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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
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Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,963 Views)
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Bmoretim
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8 Aug 2014, 05:42 PM
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- greenjedi
- 8 Aug 2014, 05:26 PM
- Bmoretim
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- aldo
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There is now a massive disconnect between us and The Board. It's been fermenting since WGS's time, when we went on at length here on KDS about how he wasn't getting the support to bring the kind of players he wanted and how apparent it was that signings were being made over his head (Riordan, Gravesen).
We were concerned that WGS's appointment in the first place was evidence of downsizing: with MON's 'life in the slow lane' comment still ringing in our ears, we replaced him with an out of work manager whose modest experience was with small clubs who would set out not to lose games, and we feared - with some justification, as it would turn out - he would be a Yes man. They then gave Tony Mowbray the job despite his not having a CV to warrant it, but who was also a compliant Yes man. Lenny's appointment was more evidence of downsizing of ambition, whether we like to admit it or not. Lawwell knew this fine well, so much so they embarked on their roadshow, to persuade scunnered fans to renew season tickets by playing the emotional card. And Neil, too, for all his pride and fire, put too much faith his good relationships with Lawwell and Desmond, trusting them to do the right thing. For all the mistakes he made, they let him down. Allan Thomson, then Big Mjalby then Neil were forced out the door, and replaced with the young guy from a little club in a little league who only months before was approached to be his assistant; and pairing him with Lawwell's choice of assistant, the out of work John Collins. We have ample evidence of downsizing, alright, and I haven't mentioned them interviewing the out of work Mark McGhee before choosing Mowbray!
Dole birds without clubs to compensate or large salaries to better; compliant Yes Men who wouldn't take a stand against players being bought and sold against their will, and diminishing budgets; ex players who might put up with interference due to their emotional attachment to the club: we've had them all. Much glory and happy days was achieved, but not without pain. For all the great success he steered his teams to, WGS's tenure remains a bone of contention due to what became known on KDS as The Malaise, when the football was so poor and the mood so dark that season ticket holders couldn't summon up the enthusiasm to take the seats they had paid for. Much of Neil's reign was also grim stuff. These are the obvious gripes , but there is much more which adds to the disconnect.
I really don't know if the online tales are true, of Lawwell's eagerness to sell players due to being incentivised to increase turnover, or of his/John Park controlling the buying and selling players, but I do know the club has abandoned ambition and chosen to stay in 2nd gear since the huns death; exploiting the feel good factor, not to grow and celebrate all that is good about Celtic, but to take liberties with our dedication. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know The Board (I'm using this a catch-all term for those who run The Club) have not only failed to defend Celtic supporters against the wildy unjust Offensive Behaviour at Football Act and the actions of Focus, they have actively collaborated with them in the persecution of Celtic fans. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know they meekly rolled over and merely stated they were "disappointed" with the outcome of the LNS farce. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know they shamefully spiked the GB's food bank collection last year. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know they shamefully dismissed the Living Wage motion at the last AGM. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know they shamefully shower us with pathetically transparent platitudes that seek to tug on our heartstrings, emotional blackmail citing our wonderful heritage and historical bond with the club, in the absence of substantial commitment by them. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know £1m is an extraordinarily high salary for a CEO of a medium sized enterprise with a turnover that will seldom, if ever, exceed £75-£80m. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know I and many more supporters are sickened at the apparent willingness to ignore a catalogue of anti social and unprofessional transgressions by some players, while hounding out model pro's like Ledley and Samaras. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know that many, many supporters are embarrassed at the Board's apparent willingness to whore the team out to any shi tty little friendly that will generate...well, how much, exactly? Was that Spurs drubbing in Finland really worth it, during CL qualifiers? Or the subsequent, justified criticism by the organisers of the club for the team of kids. That adds to the disconnect.
There is so much more wrong than just an early, embarrassing CL exit. I've never felt more alienated, more disconnected from those who run - and many who play for - our club. And the final insult may yet arise: we have grave reservations about the club's apparent inactivity in pursuing justice over the huns' & SFA's decades of cheating. Lawwell temporarily placated those guys at the last AGM with a promise that he was indeed on the case of the SFA granting the huns a euro licence whilst owing taxes, and that passing the motion would set a course of action in place that would jeopardise his investigations. I don't know what timescale he is working to, but that's nearly a year. Surely the time is nearing for him to reveal either what action he is going to take, or to give the guys the nod to raise the motion again this year. There are some pretty serious folk behind that motion: if he's trying to pull the wool over their eyes and attempting a fudge, they'll suss him out. And that must, surely, be the last straw?
 Sums things up perfectly. I'll be very surprised if the Board changes the way they do business anytime soon.
If that is the case Maribor will beat us and beat us bad That wouldn't surprise me either, but I think getting past Maribor will depend on how Ronny uses the limited assets he has now. He needs to wise up big time. Keep it tight the first leg and hit them on the break when/if the opportunity presents. If he goes balls to the wall trying to get an away goal, we're effed.
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8 Aug 2014, 05:42 PM
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- Belgrano
- 8 Aug 2014, 05:35 PM
I'd still expect us to get beaten off of Maribor (the performance against Legia suggests we're well short of the quality needed to qualify) but what this does is guarantee us Europa League group stage football, whereas if the Legia score had stood, there's also the strong possibility we'd have lost the Europa League qualifier and not progressed in Europe at all.
It's the most massive get-out-of-jail card the board could have got. You'd hope they'd grasp it with both hands, and revise their current policy realising that it simply isn't working. But I fear the eventual outcome of us getting through to the next round (regardless of the means) will act as some sort of bizarre justification that their current policy is working just fine. Even that lot couldn't spin this as the master plan working
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8 Aug 2014, 05:50 PM
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They really must now know that this hit and hope policy of signing unknowns to sell on as a profit isn't working. They have been given the ultimate lifeline, they must realise they can't mess this one up.
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8 Aug 2014, 06:35 PM
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And that's the way we like it...
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Are they likely to suddenly see the light, and use this get out of jail free card to properly strengthen the team? Nah, no chance. I think it will take a period of collective, coordinated protest to enforce a change of approach from our Board, which will take us beyond this transfer window, maybe even the next. They will only spend - and enact other changes to their running of the club - if they are forced into it. They are holding out on spending until the huns to get promoted, and even then it will most likely be the expected increased season ticket revenue I reckon they'll use.
No Scottish competitor will be challenging us financially for maybe a decade, maybe never. With the current regime and their way of thinking, I think they would squander that superiority and continue aim at staying just one step ahead of the pack, regardless of how risky that is and how soul destroying that will be for us to watch. To live up to Celtic's reputation and standing, and to satisfy us supporters, it's reasonable we aim for CL Group Stage qualification, and that means more and wiser spending.
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8 Aug 2014, 07:52 PM
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We all know that the bored are answerable to shareholders.this usually done by AGM.Is there enough power through shareholdings by supporters to call for an EGM?.This lot have serious questions to answer. If they(the team) manage to make a total balls up of this lifeline. then a resolution calling for PL's head should be made.I know it will never succeed but, he'll get the message to his face. if by some miracle that an EGM took place and by some miracle Aldo is a shareholder. he should take that amazing piece he wrote and read it word for word to everyone of those bored members.
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Henry Trumpington
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8 Aug 2014, 08:32 PM
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Apologies if covered previously, but I thought it would be worthwhile reflecting on what the financial implications of today’s decision are for the club. The following figures are based largely on 2013-2014 figures. They assume that we will qualify for the EL group stages, where we win 2, draw 2 and lose 2, but don't progress to the round of 32. CL income from QR2 & 3 have been omitted, as they are small, and largely there to cover the expenses of each participating club. I have included rough figures for ticket revenue, along with a best guess “miscellaneous” calculation for corporate, matchday revenue, associated sales etc.
CL playoff round - £1.7m EL group stage participation – £1.04m Performance bonus £0.48m (€200,00 win/€100,000 draw) Market pool - £2m (difficult to judge. Ranged from £0 (Moldova) to £5.4m (Italy). Would include rights for Maribor match at home Ticket revenue - £4m (4 home matches, 40,000 attendance at each paying £25 a head) Miscellaneous - £1.6m (£400, 000 per home match)
These figures can be viewed if you like as a guaranteed minimum income. They total £10.82 million. Fairly reasonable return for a clerical error I would have thought.
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Mubo Loravcik
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8 Aug 2014, 09:14 PM
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£10million bid for Forster accepted.
Now spend some of that cash, or else we're in danger of being eliminated by a Slovenian club.
Pretty please, Peter
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8 Aug 2014, 09:18 PM
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Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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- Henry Trumpington
- 8 Aug 2014, 08:32 PM
Apologies if covered previously, but I thought it would be worthwhile reflecting on what the financial implications of today’s decision are for the club. The following figures are based largely on 2013-2014 figures. They assume that we will qualify for the EL group stages, where we win 2, draw 2 and lose 2, but don't progress to the round of 32. CL income from QR2 & 3 have been omitted, as they are small, and largely there to cover the expenses of each participating club. I have included rough figures for ticket revenue, along with a best guess “miscellaneous” calculation for corporate, matchday revenue, associated sales etc.
CL playoff round - £1.7m EL group stage participation – £1.04m Performance bonus £0.48m (€200,00 win/€100,000 draw) Market pool - £2m (difficult to judge. Ranged from £0 (Moldova) to £5.4m (Italy). Would include rights for Maribor match at home Ticket revenue - £4m (4 home matches, 40,000 attendance at each paying £25 a head) Miscellaneous - £1.6m (£400, 000 per home match)
These figures can be viewed if you like as a guaranteed minimum income. They total £10.82 million. Fairly reasonable return for a clerical error I would have thought.
You haven't allowed for the £4 million we need to give LW for their moral victory.
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8 Aug 2014, 10:26 PM
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- Wee Red
- 8 Aug 2014, 02:05 PM
This is pretty crucial, we have a wee second bite at the cherry, and should try to take advantage and make a fresh start. Hmmn,
The only second bite of the cherry this board will deliver is a second bite at the cherry of embarrassment. Same inadequate manager, same inadequate squad, same dressing room unrest. Sorry guys but most likely outcome is same embarrassing humping.
This time if we drop out then the board will see a ''safety net'' of the group stages of the Europa League. They already have a measure of European competition guaranteed up towards Christmas so why would thy spend.
Pessimist or realist, time will tell.
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8 Aug 2014, 10:38 PM
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- idyllwild
- 8 Aug 2014, 09:06 AM
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Close the thread, aldo wins 
It's a thing of beauty. Can't beat a serious aldo post on this sort of stuff. Aldo vlad and Ned Rise = Three posters always worth reading what they have to say imo.
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8 Aug 2014, 10:42 PM
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- 8 Aug 2014, 07:52 PM
We all know that the bored are answerable to shareholders.this usually done by AGM.Is there enough power through shareholdings by supporters to call for an EGM?.This lot have serious questions to answer. If they(the team) manage to make a total balls up of this lifeline. then a resolution calling for PL's head should be made.I know it will never succeed but, he'll get the message to his face. if by some miracle that an EGM took place and by some miracle Aldo is a shareholder. he should take that amazing piece he wrote and read it word for word to everyone of those bored members. I'm not sure if you meant to call them the bored as opposed to the board, but even if you didn't you have it bang on. Complacent, comfortable and bored.
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8 Aug 2014, 10:43 PM
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Close the thread, aldo wins 
It's a thing of beauty. Can't beat a serious aldo post on this sort of stuff.
Aldo  vlad and Ned Rise = Three posters always worth reading what they have to say imo. I don't know about that CB. I'm more a distant observer. The other guys actually put in the effort of supporting the team.
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8 Aug 2014, 10:50 PM
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Catch some light and it'll be alright
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Aldo hits the nail on the head. Everything that is wrong with the club in one post. At a time we should be moving forward our board always know how to feck things up.
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8 Aug 2014, 11:12 PM
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- 7 Aug 2014, 10:35 PM
Spoiler: click to toggle There is now a massive disconnect between us and The Board. It's been fermenting since WGS's time, when we went on at length here on KDS about how he wasn't getting the support to bring the kind of players he wanted and how apparent it was that signings were being made over his head (Riordan, Gravesen).
We were concerned that WGS's appointment in the first place was evidence of downsizing: with MON's 'life in the slow lane' comment still ringing in our ears, we replaced him with an out of work manager whose modest experience was with small clubs who would set out not to lose games, and we feared - with some justification, as it would turn out - he would be a Yes man. They then gave Tony Mowbray the job despite his not having a CV to warrant it, but who was also a compliant Yes man. Lenny's appointment was more evidence of downsizing of ambition, whether we like to admit it or not. Lawwell knew this fine well, so much so they embarked on their roadshow, to persuade scunnered fans to renew season tickets by playing the emotional card. And Neil, too, for all his pride and fire, put too much faith his good relationships with Lawwell and Desmond, trusting them to do the right thing. For all the mistakes he made, they let him down. Allan Thomson, then Big Mjalby then Neil were forced out the door, and replaced with the young guy from a little club in a little league who only months before was approached to be his assistant; and pairing him with Lawwell's choice of assistant, the out of work John Collins. We have ample evidence of downsizing, alright, and I haven't mentioned them interviewing the out of work Mark McGhee before choosing Mowbray!
Dole birds without clubs to compensate or large salaries to better; compliant Yes Men who wouldn't take a stand against players being bought and sold against their will, and diminishing budgets; ex players who might put up with interference due to their emotional attachment to the club: we've had them all. Much glory and happy days was achieved, but not without pain. For all the great success he steered his teams to, WGS's tenure remains a bone of contention due to what became known on KDS as The Malaise, when the football was so poor and the mood so dark that season ticket holders couldn't summon up the enthusiasm to take the seats they had paid for. Much of Neil's reign was also grim stuff. These are the obvious gripes , but there is much more which adds to the disconnect.
I really don't know if the online tales are true, of Lawwell's eagerness to sell players due to being incentivised to increase turnover, or of his/John Park controlling the buying and selling players, but I do know the club has abandoned ambition and chosen to stay in 2nd gear since the huns death; exploiting the feel good factor, not to grow and celebrate all that is good about Celtic, but to take liberties with our dedication. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know The Board (I'm using this a catch-all term for those who run The Club) have not only failed to defend Celtic supporters against the wildy unjust Offensive Behaviour at Football Act and the actions of Focus, they have actively collaborated with them in the persecution of Celtic fans. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know they meekly rolled over and merely stated they were "disappointed" with the outcome of the LNS farce. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know they shamefully spiked the GB's food bank collection last year. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know they shamefully dismissed the Living Wage motion at the last AGM. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know they shamefully shower us with pathetically transparent platitudes that seek to tug on our heartstrings, emotional blackmail citing our wonderful heritage and historical bond with the club, in the absence of substantial commitment by them. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know £1m is an extraordinarily high salary for a CEO of a medium sized enterprise with a turnover that will seldom, if ever, exceed £75-£80m. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know I and many more supporters are sickened at the apparent willingness to ignore a catalogue of anti social and unprofessional transgressions by some players, while hounding out model pro's like Ledley and Samaras. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know that many, many supporters are embarrassed at the Board's apparent willingness to whore the team out to any shi tty little friendly that will generate...well, how much, exactly? Was that Spurs drubbing in Finland really worth it, during CL qualifiers? Or the subsequent, justified criticism by the organisers of the club for the team of kids. That adds to the disconnect.
There is so much more wrong than just an early, embarrassing CL exit. I've never felt more alienated, more disconnected from those who run - and many who play for - our club. And the final insult may yet arise: we have grave reservations about the club's apparent inactivity in pursuing justice over the huns' & SFA's decades of cheating. Lawwell temporarily placated those guys at the last AGM with a promise that he was indeed on the case of the SFA granting the huns a euro licence whilst owing taxes, and that passing the motion would set a course of action in place that would jeopardise his investigations. I don't know what timescale he is working to, but that's nearly a year. Surely the time is nearing for him to reveal either what action he is going to take, or to give the guys the nod to raise the motion again this year. There are some pretty serious folk behind that motion: if he's trying to pull the wool over their eyes and attempting a fudge, they'll suss him out. And that must, surely, be the last straw?
Brilliantly summed up my feelings Aldo, thanks
Edited by bongo, 8 Aug 2014, 11:13 PM.
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9 Aug 2014, 12:50 AM
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What was better?
Aldo's post or the staff induction programme in the Legia admin department.
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9 Aug 2014, 01:06 AM
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I'd just hope that the board remember that they gave Lennon the money from the McGeady sale to build his team when we had no CL money. Now we have the chance to invest the Forster money and possibly gain CL money from doing so. If not, they will more or less cover their expenditure from the CL play-off and the Europa League.
Get it done. Now.
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9 Aug 2014, 01:10 AM
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We got a totally unexpected bonus yesterday.
Everyone at the club from the board down to the coach and players, better see to it they don't eff it up this time.
They got a taste of fan discontent the other night and have a chance to make it right.
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9 Aug 2014, 03:14 AM
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- aldo
- 7 Aug 2014, 10:35 PM
Spoiler: click to toggle There is now a massive disconnect between us and The Board. It's been fermenting since WGS's time, when we went on at length here on KDS about how he wasn't getting the support to bring the kind of players he wanted and how apparent it was that signings were being made over his head (Riordan, Gravesen).
We were concerned that WGS's appointment in the first place was evidence of downsizing: with MON's 'life in the slow lane' comment still ringing in our ears, we replaced him with an out of work manager whose modest experience was with small clubs who would set out not to lose games, and we feared - with some justification, as it would turn out - he would be a Yes man. They then gave Tony Mowbray the job despite his not having a CV to warrant it, but who was also a compliant Yes man. Lenny's appointment was more evidence of downsizing of ambition, whether we like to admit it or not. Lawwell knew this fine well, so much so they embarked on their roadshow, to persuade scunnered fans to renew season tickets by playing the emotional card. And Neil, too, for all his pride and fire, put too much faith his good relationships with Lawwell and Desmond, trusting them to do the right thing. For all the mistakes he made, they let him down. Allan Thomson, then Big Mjalby then Neil were forced out the door, and replaced with the young guy from a little club in a little league who only months before was approached to be his assistant; and pairing him with Lawwell's choice of assistant, the out of work John Collins. We have ample evidence of downsizing, alright, and I haven't mentioned them interviewing the out of work Mark McGhee before choosing Mowbray!
Dole birds without clubs to compensate or large salaries to better; compliant Yes Men who wouldn't take a stand against players being bought and sold against their will, and diminishing budgets; ex players who might put up with interference due to their emotional attachment to the club: we've had them all. Much glory and happy days was achieved, but not without pain. For all the great success he steered his teams to, WGS's tenure remains a bone of contention due to what became known on KDS as The Malaise, when the football was so poor and the mood so dark that season ticket holders couldn't summon up the enthusiasm to take the seats they had paid for. Much of Neil's reign was also grim stuff. These are the obvious gripes , but there is much more which adds to the disconnect.
I really don't know if the online tales are true, of Lawwell's eagerness to sell players due to being incentivised to increase turnover, or of his/John Park controlling the buying and selling players, but I do know the club has abandoned ambition and chosen to stay in 2nd gear since the huns death; exploiting the feel good factor, not to grow and celebrate all that is good about Celtic, but to take liberties with our dedication. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know The Board (I'm using this a catch-all term for those who run The Club) have not only failed to defend Celtic supporters against the wildy unjust Offensive Behaviour at Football Act and the actions of Focus, they have actively collaborated with them in the persecution of Celtic fans. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know they meekly rolled over and merely stated they were "disappointed" with the outcome of the LNS farce. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know they shamefully spiked the GB's food bank collection last year. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know they shamefully dismissed the Living Wage motion at the last AGM. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know they shamefully shower us with pathetically transparent platitudes that seek to tug on our heartstrings, emotional blackmail citing our wonderful heritage and historical bond with the club, in the absence of substantial commitment by them. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know £1m is an extraordinarily high salary for a CEO of a medium sized enterprise with a turnover that will seldom, if ever, exceed £75-£80m. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know I and many more supporters are sickened at the apparent willingness to ignore a catalogue of anti social and unprofessional transgressions by some players, while hounding out model pro's like Ledley and Samaras. That adds to the disconnect.
I do know that many, many supporters are embarrassed at the Board's apparent willingness to whore the team out to any shi tty little friendly that will generate...well, how much, exactly? Was that Spurs drubbing in Finland really worth it, during CL qualifiers? Or the subsequent, justified criticism by the organisers of the club for the team of kids. That adds to the disconnect.
There is so much more wrong than just an early, embarrassing CL exit. I've never felt more alienated, more disconnected from those who run - and many who play for - our club. And the final insult may yet arise: we have grave reservations about the club's apparent inactivity in pursuing justice over the huns' & SFA's decades of cheating. Lawwell temporarily placated those guys at the last AGM with a promise that he was indeed on the case of the SFA granting the huns a euro licence whilst owing taxes, and that passing the motion would set a course of action in place that would jeopardise his investigations. I don't know what timescale he is working to, but that's nearly a year. Surely the time is nearing for him to reveal either what action he is going to take, or to give the guys the nod to raise the motion again this year. There are some pretty serious folk behind that motion: if he's trying to pull the wool over their eyes and attempting a fudge, they'll suss him out. And that must, surely, be the last straw?
Brilliantly summed up my feelings Aldo, thanks x 2... an excellent post, and i'd imagine many supporters feel the same about the growing disconnect... great to see it so well articulated...
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9 Aug 2014, 08:50 AM
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Aldo  vlad and Ned Rise = Three posters always worth reading what they have to say imo.
I don't know about that CB. I'm more a distant observer. The other guys actually put in the effort of supporting the team. Just my take NR.
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9 Aug 2014, 09:20 AM
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Superb post by Aldo. Thanks for so clearly expressing what so many of us feel.
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