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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,941 Views)
bhoyfromdacountyhell
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pauldg1
26 Aug 2014, 11:49 PM
I know the KDS accountants will be straight down my throat, but this chart of Celtic's transfer fees and European prize money troubles me.

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i actually thought our in would be much higher than that.
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MBhoy1888
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thenakattack
27 Aug 2014, 08:40 AM
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27 Aug 2014, 08:33 AM
idyllwild
27 Aug 2014, 08:29 AM

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In what sense was it so simplistic ? I'll admit that I targeted the strachan thing cause its abit of personal one for me but if you think our support hasnt been talking all kinds of shampoo about more attractive football which mirrors the 'celtic way' for a long time, then I reckon youv not spoken to alot of celtic fans in recent past.
You are so far off target about what is wrong with this club that it isnt even funny.

Having a pop at your fellow fans for wanting an improvement in entertainment at a time when our club is being run into the ground is utterly pathetic, self serving, attention seeking drivel.
It isnt at all, your idea of what the club can realistically afford is way off target, get with it and stop pretending 'the board' is sitting around twirling moustaches and looking for ways to eff the club, really ? does it not sound alot more plausible that we're not buying better players cause scottish domestic football is stagnating fast as eff rather than theres people who somehow think they can maximise their bonus by effing their own buisness. Effing nonsense and the point is relevant cause its still rapped up in this small minded stuff we need rid off, case in point 'delias a waste we need henrick in' ffs
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MBhoy1888
27 Aug 2014, 08:04 AM
To be fair for those who hate wee strachan, as was said with mowbray, you wanted it played "the celtic way" and you got it...
You had that post saved in drafts for a while?
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Stringer Bell
27 Aug 2014, 08:50 AM
MBhoy1888
27 Aug 2014, 08:04 AM
To be fair for those who hate wee strachan, as was said with mowbray, you wanted it played "the celtic way" and you got it...
You had that post saved in drafts for a while?
Only started posting on here about 3 months ago :thumbsup:

Been looking for the oppertunity to start an argument with it for awhile but :ph43r:
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Our money has been mismanaged long enough now, be it handed out in over inflated wages to someone running a very simplistic model, spent on players based on projected profit than ability or on a poorly delivering youth academy.

Time for it to stop.
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They've got a lot to answer for. When VVD goes we're back to square 1 with no real sellable assets, no UCL and a squad drastically lacking in quality.
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MBhoy1888
27 Aug 2014, 08:52 AM
Stringer Bell
27 Aug 2014, 08:50 AM
MBhoy1888
27 Aug 2014, 08:04 AM
To be fair for those who hate wee strachan, as was said with mowbray, you wanted it played "the celtic way" and you got it...
You had that post saved in drafts for a while?
Only started posting on here about 3 months ago :thumbsup:

Been looking for the oppertunity to start an argument with it for awhile but :ph43r:
May I introduce you to your own petard? Useful for hoisting purposes.
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MBhoy1888
27 Aug 2014, 08:26 AM
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27 Aug 2014, 08:15 AM
MBhoy1888
27 Aug 2014, 08:12 AM

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I wasn't a fan of Strachan's teams as I found them dull and what few creative players we had were stifled out wide, where they struggled to influence big games. That was five years ago. Not sure what relevance it has to the current situation.
My point is that during that time when we enjoyed unprecedented success in the CL in comparison with what came before or after people were fairly vocal of their critisicm of our manager and when we failed to secure a league title they dumped on him severly and saw him out the job, the biggest criticism was unnattractive football, but I do not remember feeling shampoo after beating man u, milan, shaktar donetsk or that game against old co where we stole the league back, if you wanted 'attractive' football then your getting it and theres going to be a few casualties in terms of results, along the way.
How did we have "unprecedented" CL success under Strachan compared to what happened before and after? Lennon got 10 points in the CL two seasons ago and MON got 9 points in 2001/02. Strachan had some fine European results but he also presided over our worst ever CL campaign, including a defeat to a Danish team who were as poor a side as we've ever faced in the group stages.
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MBhoy1888
27 Aug 2014, 08:48 AM
thenakattack
27 Aug 2014, 08:40 AM
MBhoy1888
27 Aug 2014, 08:33 AM

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You are so far off target about what is wrong with this club that it isnt even funny.

Having a pop at your fellow fans for wanting an improvement in entertainment at a time when our club is being run into the ground is utterly pathetic, self serving, attention seeking drivel.
It isnt at all, your idea of what the club can realistically afford is way off target, get with it and stop pretending 'the board' is sitting around twirling moustaches and looking for ways to eff the club, really ? does it not sound alot more plausible that we're not buying better players cause scottish domestic football is stagnating fast as eff rather than theres people who somehow think they can maximise their bonus by effing their own buisness. Effing nonsense and the point is relevant cause its still rapped up in this small minded stuff we need rid off, case in point 'delias a waste we need henrick in' ffs
Not everyone thinks folk are intentionally effing the club, they are just very very poor at their job.
Its been 3 years now of taking punts on people that the head scout and ceo want to sign, doing the minimum to win the league, taking massive risks to qualify for the CL and having no structure bottom up.

How you think your initial comment about attractive football ties into that i dont know.
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green_equals_silver
27 Aug 2014, 08:56 AM
They've got a lot to answer for. When VVD goes we're back to square 1 with no real sellable assets, no UCL and a squad drastically lacking in quality.
I also believe that Brown and Lustig would be gone if it weren't for the probability of failing a medical.
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The board have now successfully dragged us down to a level to where they think it is acceptable


for Ambrose and Izzaguire to be considered good defenders


have Charlie fecking Mulgrew as a holding midfield player


and most shockingly have a strikeforce of Stokes, Griffiths, Pukki and Balde


They are just ripping the pish of the fans now and it actually looks like the fans have had enough and Lawwell and co are about to find this out :arrr:
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27 Aug 2014, 08:59 AM
MBhoy1888
27 Aug 2014, 08:26 AM
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27 Aug 2014, 08:15 AM

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My point is that during that time when we enjoyed unprecedented success in the CL in comparison with what came before or after people were fairly vocal of their critisicm of our manager and when we failed to secure a league title they dumped on him severly and saw him out the job, the biggest criticism was unnattractive football, but I do not remember feeling shampoo after beating man u, milan, shaktar donetsk or that game against old co where we stole the league back, if you wanted 'attractive' football then your getting it and theres going to be a few casualties in terms of results, along the way.
How did we have "unprecedented" CL success under Strachan compared to what happened before and after? Lennon got 10 points in the CL two seasons ago and MON got 9 points in 2001/02. Strachan had some fine European results but he also presided over our worst ever CL campaign, including a defeat to a Danish team who were as poor a side as we've ever faced in the group stages.
We never qualified for the last 16 until Strachan took us there. That in anyones book is unprecedented :thumbsup:
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I hope the banners are ready to go back in the LL Upper. Got a feeling that it'll be a long, long time before they need to come back off.
Life in the slow lane? Nah, we're in a car park - in reverse.
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27 Aug 2014, 09:01 AM
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MBhoy1888
27 Aug 2014, 08:26 AM

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How did we have "unprecedented" CL success under Strachan compared to what happened before and after? Lennon got 10 points in the CL two seasons ago and MON got 9 points in 2001/02. Strachan had some fine European results but he also presided over our worst ever CL campaign, including a defeat to a Danish team who were as poor a side as we've ever faced in the group stages.
We never qualified for the last 16 until Strachan took us there. That in anyones book is unprecedented :thumbsup:
Yes, because the tournament only began when they changed the name.
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Pendy12
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Lawwell it's been coming. Might not a bad thing what happened last night. At least we don't get to hear him saying it worked were in the champions league.
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27 Aug 2014, 09:01 AM
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MBhoy1888
27 Aug 2014, 08:26 AM

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How did we have "unprecedented" CL success under Strachan compared to what happened before and after? Lennon got 10 points in the CL two seasons ago and MON got 9 points in 2001/02. Strachan had some fine European results but he also presided over our worst ever CL campaign, including a defeat to a Danish team who were as poor a side as we've ever faced in the group stages.
We never qualified for the last 16 until Strachan took us there. That in anyones book is unprecedented :thumbsup:
The original poster said "before or after" Strachan. And while he may have been the first manager to lead us into the last 16 of the CL, it was hardly an earth-shattering improvement considering we'd achieved a similar points tally under MON (in a tougher group) and defeated everyone from Barcelona and Liverpool to Juventus and Lyon in European football in the years immediately prior to Strachan's reign.
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MBhoy1888
27 Aug 2014, 08:48 AM
thenakattack
27 Aug 2014, 08:40 AM
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27 Aug 2014, 08:33 AM

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You are so far off target about what is wrong with this club that it isnt even funny.

Having a pop at your fellow fans for wanting an improvement in entertainment at a time when our club is being run into the ground is utterly pathetic, self serving, attention seeking drivel.
It isnt at all, your idea of what the club can realistically afford is way off target, get with it and stop pretending 'the board' is sitting around twirling moustaches and looking for ways to eff the club, really ? does it not sound alot more plausible that we're not buying better players cause scottish domestic football is stagnating fast as eff rather than theres people who somehow think they can maximise their bonus by effing their own buisness. Effing nonsense and the point is relevant cause its still rapped up in this small minded stuff we need rid off, case in point 'delias a waste we need henrick in' ffs
look at the front lines of legia and maribor, not a project in sight.
the money we have spent should have spent much more wisely. we've pissed it against a wall made up of duds.
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I keep thinking there has to be some logic behind the board not spending any money the past few seasons.

First thought is always the huns demise but surely it would be wiser to spend and invest in decent players. Some of the dross we have been subjected to the past few seasons, so much for the master in John Park.

The more I think on it, the more it just seems like they shut up shop to save on wages as winning the SPL and hoping to sneak into the group stage year on year with the squad is cheaper.

Last year we dicked around until 3 days before the window shut, Van Dijk the only decent signing at the start of the summer but even after that we needed a new centre half to replace Wilson.

This season you would have thought they would have learned their lesson and gone out and bought decent prospects early. We get a few loans and a free, we get a second chance at the CL and the board bring in another few loans, ones injured and can’t play.

Honestly sickening to think we had a decent side a year and a half ago and it has been totally dismantled, our manager left due to lack of investment and we have replaced him with RD's inexperience because he told the board he brings through youth, develops them and plays attacking football.
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Also Pauls blog on cqn, does this guy ever criticise PL? He is so far up his Erchie it is unreal.
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27 Aug 2014, 09:01 AM
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27 Aug 2014, 08:59 AM
MBhoy1888
27 Aug 2014, 08:26 AM

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How did we have "unprecedented" CL success under Strachan compared to what happened before and after? Lennon got 10 points in the CL two seasons ago and MON got 9 points in 2001/02. Strachan had some fine European results but he also presided over our worst ever CL campaign, including a defeat to a Danish team who were as poor a side as we've ever faced in the group stages.
We never qualified for the last 16 until Strachan took us there. That in anyones book is unprecedented :thumbsup:
You know I meant in recent times :thumbsup:
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