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| Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,932 Views) | |
| brianlara67 | 27 Aug 2014, 08:34 PM Post #1821 |
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Getting on a bit
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I've got a new one for him to trot out in a press release. "The strategy the Board have enacted at Celtic Football Club has ensured we have passed the UEFA Fair Play Regulations" (note 1 *)" *note 1 - as long as we qualify for Europe. Test does not apply if not playing in Europe Edited by brianlara67, 27 Aug 2014, 08:35 PM.
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| Asgardstreasure | 27 Aug 2014, 08:41 PM Post #1822 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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I think our biggest problem atm and has been since hooper left is the lack of a good striker. If we'd had that last night, we'd be in the hat for the CL I believe. I haven't added it all up, but actually the board did make available to NL several million pounds to find a striker. The wages and transfer fees could be as much as £10m. And NL got nowhere. Now, and it's just speculation on my part, as the end of last season approached , it would have been plain to both NL and the board that a striker was needed. My guess is that NL was told, informally, that the board would not provide additional funds for a striker and that he would have to sell to raise cash for that purpose. If the board took that view, it's not one which I would regard as unreasonable. They had already released a fairly substantial sum , and yet it seemed that the club was no further forward in improving that position since hooper left. Much as I admire NL both as a human being and a manager, I'm afraid I cannot fault the reasoning of the board if it decided that they couldn't justify releasing further sums to him for the purchase of a striker. If NL was left in that position, I'm not surprised that he resigned and some of his comments after the legia tie hinted at some disquiet between himself and the board regarding squad investment. Where the board have really let me down is the lack of investment ahead of the CL campaign. They know that CL participation is vital to retain fans' interest. It really is a massive deal for the club. If they had the confidence in RD to appoint him, then they should have given him money immediately to start bringing a few starter quality players into the squad and a decent wedge over and above that for a striker. Probably about £10m all in....our share of the fraser forster money and a wee bit on top. What a difference that could have made for us. Edited by Asgardstreasure, 27 Aug 2014, 08:43 PM.
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| ChiliPepper | 27 Aug 2014, 08:49 PM Post #1823 |
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Getting on a bit
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I don't think that the system we operate has to change entirely as it's the only way we can get any of the EPL silly money. But they are effing shampooe at using that system. |
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| Willie Wonka | 27 Aug 2014, 08:49 PM Post #1824 |
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Slavery fled, oh glorious dead
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I'm confused, are you saying they were right not to give Lennon money for a striker but then saying they should have spent to get us into the CL? Fwiw, we have spent plenty on strikers. Just not on a A striker. 1.5m for each for pukki, derk, balde gives you 4.5m, adding the roughly 500k banger cost and you have 5m. The problem then is a 5m striker wants more than the current wage cap which seems now to be nearer 15k pw than 25k. For some players in some positions you need to go the extra mile. PL talks it well enough. Edited by Willie Wonka, 27 Aug 2014, 08:52 PM.
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| FenianJack | 27 Aug 2014, 08:55 PM Post #1825 |
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Getting on a bit
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Charlie Nick tore the board (and Efe and Izzy) a new one on SSN just now. Reckons the club have lost the fans. KDS log in. |
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| Asgardstreasure | 27 Aug 2014, 09:02 PM Post #1826 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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I said I can't fault the reasoning of the board if they refused NL further funds for a striker. If that's how things unfolded then it was a subtle invitation for NL's resignation as he couldn't prepare for the CL without bringing in a new striker. But having brought a new manager in they should have had a decent budget in place to start adding some quality immediately and show the fans that the club tries as far as possible to match their ambitions. |
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| mr boots | 27 Aug 2014, 09:10 PM Post #1827 |
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Mes que un #Tranny
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Aye, we've had a much longer run of it and, although being able to say we had won a European cup twice, my wallet wouldn't allow for the inevitable fleecing our marketing department would make of both.
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| Mubo Loravcik | 27 Aug 2014, 09:14 PM Post #1828 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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Mr Lawwell, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability.
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| modest mouse | 27 Aug 2014, 09:21 PM Post #1829 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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For all folk are blaming the board for downsizing, our starting XI and subs cost way way more than Maribor's. In fact I'm struggling to see any transfer fees paid for any of their team. |
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| tinsoldier | 27 Aug 2014, 09:23 PM Post #1830 |
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Older than dirt
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Which makes our defeat all the more embarrasing
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| Willie Wonka | 27 Aug 2014, 09:31 PM Post #1831 |
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Slavery fled, oh glorious dead
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Thought so. Lennon should have been allowed to spend the lot on one or two decent strikers, with one in jan 13 and the other in the following summer when hooper left and I doubt we'd be in this mess. |
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| Busa Bhoy | 27 Aug 2014, 09:41 PM Post #1832 |
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First-team captain
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i thought that last year but soon realised that it wasnt the case. one might think they are getting us to a level where there will be a challenge.
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| Tubbytubthumper | 27 Aug 2014, 09:42 PM Post #1833 |
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Club Captain
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Bottom line is the board have shown they don't trust Ronny. Arguably this is understandable however I cannot recall any manager in our history being provided with ZERO transfer funds. We have spent eff all. What is going on behind the scenes? Four loan signings? Only 2 of which were available for the most important game of the season? I can't fathom the thinking behind it at all. Have we tried to bring in the players? Is the Lawwell hyperbole actually true that we cannot attract decent players to Celtic and Scotland? I just can't see how that's the case unless we are shopping in the wrong markets. |
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| are you here for the game boys | 27 Aug 2014, 09:57 PM Post #1834 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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Well said. Could not agree more. I thought we would be light years ahead before Sevco ever reached the top flight. I looked forward to pumping them time after time while at the same time enjoying CL football. How stupid of me. As ever we have reverted to type. Use them as our yardstick, do just enough to keep ahead of them. That is not enough. This Board have been negligent in their duty to us, the fans. We want to be entertained, we want heroes, we want to be proud of a team that can at least give the leading teams a game, make them fear coming to Celtic Park. We have just been soundly beaten by Maribor. Maribor. At Celtic Park, where not less than two years ago we beat Barca. That's where we are at. Lack of investment in the team has cost us dearly. The board would do well to regard us as fans not customers. |
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| Belgrano | 27 Aug 2014, 10:01 PM Post #1835 |
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Here's a list of our top 10 highest transfers in our history. As you can see, it's a long, long time since we spent such money on players. In fact, it's more than 5 years now since we spent more than £3m on a player. No-one is even contemplating going back to an era of £5m or £6m signings. But, it's clear when you shop around the £1.5m-£2m mark - you're more than likely to get a 'miss' rather than a 'hit'. All the more difficult to accept when you're taking in £10m or £12.5m fees from player sales (something we never even came close to during the Martin O'Neill era). 1 John Hartson - Coventry City - £6,000,000 - 2 August 2001 2 Chris Sutton - Chelsea - £6,000,000 - 11 July 2000 3 Neil Lennon - Leicester City - £5,750,000 - 8 December 2000 4 Eyal Berkovic - West Ham - £5,750,000 - 8 July 1999 5 Rafael Scheidt - Grêmio - £4,800,000 - 1 January 2000 6 Scott Brown - Hibernian - £4,400,000 - 1 June 2007 7 Joos Valgaeren - Roda JC - £3,800,000 - 28 July 2000 8 Marc-Antoine Fortune - West Bromwich Albion - £3,800,000 - 9 July 2009 9 Alan Stubbs - Bolton Wanderers - £3,500,000 - 1 August 1996 10 Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink - PSV Eindhoven - £3,400,000 - 24 August 2006 The policy of "buy cheap, sell big" is worth pursuing. But when it becomes all-encompassing, and so rigid that it doesn't allow for any other type of signing, or retaining some of those successful signings, then it becomes out downfall. The board have completely exposed the flaws of the policy in recent seasons, and we now find ourself in a position where we have only one player left (Van Dijk) who can realistically get us a big transfer fee, and no top-level European platform on which to showcase or develop our other players. The baw is now, officially, burst. Time for change. |
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| McStay | 27 Aug 2014, 10:09 PM Post #1836 |
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Espanyolification
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It's about time Izzy got some serious stick. He's effing woeful defensively. He's not even got any competition for his place which no doubt adds to his complacency. |
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| paulfg42 | 27 Aug 2014, 11:28 PM Post #1837 |
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Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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We spent nearly 4 million on Fortune? FFS. How much did we get back? |
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| pauldg1 | 27 Aug 2014, 11:37 PM Post #1838 |
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A spray tanned Furby, eating KFC and screaming at a Gold Star family
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When the "buy cheap, sell big" policy was implemented, I really thought that phase 2 of the plan was to "buy less cheap, sell bigger". The rigidity of the wage structure and the amount of dross in the squad have killed the momentum of what could've been a very smart policy. As someone said earlier, van Dijk is the last golden egg before we've effed the goose to death. |
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| ChristyMoore | 28 Aug 2014, 12:15 AM Post #1839 |
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Considering retirement
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Charlie Nicholas on Sky tonight was bang on with what he said. |
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| murphio | 28 Aug 2014, 12:47 AM Post #1840 |
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Could start a row in an empty room
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Just noticing a piece in a gif of tomorrows daily mail back page which has mjallby laying into the board. |
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