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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,445 Views)
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The record online saying SPFL will scrap their calls for a review at a board meeting today.
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remy mcswain
21 Sep 2017, 07:02 AM
Pendy12
21 Sep 2017, 03:16 AM
jim62
20 Sep 2017, 11:59 PM
What has caused the operating expenses to rise to £76mill...up 33%....I know that the manager and presumably Sinclair/Dembele must be on big bucks....but that figure is about £20mill higher than tbe previous year ??

How much is PL's bonus this year :ph43r:
I think it may be the 18 million cost of the hotel
That is not correct.

Wages/bonuses will be massive for CL qualification, we have spent a lot of money on BR and his back room team and we had far too big a squad of non playing high earners last season.
There was debate on twitter between Paul Larkin and someone who said Celtic had 'scaled up'. Larkin was patronising, said that he knew that Celtic's wage bill remained static.

This rise seems to blow his pish out the water.
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21 Sep 2017, 11:43 AM
remy mcswain
21 Sep 2017, 07:02 AM
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21 Sep 2017, 03:16 AM

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That is not correct.

Wages/bonuses will be massive for CL qualification, we have spent a lot of money on BR and his back room team and we had far too big a squad of non playing high earners last season.
There was debate on twitter between Paul Larkin and someone who said Celtic had 'scaled up'. Larkin was patronising, said that he knew that Celtic's wage bill remained static.

This rise seems to blow his pish out the water.
Wages have always risen with Champions League qualification because our model is weighted towards bonuses.
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murphio
21 Sep 2017, 11:50 AM
oneillsrevolution
21 Sep 2017, 11:43 AM
remy mcswain
21 Sep 2017, 07:02 AM

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There was debate on twitter between Paul Larkin and someone who said Celtic had 'scaled up'. Larkin was patronising, said that he knew that Celtic's wage bill remained static.

This rise seems to blow his pish out the water.
Wages have always risen with Champions League qualification because our model is weighted towards bonuses.
And Brendan's wage is much, much higher than Deilas. And we paid higher for Toure and Sinclair.

By any parameter, wages haven't remained static.
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It won't account for all of the rise in expenditure by any means, but the amount of bonus money paid in the last year alone would have been mega.

Champions League qualification achieved will have led to a hefty initial bonus. Then also winning all three domestic trophies with the loss of absolutely no games and at the expense of only four draws.

Presumably our players are not on hefty bonuses for, say, beating Ross County, but winning the Treble? The outlay would have been considerable. And pretty much every penny earned by those who did so.

With Brendan's contract, and then his improved one, (never mind his backroom team), we've added probably £2m+ alone in salary over what Deila was likely paid. And worth every penny.

We upscaled more than just the manager's wages too. Transfer fees, Sinclair and Toure on considerable salaries, and we renewed a few players throughout the year on better terms.

When you add all that to the fact we were carrying a considerable surplus of players, you can begin to see where the rise has come from.

Edited by Forza, 21 Sep 2017, 12:02 PM.
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oneillsrevolution
21 Sep 2017, 11:59 AM
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oneillsrevolution
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Wages have always risen with Champions League qualification because our model is weighted towards bonuses.
And Brendan's wage is much, much higher than Deilas. And we paid higher for Toure and Sinclair.

By any parameter, wages haven't remained static.
I guess there might have been a pay-off for Ronnie Deila and his cohorts too.
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fatboab
21 Sep 2017, 12:00 PM
oneillsrevolution
21 Sep 2017, 11:59 AM
murphio
21 Sep 2017, 11:50 AM

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And Brendan's wage is much, much higher than Deilas. And we paid higher for Toure and Sinclair.

By any parameter, wages haven't remained static.
I guess there might have been a pay-off for Ronnie Deila and his cohorts too.
There's also the additions of a Ex Real and PSG Sports Scientist replacing our local guy and a ex Liverpool and Chelsea performance coach replacing Ronny's pal. They both won't come cheap.
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21 Sep 2017, 11:59 AM
murphio
21 Sep 2017, 11:50 AM

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And Brendan's wage is much, much higher than Deilas. And we paid higher for Toure and Sinclair.

By any parameter, wages haven't remained static.
I guess there might have been a pay-off for Ronnie Deila and his cohorts too.
I think most of us agree Celtic 'scaled up'.
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21 Sep 2017, 11:59 AM

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I guess there might have been a pay-off for Ronnie Deila and his cohorts too.
I think most of us agree Celtic 'scaled up'.
Absolutely.

And it has been well worth it.

I hope Larkin puts his "facts" across at the next PC he gets invited to so lawwell can laugh him out the door.
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Great results driven from great performance on the park and quality management team

who'd have thought that was the model :rubeyes:
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remy mcswain
21 Sep 2017, 12:11 PM
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21 Sep 2017, 12:08 PM
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21 Sep 2017, 12:00 PM

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I think most of us agree Celtic 'scaled up'.
Absolutely.

And it has been well worth it.

I hope Larkin puts his "facts" across at the next PC he gets invited to so lawwell can laugh him out the door.
I'd pay to watch.
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Bhoyball
21 Sep 2017, 09:39 AM
How did we end up with cash in bank of 18m ? With 6.9m profit this year and only 0.6m last. Did we historically have 11m cash in bank?
The profit figure is arrived at after deducting non cash expenses such as depreciation and amortisation of fixed assets.

Interesting line about £1m on onerous contracts i.e. expense of the contract being well beyond the value.

I would guess we are talking about Cifti and Allan.

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21 Sep 2017, 12:30 PM
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21 Sep 2017, 09:39 AM
How did we end up with cash in bank of 18m ? With 6.9m profit this year and only 0.6m last. Did we historically have 11m cash in bank?
The profit figure is arrived at after deducting non cash expenses such as depreciation and amortisation of fixed assets.

Interesting line about £1m on onerous contracts i.e. expense of the contract being well beyond the value.

I would guess we are talking about Cifti and Allan.

Pay off for Deila and his staff?
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Bobby Peru
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Bhoyball
21 Sep 2017, 09:39 AM
How did we end up with cash in bank of 18m ? With 6.9m profit this year and only 0.6m last. Did we historically have 11m cash in bank?
The profit figure is arrived at after deducting non cash expenses such as depreciation and amortisation of fixed assets.

Interesting line about £1m on onerous contracts i.e. expense of the contract being well beyond the value.

I would guess we are talking about Cifti and Allan.

Pay off for Deila and his staff?
Good point, that probably makes more sense.

Not sure where this £18m cash figure is coming from. I am seeing £24.5m.
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Dubz
21 Sep 2017, 11:34 AM
The record online saying SPFL will scrap their calls for a review at a board meeting today.
If so then Celtic should be all over this like a rash.

We can't let this go away.
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oneillsrevolution
21 Sep 2017, 11:43 AM
remy mcswain
21 Sep 2017, 07:02 AM
Pendy12
21 Sep 2017, 03:16 AM

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That is not correct.

Wages/bonuses will be massive for CL qualification, we have spent a lot of money on BR and his back room team and we had far too big a squad of non playing high earners last season.
There was debate on twitter between Paul Larkin and someone who said Celtic had 'scaled up'. Larkin was patronising, said that he knew that Celtic's wage bill remained static.

This rise seems to blow his pish out the water.
WTF would David Jason know about our wage bill?
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21 Sep 2017, 01:06 PM
Dubz
21 Sep 2017, 11:34 AM
The record online saying SPFL will scrap their calls for a review at a board meeting today.
If so then Celtic should be all over this like a rash.

We can't let this go away.
It's a story that was in the Scottish DailyMail theyare referring to.

They says as the SFA are not getting involved and Aberdeen, Hibs, Hearts and Kilmarnock have all said they have no interest in a review, they will not proceed.
They say that Celtic where the only ones to ask for a review.

So, where to next?
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21 Sep 2017, 01:24 PM
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21 Sep 2017, 01:06 PM
Dubz
21 Sep 2017, 11:34 AM
The record online saying SPFL will scrap their calls for a review at a board meeting today.
If so then Celtic should be all over this like a rash.

We can't let this go away.
It's a story that was in the Scottish DailyMail theyare referring to.

They says as the SFA are not getting involved and Aberdeen, Hibs, Hearts and Kilmarnock have all said they have no interest in a review, they will not proceed.
They say that Celtic where the only ones to ask for a review.

So, where to next?
Question should be asked why did Doncaster call for a review in the first place? Surely the SPFL clubs did want one, when that statement was put out a few weeks ago?

If they didn't then Doncaster needs to explain why?

If so, then Celtic now need to take the reigns on this. They have tried going through the correct channels via the association and they refused.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41350713

SPFL: Governing body disappointed over SFA's review stance
The Scottish Professional Football League has expressed its disappointment over the SFA's stance on a review into the handling of Rangers' EBT use.

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dazabhoy67
21 Sep 2017, 01:34 PM
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21 Sep 2017, 01:24 PM
dazabhoy67
21 Sep 2017, 01:06 PM

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It's a story that was in the Scottish DailyMail theyare referring to.

They says as the SFA are not getting involved and Aberdeen, Hibs, Hearts and Kilmarnock have all said they have no interest in a review, they will not proceed.
They say that Celtic where the only ones to ask for a review.

So, where to next?
Question should be asked why did Doncaster call for a review in the first place? Surely the SPFL clubs did want one, when that statement was put out a few weeks ago?

If they didn't then Doncaster needs to explain why?

If so, then Celtic now need to take the reigns on this. They have tried going through the correct channels via the association and they refused.
We have to go through every, so called, "legitimate" avenue available to us.

Each stage seems to have been planned, and obviously must be, and the outcomes anticipated.
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