. It should not be the name of the game. Putting good teams on the park and giving them a fighting chance is what it's all about. With it comes the big nights, bigger crowds, more youngsters interested instead of watching fecking Chelsea or Man City instead. I get the feeling that the board think, it's been a good party, but time to get the hoover out. Edited by Ned Rise, 28 Aug 2014, 11:41 PM.
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| sevilliano | 28 Aug 2014, 11:41 PM Post #1919 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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Iydllwild posted yesterday that he couldn't bring himself to post the reasons why he'd ended up where he is now with Celtic and thinking it through I can see why but drink has been taken and I'm not angry but sad However I think I'm a few years further down the road of cynicism but I do think the case for Celtic being far better than it is can be made without being sentimental Born into a Celtic supporting family but whose first memories are feyenoord (not paying players?) and thistle whilst young at time of glory years it really is in subconscious rather than in memory The real shock was healthy competition of early to mid 80s giving way to the Holmes Murray souness world where we we effed and the families who owned Celtic could not cope with banked backed entrepreneurs Celtic in my formative years were a team filled with likes of burns provan Nicholas mccluskey - really nowhere on a par with 65-74 but a football team you could identify with and would make an effort to see because it was entertaining (albeit not when keepers let us down time and again) We were not european giants but we were competent - losing to notts forest or sociedad was no disgrace and was close fought with good teams against us So I don't dream of European glory and I've sat and watched the corrupt hun eff us through dark days at hampden ibrox etc etc The arrival of fergus didn't fill me with joy cause I could see from working for him that his driver was his return That it coincided with us stopping 10iar was luck for us and fergus because honestly he wouldn't change short term for long term but whilst that is commendable that strategy is medium long term and not fixated on short term in his reign Things have gone far askew since then Fergus put 9m of his own money into Celtic for a return and having got it left Dermot took up the slack but provides no direction or strategy since then In basic terms dermot debted up the business under mon to compete with the hun and enjoyed high profile euro success then left it to his accountant since 2004 to drive the debt and business down But in the meantime the euphoria of saving the club stopping 10 and achieving relative success in Europe and watching the demise of the hun over the last 8 years we've seen a club going nowhere And really when the music stops you see that no one has been watching the football shop, that no one has kept alive the relationship between Celtic it's fans and football We have moved from the useless rump of whytes and Kellys trying to play at business whilst extracting their inheritance on a bi weekly basis through our VC fergus to end up at a useless rump practised at property development, remuneration committees but with no commitment to football or Celtic I think these guys who control, run our club fail because they either they don't give a flying one or can't be bothered looking at what makes a club work decade after decade - and it's not the balance sheet in their language it's the intangible Not because they are taking the piss over money - dermot could make more elsewhere and pl could make close to what he earns at Celtic - but because they don't get it - they are focused on finance My family in part supported Celtic because it was a catholic club but for a large part because it was a football club who played football - not kick and rush of the hun, not the bigotry of the hun And that held true through the 80s as the legacy of lions and quality street filtered through Since then though despite the slogans we've become just another club and as the corporate boys play their games we've moved further and further from being a football club based on the values of stein So we fail as as corporate money making machine in a tiny country marginalised in uefa terms But more so we fail because the core has been lost - of developing the identity of Celtic, of football, of youth, of community, of charity We have football in the community officers at Celtic being tasked with being profit centres !! We have first team players being paid 1/10 of the CEO, it's effin mental how far away we've got from doing the basics right 60,000 people will come and support this football team because of a legacy and it's a good legacy If only they understood that if they made a fist of understanding that they have to make the best of the environment we operate in by being a truly exceptional football club from youth upwards that would be enough Instead in some kind of blairite new Celtic they try to persuade us that their way is the only way and we should be thankful as they spout pish and take their money year after year leaving others trying to work off fundamentally flawed club to shield them Unlike idyll wild eff it I'll post it |
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| Ned Rise | 28 Aug 2014, 11:47 PM Post #1920 |
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These boots were made for hunbustin'
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Fine post! |
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