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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,449 Views)
bigdavie
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First point of business, to TRFC, feck off, it's bugger all to do with you.
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remy mcswain
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Brucebhoy
15 Sep 2017, 10:48 AM
If it's the Karyn McCluskey I'm thinking of, she's a cop, but not the typical central Scotland type. I've met her, she's done some great work in violence reduction - she's struck me as someone with a clear sense of right and wrong and doesn't keep her head down and go with the flow.
It's her :thumbsup:
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Brucebhoy
15 Sep 2017, 10:48 AM
If it's the Karyn McCluskey I'm thinking of, she's a cop, but not the typical central Scotland type. I've met her, she's done some great work in violence reduction - she's struck me as someone with a clear sense of right and wrong and doesn't keep her head down and go with the flow.
“Going back ten years ago now, when I was trying to reduce violence, people said to me that it was too big and not to bother," she said. “Then they gave me a cup of tea and a biscuit. I never went back to see those who said that. It can be done.
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moravcik67
14 Sep 2017, 06:51 PM
Wee Ed KTF
14 Sep 2017, 02:52 PM
Ffdiva
14 Sep 2017, 02:29 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttps://mobile.twitter.com/Barcabhoy1/status/908300257511043072/photo/1

From Barcabhoy on twitter.
I believe Rangers Tax Case tweeted that the SFA received a Schedule 36 (?) from HMRC in 2009

The corrupt bastards at Hampden knew what the cheating, corrupt, criminal bastards at Ibrox were up to. The SFA are up to their necks in this scandal, hence no independent review

Edit - Schedule not section. Apologies
For those who don't know, a "Schedule 36" refers to the information powers HMRC has available to them - as defined in Schedule 36 of the Finance Act 2008. It basically requires a taxpayer or third party to hand over information relevant to a tax enquiry.

I'm assuming that such a demand for information did happen. If so it was a third party notice - the third party being the SFA. You can get authorisation for a third party notice in one of two ways - by agreement of the taxpayer you're enquiring into, or by a tribunal agreeing that the notice is appropriate. Given the huns obstruction of HMRC, it's unlikely that they would have agreed to HMRC's request to approach the SFA. Therefore, it would be likely that a tribunal approved the Schedule 36 notice. The SFA would then have been legally obliged to provide the requested information, or they would be hit by penalties.

The notice may or may not have named the huns, and the huns may or may not have known of HMRC's approach to the SFA. But I can't imagine it would have been too difficult for the SFA to work out why HMRC are requesting copies of the contracts of multiple hun players - assuming that's what they were after.

Edit: Actually, just saw a tweet from RTC from earlier today saying that Rangers agreed to the Sch36 notice, so maybe there was no tribunal involvement.
Although it comes under UEFA Club Licencing all clubs applying for one give the SFA Authority to make enquiries to public bodies under Article 43 (h) of UEFA FFP 2010/2011 and the predecessor regulations in 2005 page 54 contained a similar provision.

Question is were the SFA Licensing Committee aware at any time HMRC were investigating RFC use of ebts. That is not to say a Licence should not be granted on overdue payable grounds but in the case of Giannina FC whom UEFA discovered had 5 private agreements, UEFA deemed that a breach of accounting Articles and related Annex.

All of this is why SFA desperate to avoid investigation, it would destroy them as currently constituted.



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Why was Robertson excluded from discussions? His role now is with a totally different club.

Unless he was involved in Oldco.
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Celts88
15 Sep 2017, 01:28 AM
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14 Sep 2017, 11:06 AM
Celtic Football Club statement
By: Newsroom Staff on 09 Sep, 2017 11:30

IN the light of all information that has now become available, Celtic has been in correspondence with the Scottish Football Association in pursuit of the Club’s belief that an independent review should be commissioned to consider the events that led to the liquidation of Rangers Oldco and the governance issues arising from those events. This is exactly the same position as adopted by the SPFL board on behalf of all Scotland's 42 professional clubs.

Only Just realised the Main reason for Regan painting this as Just One Member Club.
Regan is talking through a hole, and it's not his mouth.

All Celtic have said is that they're just asking for an enquiry, the same as what the SPFL have, with the SPFL representing 42 Clubs.

Regan in his response say's that the SFA board have made the decision on behalf of the 108 clubs they represent. At no time did the SFA have a vote of their own members before issuing their statement (the same as what the SPFL did).

• SFA board issue a statement - represents 108 clubs
• SPFL issue a statement - only 1 club backs it

Regan's just a snake slithering around until the big boot of Celtic comes squarely down on his big head :ynwa:
I sincerely hope so, the guy is a charlatan.

The SFA had to agree to an investigation into the UEFA Licence 2011 based on evidence that they say came from the CW trial but in fact was presented to same Compliance Officer by Res12 lawyers in 2015 and other evidence shown to them by Celtic in 2014 that they argued made no difference.

Any investigation has to cover SFA involvement from 2010 to 2016. See here https://www.sfm.scot/the-vice-closes/?cid=161206

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http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/competitions/premiership/opinion-stephen-mcilkenny-on-why-sfa-review-is-necessary-for-real-change-1-4561256

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Starting to get the feeling that the hun won't lose their titles.

Think there's far too much fear that the mad bastards will go rogue
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Dannybhoy95
15 Sep 2017, 04:51 PM
Starting to get the feeling that the hun won't lose their titles.

Think there's far too much fear that the mad bastards will go rogue
Dead club goes rogue. Sounds a bit zombie like.
If they are intent on keeping their titles maybe they should square off the debt.
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Dannybhoy95
15 Sep 2017, 04:51 PM
Starting to get the feeling that the hun won't lose their titles.

Think there's far too much fear that the mad bastards will go rogue
They went rogue years ago mhate.
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No danger will they lose "their" titles. That's been made crystal clear,Regans shampoo scared of them.

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Something has to give, either the titles or the same club myth.
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The noose is tightening. Celtic have allowed their correspondence with the SFA to be published; Regan is blustering about no clubs other than Celtic being interested, to much public derision; RTC is releasing incriminating documentation about HMRC involvement that dates back to 2009 and implicates Bryson, and is promising more to come; Phil is putting questions to the SFA publicly; the press are finally writing about it, and Doncaster and the SPFL have called for an inquiry -- but naw, they'll tough it out.

In their dreams.
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Brucebhoy
15 Sep 2017, 10:48 AM
If it's the Karyn McCluskey I'm thinking of, she's a cop, but not the typical central Scotland type. I've met her, she's done some great work in violence reduction - she's struck me as someone with a clear sense of right and wrong and doesn't keep her head down and go with the flow.
What's this in reference to? :ponder:
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kellybhoy
15 Sep 2017, 06:10 PM
Brucebhoy
15 Sep 2017, 10:48 AM
If it's the Karyn McCluskey I'm thinking of, she's a cop, but not the typical central Scotland type. I've met her, she's done some great work in violence reduction - she's struck me as someone with a clear sense of right and wrong and doesn't keep her head down and go with the flow.
What's this in reference to? :ponder:
She is a NED on the SPFL board.
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remy mcswain
15 Sep 2017, 06:14 PM
kellybhoy
15 Sep 2017, 06:10 PM
Brucebhoy
15 Sep 2017, 10:48 AM
If it's the Karyn McCluskey I'm thinking of, she's a cop, but not the typical central Scotland type. I've met her, she's done some great work in violence reduction - she's struck me as someone with a clear sense of right and wrong and doesn't keep her head down and go with the flow.
What's this in reference to? :ponder:
She is a NED on the SPFL board.
She's no the only one.
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BardseyCelt
15 Sep 2017, 04:42 PM
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/competitions/premiership/opinion-stephen-mcilkenny-on-why-sfa-review-is-necessary-for-real-change-1-4561256

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At least one supporting voice in the wilderness.
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Wailer
15 Sep 2017, 05:04 PM
Something has to give, either the titles or the same club myth.
If they had any bloody brains SFA could have used the Traverso letter of 8th June 2016 to Res12 lawyers as a get out of jail free card.

They could have said that SFA recognised that they were in conflict with UEFA rules in using SFA discretion to transfer RFC's SFA membership to TRFC and that records will reflect the real position of UEFA authority.

The investigation into the UEFA licence will show it was obtained by deceit but again if SFA have any brains will say that as has been pointed out by UEFA in Traverso letter RFC cannot be punished etc etc etc

Cheating bastards confirmed? Check.
Not same club. History began 2012? Check.

Result. :rocker:

Oh and Regan to clean the Celtic Way with his tongue on route to licking PL'S boots as he accepts an abject apology from SFA to all Celtic shareholders before Regan resigns.

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remy mcswain
15 Sep 2017, 06:14 PM
kellybhoy
15 Sep 2017, 06:10 PM
Brucebhoy
15 Sep 2017, 10:48 AM
If it's the Karyn McCluskey I'm thinking of, she's a cop, but not the typical central Scotland type. I've met her, she's done some great work in violence reduction - she's struck me as someone with a clear sense of right and wrong and doesn't keep her head down and go with the flow.
What's this in reference to? :ponder:
She is a NED on the SPFL board.
:thumbsup: Thanks.
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15 Sep 2017, 05:00 PM
No danger will they lose "their" titles. That's been made crystal clear,Regans shampoo scared of them.

Regan could become an irrelevance.
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