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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,450 Views)
Joe the Baker
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blanco
14 Sep 2017, 04:50 PM
Joe the Baker
14 Sep 2017, 04:14 PM
Un-named chairman in the Record today saying Reagan has been economical with the truth when he said only one club wants a review.
Has the article been pulled? Had a look but it doesn't appear to be online.
Not sure, it was in the actual paper, stuck away 6 pages into the sport section in a wee side article.

The chairman didn't wish to be named for commercial reasons but said he has spoken to a number of other chairmen / directors who want a review, some who don't and some have no strong opinions either way.
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14 Sep 2017, 02:52 PM
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14 Sep 2017, 02:00 PM

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https://mobile.twitter.com/Barcabhoy1/status/908300257511043072/photo/1

From Barcabhoy on twitter.
I believe Rangers Tax Case tweeted that the SFA received a Schedule 36 (?) from HMRC in 2009

The corrupt bastards at Hampden knew what the cheating, corrupt, criminal bastards at Ibrox were up to. The SFA are up to their necks in this scandal, hence no independent review

Edit - Schedule not section. Apologies
For those who don't know, a "Schedule 36" refers to the information powers HMRC has available to them - as defined in Schedule 36 of the Finance Act 2008. It basically requires a taxpayer or third party to hand over information relevant to a tax enquiry.

I'm assuming that such a demand for information did happen. If so it was a third party notice - the third party being the SFA. You can get authorisation for a third party notice in one of two ways - by agreement of the taxpayer you're enquiring into, or by a tribunal agreeing that the notice is appropriate. Given the huns obstruction of HMRC, it's unlikely that they would have agreed to HMRC's request to approach the SFA. Therefore, it would be likely that a tribunal approved the Schedule 36 notice. The SFA would then have been legally obliged to provide the requested information, or they would be hit by penalties.

The notice may or may not have named the huns, and the huns may or may not have known of HMRC's approach to the SFA. But I can't imagine it would have been too difficult for the SFA to work out why HMRC are requesting copies of the contracts of multiple hun players - assuming that's what they were after.

Edit: Actually, just saw a tweet from RTC from earlier today saying that Rangers agreed to the Sch36 notice, so maybe there was no tribunal involvement.
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The tweets today showing when the SFA were formally informed about the use of EBTs at Ibrox is just further proof of the real reason why the SFA won't countenance a review - they simply cannot afford for even half of what went on to get out. They are too deep into it. They have one hope and that it they stonewall their way through this until Celtic gave up. Regan and co will do and say anything to avoid a review. All favours will be called all promises and threats made.

Imo there are only two possible outcomes - either we get a Judical review that we will obviously win or else we don't get a judicial review and we have to live with being cheated.

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steviefrombelfast
14 Sep 2017, 07:13 PM
The tweets today showing when the SFA were formally informed about the use of EBTs at Ibrox is just further proof of the real reason why the SFA won't countenance a review - they simply cannot afford for even half of what went on to get out. They are too deep into it. They have one hope and that it they stonewall their way through this until Celtic gave up. Regan and co will do and say anything to avoid a review. All favours will be called all promises and threats made.

Imo there are only two possible outcomes - either we get a Judical review that we will obviously win or else we don't get a judicial review and we have to live with being cheated.

Celtic won't let this go now and the SFA know it.
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14 Sep 2017, 07:18 PM
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14 Sep 2017, 07:13 PM
The tweets today showing when the SFA were formally informed about the use of EBTs at Ibrox is just further proof of the real reason why the SFA won't countenance a review - they simply cannot afford for even half of what went on to get out. They are too deep into it. They have one hope and that it they stonewall their way through this until Celtic gave up. Regan and co will do and say anything to avoid a review. All favours will be called all promises and threats made.

Imo there are only two possible outcomes - either we get a Judical review that we will obviously win or else we don't get a judicial review and we have to live with being cheated.

Celtic won't let this go now and the SFA know it.
Even if we can force a judicial review the carrots will still hope to get away with it. The amount of stuff that's came out about the LNS farce shows that even when they admit wrongdoing there's a chance they'll still get away relatively unscathed.
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14 Sep 2017, 07:40 PM
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14 Sep 2017, 07:18 PM
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14 Sep 2017, 07:13 PM
The tweets today showing when the SFA were formally informed about the use of EBTs at Ibrox is just further proof of the real reason why the SFA won't countenance a review - they simply cannot afford for even half of what went on to get out. They are too deep into it. They have one hope and that it they stonewall their way through this until Celtic gave up. Regan and co will do and say anything to avoid a review. All favours will be called all promises and threats made.

Imo there are only two possible outcomes - either we get a Judical review that we will obviously win or else we don't get a judicial review and we have to live with being cheated.

Celtic won't let this go now and the SFA know it.
Even if we can force a judicial review the carrots will still hope to get away with it. The amount of stuff that's came out about the LNS farce shows that even when they admit wrongdoing there's a chance they'll still get away relatively unscathed.
If we get a judicial review we will wipe the floor with them. Their only hope is we don't get the review.
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Even if we can force a judicial review the carrots will still hope to get away with it. The amount of stuff that's came out about the LNS farce shows that even when they admit wrongdoing there's a chance they'll still get away relatively unscathed.
If we get a judicial review we will wipe the floor with them. Their only hope is we don't get the review.
I hope you're correct but I don't think anythings a foregone conclusion where Huns are involved.
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14 Sep 2017, 08:38 PM
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If we get a judicial review we will wipe the floor with them. Their only hope is we don't get the review.
I hope you're correct but I don't think anythings a foregone conclusion where Huns are involved.
Like death of a club?
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I hope you're correct but I don't think anythings a foregone conclusion where Huns are involved.
Like death of a club?
Pioneers of liquidation survival.
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14 Sep 2017, 08:58 PM
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Like death of a club?
Pioneers of liquidation survival.
The club wasn't liquidated

Copyright Jabba :arrr:
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Not one reporter asking fat Jabba to clarify his point!
I'm not sure if the bold carrot is claiming Rangers have not yet been liquidated as its a long process. Or if he's trying the old "it wis pure ra holding company that wur liquidated no the club" pish.

Either way when he starts piping up with these comments the camera should be immediately turned on him and follow up questions asked.
Not a single journalist amongst them, even calling them reporters is a compliment since they won't even report facts. They meekly promote the spin and propaganda. shampooebags!
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14 Sep 2017, 04:10 PM
Things seemed to be moving quickly last weekend, now its not going fast enough for me :(

I understand these things take time but wasn't there a time limit of like 3 months after the FTTT verdict for appeal?

Can't remember exactly what it was all about, but I'm sure there was only a small window left for some reason.
The expectation is that the 3 month deadline starts from the SFA refusal of Celtic's request for an Independent Enquiry. This would mean the 3 month period has just started

QC has been asked to confirm this view
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14 Sep 2017, 11:06 AM
Celtic Football Club statement
By: Newsroom Staff on 09 Sep, 2017 11:30

IN the light of all information that has now become available, Celtic has been in correspondence with the Scottish Football Association in pursuit of the Club’s belief that an independent review should be commissioned to consider the events that led to the liquidation of Rangers Oldco and the governance issues arising from those events. This is exactly the same position as adopted by the SPFL board on behalf of all Scotland's 42 professional clubs.

Only Just realised the Main reason for Regan painting this as Just One Member Club.
Regan is talking through a hole, and it's not his mouth.

All Celtic have said is that they're just asking for an enquiry, the same as what the SPFL have, with the SPFL representing 42 Clubs.

Regan in his response say's that the SFA board have made the decision on behalf of the 108 clubs they represent. At no time did the SFA have a vote of their own members before issuing their statement (the same as what the SPFL did).

• SFA board issue a statement - represents 108 clubs
• SPFL issue a statement - only 1 club backs it

Regan's just a snake slithering around until the big boot of Celtic comes squarely down on his big head :ynwa:
Edited by Celts88, 15 Sep 2017, 01:52 AM.
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14 Sep 2017, 05:06 PM
What is Regan's rationale for as he states contacting all 108 clubs for their views
Regan didn't say they had contacted 108 clubs, it was that only 1 club had contacted them since they had issued their statement declining the enquiry

The SMSM are just going along with the play of words that Regan is using, and if a dumb arse like me can see through it then why can't they (just noticed why my logic is flawed, with assuming SMSM are better than dumb arses :doh: )
Edited by Celts88, 15 Sep 2017, 01:57 AM.
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15 Sep 2017, 03:41 AM
It says the thought of Aberdeen playing group games in the central belt is 'unthinkable'. Still not as unthinkable as the prospect of them actually qualifying for group games.
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Let's look at EBT's but not focus on rangers.
That'll not last long then.

SPFL chief faces grilling over Rangers EBT letter to SFA as his own board demand clarification
Neil Doncaster will be asked to explain the letter that called for a review into the use of EBTs at Rangers when the SPFL board had made it clear any such review must not focus on the Ibrox
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15 Sep 2017, 08:22 AM
Let's look at EBT's but not focus on rangers.
That'll not last long then.

SPFL chief faces grilling over Rangers EBT letter to SFA as his own board demand clarification
Neil Doncaster will be asked to explain the letter that called for a review into the use of EBTs at Rangers when the SPFL board had made it clear any such review must not focus on the Ibrox
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They really are running scared.

The actual terms of reference in the letter are exactly what the SPFL board asked for according to the report but they focus on a headline because it has the word 'Rangers' in it.

What about this headline... http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-ebt-ruling-reviewed-spfl-10861966

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If it's the Karyn McCluskey I'm thinking of, she's a cop, but not the typical central Scotland type. I've met her, she's done some great work in violence reduction - she's struck me as someone with a clear sense of right and wrong and doesn't keep her head down and go with the flow.
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So Rangers expressed their anger? What's it got to do with them?

Doncaster's same club gibberish is about to bite him on the arse.
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