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| Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,415,017 Views) | |
| celticelvis | 27 Jul 2014, 08:10 PM Post #161 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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When you say he has the best interests of Celtic at heart, is it possible to interpret 'best interests' as that of the board/financial structure of the club and would that conflict with the best interests of the footballing side of the club? I don't rightly know myself other than the fact we are heading down the footballing backwaters and you could argue that it would happen anyway but the policies of PL appear to be sending us down that path a lot faster and without a paddle. |
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| richiebhoy1888 | 27 Jul 2014, 08:20 PM Post #162 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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Much as I like Neil Lennon,can some of the blame as to how good/ bad we are not be laid at his door . Like one of the above posters said ,decent funds ( for the SPL ) were made available ,it is not Peter Lawells fault that the signings in the main were poor. |
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| celticelvis | 27 Jul 2014, 08:40 PM Post #163 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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If we all accept that this squad needs major surgery then it matters not a lot as to whose door the blame lies with. If Neil is at fault for purchasing the front four we have now he I'm sure would argue he did what he could with the funds that were allowed him. If it were NL's fault would the board not release the funds to right the mistakes of the past regime? I believe Richie it has gone beyond the blame stage, either we are football club prepared to challenge for our place as a midlevel European contender or we are a provincial feeder club with delusions of grandeur, I fear our board have chosen the latter. |
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| only1henke | 27 Jul 2014, 08:49 PM Post #164 |
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Getting on a bit
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Because it didn't feel as though you had. I've not read anyone advocating spending massively, just spending what we actually have, which we're not doing just now. |
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| brianlara67 | 27 Jul 2014, 08:58 PM Post #165 |
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Getting on a bit
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The general consensus is that our business model is to buy cheap (take a punt on prospects), develop them and sell high. This a cunning plan. There is just one problem at the moment. We aren't buying anyone, so unless these prospects are coming through the reserves/youths the production line has come stuttering to a halt. |
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| paulfg42 | 27 Jul 2014, 09:00 PM Post #166 |
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Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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There have been too many stories about Lawwell interfering in transfer dealings and players being added to the squad for commercial rather than footballing reasons. If the club want a Director of Football, let's get someone who is actually qualified for the job. |
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| Pat McGatt | 27 Jul 2014, 09:13 PM Post #167 |
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First-team captain
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I'm with CarlisleCelt, bemused as to where the money is going and your answer doesn't explain to me where £35 million from the last two season's CL campagins and a transfer profit of around £15 million during Lennon's tenure has gone. I'm not against the board at all, agree we are being killed by the Sky money etc, but we have been bringing in a ton of money from Europe and transfers over the last couple of years so it's not as though we've been completely paralysed by the SPL's cashflow. Are we not meant to budget on the assumption of no CL money anyway? Hoarding it for the terrifying return of the zombies is hardly a realistic scenario now either. |
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| FatherSpliffmas | 27 Jul 2014, 09:20 PM Post #168 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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Our bank debt has been wiped out. In 2011 it was £7m. As of the latest accounts we have net cash in the bank of £6m. |
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| Dr Huffarr | 27 Jul 2014, 09:23 PM Post #169 |
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Club Captain
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As a business, first class. However, the team and youth policy is 2nd, 3rd class. However, we are in a small insignificant league and it's all we can/should expect. |
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| katlegend | 27 Jul 2014, 10:00 PM Post #170 |
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Nobody believes we paid over £4m for Pukki & Balde. Lennon can't be blamed here as he clearly didn't rate either & rarely selected them. They weren't the managers choices that's for sure. That's the problem here. |
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| Dr Huffarr | 27 Jul 2014, 10:33 PM Post #171 |
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That 'Because' pish is nauseating. |
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| harry222 | 28 Jul 2014, 12:35 AM Post #172 |
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Roll up roll up buy your season ticket here at a massive £100 discount watch the same players year after year but any half decent player we do bring in will be sold if they are good enough to make us a profit i can see a revolt in the not to distant future and not before time enough is enough. |
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| KTP | 28 Jul 2014, 12:53 AM Post #173 |
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How about no?
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£6m can disappear very quickly with the outgoings we have, we might not make as much this season so i cant argue with the way we are ran. some signings have been pish but understand that we cant throw millions on a big name (who could also turn out to be pish for us). what should happen, and i guess it doesn't work this way with us, is the manger should be told he has £x to spend and its his call who he gets in rather than the board bringing in people against his wishes. Edited by KTP, 28 Jul 2014, 12:57 AM.
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| antrimkev | 28 Jul 2014, 02:53 AM Post #174 |
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do you ever get the feeling that we as football fans talk too much about the board??? any conversation i have in work about Celtic always end up with Utd or Liverpool fans talking about how tight our board is etc etc, they never talk about the debt etc they are in we must be the only supporters that every conversation turns to how the board is doing/debt management etc/cant spend too much or we will end up like them etc etc ffs theres even 9 pages on her about it (more than if we win a game) |
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| antrimkev | 28 Jul 2014, 02:55 AM Post #175 |
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| antrimkev | 28 Jul 2014, 02:56 AM Post #176 |
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| dr mueller | 28 Jul 2014, 03:33 AM Post #177 |
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pète facilement sa coche avec classe
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We talk about the board because the constant angst created by the "gap behind and before us" conundrum, which leads to stalemate, causes us to dissect every nook and cranny of the club, with the hope that the magic loophole will reveal itself in the scheme of things. This is obviously something which the respective supports of richer leagues don't have to resort to as much. To me, it's quite simple: the loophole's not there. Replace Lawell with anybody else, under identical structural auspices, and the outcome is the very same. The league's in the bag before a ball has been kicked. A critical minimum of punters will turn up for gameday tickets regardless of the product on the pitch, and season ticket figures have already long been tallied. The appointment of a new manager cunningly doubles as near-sufficient fodder for the annually-required "curiosity factor", lessening the impact of a lack of signings. The board have, in all likelihood correctly, surmised that the necessary expense outlay to make a corresponding, and "guaranteed" return through Champions league advancement, is too much of a risk, at least for this year( no domestic challenge in parallel ). Hey, it's been fun. But unless something absolutely dramatic occurs within the wider footballing structure( domestic and continental ), everything hinges on decent league opposition for the foreseeable future. And we all know what this means. Depressing, running-in-circles stuff? Hell yeah. But "the board" have very little to do with it. They'd be correctly taken to task by their shareholders if they weren't approaching it that way. Which doesn't mean of course that there aren't periodical issues with certain aspects regarding the broad administration of the club. But addressing those does little to tackle the much more intractable framework. |
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| beer_goggler1888 | 28 Jul 2014, 10:30 AM Post #178 |
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Harp Lager ICE cold
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That's before this years season ticket money and champions league prize money. We're on course to post club record profits. So money isn't the issue. Its the refusal to spend it that is. |
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| TK57 | 28 Jul 2014, 10:34 AM Post #179 |
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the thunder came back
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Don't be so feckin sensible! |
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| Tam Haas | 28 Jul 2014, 10:38 AM Post #180 |
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Getting on a bit
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To answer the original point, no. We're obviously happy to continue selling anyone we get decent money in for. It's alright if we have plans in place to replace them, but last season showed that we clearly don't. As history has shown, we never strengthen from a position of strength. If anything we're going out our way to make ourselves weaker on the park. I can see us coming a cropper against Liega & Lawwell will have to start finding some answers. |
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