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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,457 Views)
Lobey Dosser
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murphio
12 Sep 2017, 08:25 AM
Interesting Reagan says Sevco might, under the terms of the five way stitch up, be punished if it is found the Euro license was fraudulent.
What did he say Murphio, I haven't caught up with his latest meanderings.
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pablo5
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After some eejit in blue tried to burn down Raith Rovers stadium the last time someone came out against the great SFA / Rangers carve up, you can't really blame smaller clubs for staying quiet.
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I'm hoping that all of the clubs who have been punished by the SFA for registration errors, no matter how minor, join forces and demand a full investigation into Rangers.
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qualitystreetkid
12 Sep 2017, 08:15 AM
shugmc
12 Sep 2017, 08:06 AM
qualitystreetkid
12 Sep 2017, 07:34 AM
An 'interview' that consists of nothing more than begging the question, red herrings, card-stacking and bandwagoning

Duplicitous carrot

‘It’s only Celtic asking for a review’

Pish
Alan Pattullo. The most faithful of all Murray's lamb scoffing lapdogs :carrot:
He may well be, but too many of them are baws deep in this, and it makes Regan's deceits so much easier ... as both parties are so well aware.
My pushback to them is do we really think four QCs, three law lords, all the club execs, all the independent panel members are all part of some huge conspiracy?

That's like something straight out of The Simpsons. How could such smart smart people be wrong you stupid little people, Enron Emerald.
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lenobhoy
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ronny_is_not_da_man
12 Sep 2017, 08:27 AM
murphio
12 Sep 2017, 08:25 AM
Interesting Reagan says Sevco might, under the terms of the five way stitch up, be punished if it is found the Euro license was fraudulent.
Huns get punished? Murph you need yer morning coffee bud :lol:
:lol: Did we get fined more from poaching TB from Kilmarnock than the Huns fine for cheating? :suspect:
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Ffdiva
12 Sep 2017, 12:13 AM
ProvansSocks
11 Sep 2017, 09:51 PM
Hoops For Me All The Way
11 Sep 2017, 09:12 PM

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No need to apologise and no one else is behind what I post.

I haven't explained myself too well but it really doesn't take the sharpest!
Would we win on our own? Would we weaken ourselves in the process?

So you feel we should back off from taking the corrupt to task on this, on account of the cowardice of
the chairmen of other clubs ? :nono:

Do you know what the definition of character is?
Doing the right thing when nobody's looking.

We're doing the right thing.We have smart people at our club and among our support.
We have right on our side, there is overwhelming evidence of malfeasance.

We were cheated, we were lied to, we lost income, we lost prestige, we lost leagues and cups
that we should have won, we lost good players, we lost access to the CL, we had to " know our place "
when we were ridiculed by Sir :boik: tenners for fivers, and by those excuses for journalists still churning
out their Sevco PR

We were told we were paranoid, our kids came home devastated at coming so close, but
ultimately losing to a financially doped, hubristic shower of cheats.
Oh and just to crown it all, once the cheats were rumbled, those tasked with implementing the rules,
ignored and bent the rules to facilitate the cheats, to more or less carry on as normal, even to the extent
of declaring them the same club.

Yeah, let's back off because it's going to be difficult. Eff that.

:clap:

I think I can safely say Mr D doesn't win many arguments in the hoose. :lol:
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Willie Wonka
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lenobhoy
12 Sep 2017, 08:45 AM
ronny_is_not_da_man
12 Sep 2017, 08:27 AM
murphio
12 Sep 2017, 08:25 AM
Interesting Reagan says Sevco might, under the terms of the five way stitch up, be punished if it is found the Euro license was fraudulent.
Huns get punished? Murph you need yer morning coffee bud :lol:
:lol: Did we get fined more from poaching TB from Kilmarnock than the Huns fine for cheating? :suspect:
It was £500k iirc, so x2 what the hun got. Seem to remember some sfa gymnastics when the deid ones tapped up wattie too.
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Willie Wonka
12 Sep 2017, 08:51 AM
lenobhoy
12 Sep 2017, 08:45 AM
ronny_is_not_da_man
12 Sep 2017, 08:27 AM

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:lol: Did we get fined more from poaching TB from Kilmarnock than the Huns fine for cheating? :suspect:
It was £500k iirc, so x2 what the hun got. Seem to remember some sfa gymnastics when the deid ones tapped up wattie too.
Not £100k?
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Marado
12 Sep 2017, 08:03 AM
All this talk of boycotts, threats to other clubs, non cooperation etc etc is all a bit hunesque if you ask me.

Carry on as normal and let our legal team deal with it and see what happens - there is a pile of shampoo about to be brought out here and the SFA acting outraged and appealing to everyone to move on isn't going to change eff all.
Not only is it hunesque, the only people it would really punish is us. Our fans would be deprived great away day trips and Cup Finals. There'd be no more trebles to celebrate. Our Scottish players - most of whom probably couldn't care less about events at Ibrox - would be deprived of international careers and the possibility of playing at a World Cup. And this is supposed to punish the SFA and the rest of Scottish football? Bonkers.
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Ffdiva
12 Sep 2017, 12:13 AM
ProvansSocks
11 Sep 2017, 09:51 PM
Hoops For Me All The Way
11 Sep 2017, 09:12 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
No need to apologise and no one else is behind what I post.

I haven't explained myself too well but it really doesn't take the sharpest!
Would we win on our own? Would we weaken ourselves in the process?

So you feel we should back off from taking the corrupt to task on this, on account of the cowardice of
the chairmen of other clubs ? :nono:

Do you know what the definition of character is?
Doing the right thing when nobody's looking.

We're doing the right thing.We have smart people at our club and among our support.
We have right on our side, there is overwhelming evidence of malfeasance.

We were cheated, we were lied to, we lost income, we lost prestige, we lost leagues and cups
that we should have won, we lost good players, we lost access to the CL, we had to " know our place "
when we were ridiculed by Sir :boik: tenners for fivers, and by those excuses for journalists still churning
out their Sevco PR

We were told we were paranoid, our kids came home devastated at coming so close, but
ultimately losing to a financially doped, hubristic shower of cheats.
Oh and just to crown it all, once the cheats were rumbled, those tasked with implementing the rules,
ignored and bent the rules to facilitate the cheats, to more or less carry on as normal, even to the extent
of declaring them the same club.

Yeah, let's back off because it's going to be difficult. Eff that.

:theclap:
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pablo5
12 Sep 2017, 08:40 AM
After some eejit in blue tried to burn down Raith Rovers stadium the last time someone came out against the great SFA / Rangers carve up, you can't really blame smaller clubs for staying quiet.
Exactly. This has never been about doing the right thing, and it's nothing to do with masonic conspiracies.

This is about a group of individuals choosing the option which they believe causes the least amount of hassle. They believe there will be greater fallout (to them and/or to Scottish football) from stripping the titles than not stripping the titles.

They decided at the start what the safest outcome would be, and everything since then has been geared towards supporting that outcome. They're in too deep for their mind to be changed, and as the decision was never based on right/wrong, any argument there will be meaningless on its own.

The only way this will change is if stripping the titles becomes the easier option. That isn't going to happen because of supporters, it's going to happen if/when Celtic force the issue - and by whatever means necessary. We're the biggest player in Scottish football.
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Willie Wonka
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qualitystreetkid
12 Sep 2017, 08:56 AM
Willie Wonka
12 Sep 2017, 08:51 AM
lenobhoy
12 Sep 2017, 08:45 AM

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It was £500k iirc, so x2 what the hun got. Seem to remember some sfa gymnastics when the deid ones tapped up wattie too.
Not £100k?
aye so it was, :lol: its an age thing :suspect:
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Willie Wonka
12 Sep 2017, 09:12 AM
qualitystreetkid
12 Sep 2017, 08:56 AM
Willie Wonka
12 Sep 2017, 08:51 AM

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Not £100k?
aye so it was, :lol: its an age thing :suspect:
I think we had legal fees and that to pay also. It ended up around £500k.
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SwavBhoy
12 Sep 2017, 09:14 AM
Willie Wonka
12 Sep 2017, 09:12 AM
qualitystreetkid
12 Sep 2017, 08:56 AM

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aye so it was, :lol: its an age thing :suspect:
I think we had legal fees and that to pay also. It ended up around £500k.
The legal fees accrued from challenging the then Scottish record fine?
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Larbertbhoy
12 Sep 2017, 08:16 AM
MILLIGANS ISLAND
12 Sep 2017, 08:06 AM
Marado
12 Sep 2017, 08:03 AM
All this talk of boycotts, threats to other clubs, non cooperation etc etc is all a bit hunesque if you ask me.

Carry on as normal and let our legal team deal with it and see what happens - there is a pile of shampoo about to be brought out here and the SFA acting outraged and appealing to everyone to move on isn't going to change eff all.
This.

I'm not of a view to punish any other club,or potentially stop our players playing international football over this,we all know who the real targets in this should be.

No way would lawwell have issued that statement if we aren't going all the way on this. I'm convinced now that the club are on this.
I would tend to tell Rod Petrie to suck my fat one if Hibs came looking for a loan player.
No, no. We should give them more players to assist in their bright future.
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The Burns fine was 100k which was still way over anything that came before; irrc the previous highest was 25k. The SFA has always been a law onto itself. A question; has even one newspaper reported that Rangers defrauded Everton over Michael Ball's transfer to PSV?
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I think the 500k was the figure the SFA fleeced us for using Hampden.
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So the SPFL which has 42 members has called for an enquiry. But the SFA which has the same members plus the lower leagues says there is no support for an enquiry. And 3 clubs which are members of the SPFL have declared they don't support a call for enquiry.

There's a lot of contradictory stances going on!
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Grafenwalder
12 Sep 2017, 09:24 AM
I think the 500k was the figure the SFA fleeced us for using Hampden.
The Bunnet
 
There was also £300,000 in fines and costs on Celtic for engaging a manager who had made clear his wish to join us. A manager who was in the last year of his contract with Kilmarnock and was earning £40,000 a year

Not quite £500k, but I remembered there was costs over and above the fine.
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murphio
12 Sep 2017, 09:21 AM
The Burns fine was 100k which was still way over anything that came before; irrc the previous highest was 25k. The SFA has always been a law onto itself. A question; has even one newspaper reported that Rangers defrauded Everton over Michael Ball's transfer to PSV?
The £100k fine taking inflation into consideration from 1994 to 2012 is the equivalent of £175k in 2012 terms.
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