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| puroresu_boy | 11 Sep 2017, 03:15 PM Post #11041 |
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Remember Regan was the one pushing for Sevco to be planted into Div 1. "We cant punish 41 clubs for the mismanagement of one" is what he said. He should of been removed from office then!!! |
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| Sheshoon | 11 Sep 2017, 03:24 PM Post #11042 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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I think despite the impatient, doubts and criticism on here at times, PL/Celtic Board are demonstrating that they are and have been decisive. A longer game than was desired had to be played here and that's how PL's being playing it, frustrating as that's been. I don't believe that hanging on till after the Sevco game is holding fire on anything though. On the contrary, I've absolutely no doubt there will be schitload of stuff going on in the back ground, that's been long in the planning. And I wouldnae worry about Regan and the SMSM driving any narrative. You could argue the same thing happened on many occasions in the past, not least when the narrative was that everything was cushtie down Ibrox way....but it didn't stop the huns dying. So, as far as Regan attempting to dictate the narrative, that was predictable and will have been anticipated. At the end of the day I don't think that will have much bearing on how this pans out. I can see this ending up in a court room and the outcome decided by the legal cats. Everything up till that point is just the prelude. So Regan can go on as many phone in's, issue any many statements through the SMSM as he likes, won't save his ass, nor the SFA's. |
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| Seneca | 11 Sep 2017, 03:33 PM Post #11043 |
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Please correct me if I'm reading this bit wrong, but: If Oldco, for a decade, submitted contracts to the SFA which covered only a false percentage of what they were actually paying their players, was there not one person at the SFA who thought "Hold on - Rangers are paying their players only half to two thirds what Celtic are paying theirs, yet easily competing with them...what's going on here?" |
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| Forza | 11 Sep 2017, 03:33 PM Post #11044 |
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Considering retirement
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More than 40 senior Scottish football clubs played in at least 30 stagings of the highest level professional football tournaments in this country over a 10 year period where one club deliberately did not pay PAYE and NI taxes totalling £40m on salaried income paid to players and other football staff. To be clear, a benefit denied every other club taking part in these tournaments. The amount of unpaid tax in some years alone is greater than the combined annual turnover of about 20 of these clubs put together. These payments were concealed from the national governing body, invalidating the registrations of all players with earnings provided by EBT, and all games in which these players played over that 10 year period. They won 14 of these tournaments. Who knows what the aggregate total prize money for the stagings of these 30 tournaments is, and the associated financial rewards with qualifications for the Champions League and Europa League. It clearly runs to over £150m, a figure which does not take into account the expenditure by fans on several million separate transacted payments to sit and watch these tournaments where one team did not pay any tax on a significant portion of player salaries. This happened despite the SFA registration rules being in place and known to all football club administrators. This also happened despite SFA knowledge of HMRC investigating alleged RFC tax avoidance as early as 2004. The only reason we are five years on from 2012 is due to the conclusion of the myriad legal cases culminating in the Supreme Court upholding the HMRC's successful appeal to the CoS and the end of the Craig Whyte trial. These prevented calls for a review at an earlier date. The time for Scottish football to move on is at the end of a fully independent, impartial and transparent review which has powers to investigate all of the Scottish football authorities. |
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| weebaldy | 11 Sep 2017, 03:40 PM Post #11045 |
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We Won the Big One-They Never Will!
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It's like Watergate I just hope we get the same results i.e. the truth and resignations from top to bottom of all those who were implicit in this scandal
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| qualitystreetkid | 11 Sep 2017, 03:57 PM Post #11046 |
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Thank you, bye-bye for calling
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I think that was Doncaster and not Regan - but I do agree Regan should have been shot with a ball of his own shampooe at that period anyway. |
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| tomtom | 11 Sep 2017, 04:00 PM Post #11047 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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Hear no evil, see no evil. Frank De Boer's contract must have interesting to look at as he apparently received all his salary through an EBT. |
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| kellybhoy | 11 Sep 2017, 04:02 PM Post #11048 |
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Play me or trade me
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If it results in Regan and/or Doncaster resigning, and King, Dickson, Johnson and others being barred from football, I would be partially satisfied, but only the stripping of titles would wholly satisfy me. I suspect however that partial satisfaction is all we can expect. |
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| tinytim81 | 11 Sep 2017, 04:06 PM Post #11049 |
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Agreed. I couldn't care less if we have other clubs supporting us. |
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| Jimmy_Quinn's_Hattrick | 11 Sep 2017, 04:07 PM Post #11050 |
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| dazabhoy67 | 11 Sep 2017, 04:08 PM Post #11051 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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I think Graham Spiers said something similar in his article at the weekend. "Fans across the country, including Rangers fans know something dodgy was going on when those titles were won" Personally I feel the titles need to be stripped, its a consequence of systematic cheating, not a punishment. |
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| JohnBhoy65 | 11 Sep 2017, 04:09 PM Post #11052 |
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Very well written post and one of the best explanations of why there should be a review of how it happened and why Oldco should be stripped of the titles that they illegally won during this period in question. |
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| Torquemada | 11 Sep 2017, 04:09 PM Post #11053 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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It strikes me that Stewart Regan is now intent on, or else being careless of, the social unrest he was so quick to warn us of back in 2012. A cornered rat springs to mind. I once thought the consequences of all of this being uncovered would be resignations and loss of ludicrously well-paying blazered jobs. Given the evident desperation to keep a lid on things, jail time can no longer be ruled out. Just how much corruption is there to be dug up??? |
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| Larbertbhoy | 11 Sep 2017, 04:12 PM Post #11054 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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And yet only one of these 40 clubs has demanded a review. Cowardly bastards , scared to lose the Hun pound. Even Leanne Dempsey at Hibs has said nothing. We need more clubs to demand a review , but I'm not confident. |
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| Torquemada | 11 Sep 2017, 04:41 PM Post #11055 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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Dempster, mhate, not Dempsey. A Dempsey would have knocked their blocks off.
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| murphio | 11 Sep 2017, 04:45 PM Post #11056 |
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Could start a row in an empty room
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Cracking article from Phil. https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2017/09/11/time-to-go-mr-regan/ |
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| bigkev | 11 Sep 2017, 04:52 PM Post #11057 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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SFA stated they had been advised that legally they could not reopen the enquiry however claim that they wrote and asked clubs if they wanted one and only we did? If you had been told you couldnt legally why would you then ask who wanted one? I am struggling to understand what version of events are true? My guess is none. |
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| Fearghas | 11 Sep 2017, 04:58 PM Post #11058 |
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good point. dirty lying bastards. |
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| littlegmbhoy | 11 Sep 2017, 05:11 PM Post #11059 |
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Club Captain
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Withdrawing emotion from the subject or trying to. Regan should be judged on results like anyone else in his position should be. The national team has failed 3 or 4 qualifications for major tournaments under him. Including the double header we have en route when even the most optimistic Tartan barmy fan would say its along shot before any seeded play off is put into play. Revenues are down last 2/3 years, he has over saw Rangers/Sevco death when he is comments at the time were so far out of tune that the fans of other teams threatened rebellion and he seems to have shat himself so never went down “relegate them to division 1 “ pish. His full tenure has been pretty horrific for an administrator. He has been shockingly poor.... best is he continues in his role. |
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| Bhoyball | 11 Sep 2017, 05:15 PM Post #11060 |
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No trouble with trebles.
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Just spent a few hours on various fans forums and almost overwhelming is the sentiment FOR the enquiry. Even Most Hearts fans bar a number who's hatred for us overrides anything else are in support. Many of them are fuming at their various boards. We could do with a vehicle to bring this joint feeling to the media. It would pile on the pressure to all boards and the SFA. |
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I just hope we get the same results i.e. the truth and resignations from top to bottom of all those who were implicit in this scandal






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