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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,474 Views)
tenerifetim
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boozebhoy
11 Sep 2017, 07:53 AM
If the SFA continue with their refusal to cooperate could Celtic withhold their players turning out for the national team in important WC qualifying matches?
Don't think the Club can do this but the individuals could decline selection surely? :ph43r:
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boozebhoy
11 Sep 2017, 07:53 AM
If the SFA continue with their refusal to cooperate could Celtic withhold their players turning out for the national team in important WC qualifying matches?
Then this would be seen as a Celtic v SFA thing. The SMSM would have a field day.
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tomtom
11 Sep 2017, 09:01 AM
boozebhoy
11 Sep 2017, 07:53 AM
If the SFA continue with their refusal to cooperate could Celtic withhold their players turning out for the national team in important WC qualifying matches?
Then this would be seen as a Celtic v SFA thing. The SMSM would have a field day.
It's already that.
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boozebhoy
11 Sep 2017, 07:53 AM
If the SFA continue with their refusal to cooperate could Celtic withhold their players turning out for the national team in important WC qualifying matches?
So our Scottish players could be deprived the chance to play in a World Cup because of cheating by another club in a different era?
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Wanyerma
11 Sep 2017, 09:32 AM
tomtom
11 Sep 2017, 09:01 AM
boozebhoy
11 Sep 2017, 07:53 AM
If the SFA continue with their refusal to cooperate could Celtic withhold their players turning out for the national team in important WC qualifying matches?
Then this would be seen as a Celtic v SFA thing. The SMSM would have a field day.
It's already that.
Yes, but that doesn't mean we should give them ammunition to fire at us with.
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kellybhoy
11 Sep 2017, 12:32 AM
tinytim81
10 Sep 2017, 09:56 AM
kellybhoy
10 Sep 2017, 02:59 AM

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So what's the distinction between judicial and independent then?
Judicial review has power to overturn a decision by a legal entity (e.g. tribunal). Independent review is just an enquiry conducted by an independent body that can only make recommendations.
So does that mean a judicial review could overturn the Nimmo Smith findings?
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Funny how the Huns who have been going on about the SFA being "corrupt to the core" are now against a review into said organisation
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henrikisgod
11 Sep 2017, 10:01 AM
Funny how the Huns who have been going on about the SFA being "corrupt to the core" are now against a review into said organisation
They've been brandishing that banner since the day of the Hedge but now it's becoming reality they want no part of proceedings.
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I resent the fact the media are trying to turn this into Celtic somehow are trying to drag Scottish Football down and its Celtic alone who want a review.

Why when Milne from Aberdeen says he wants no review did nobody in the media call him out on this and demand the game gets its house in order?

As soon as we say the opposite Celtic become the bad guys.
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puroresu_boy
11 Sep 2017, 10:25 AM
I resent the fact the media are trying to turn this into Celtic somehow are trying to drag Scottish Football down and its Celtic alone who want a review.

Why when Milne from Aberdeen says he wants no review did nobody in the media call him out on this and demand the game gets its house in order?

As soon as we say the opposite Celtic become the bad guys.
As long as Celtic take them on, I couldn't give a toss how the media portray it.

Eventually the truth will reveal itself.
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Joe the Baker
11 Sep 2017, 10:28 AM
puroresu_boy
11 Sep 2017, 10:25 AM
I resent the fact the media are trying to turn this into Celtic somehow are trying to drag Scottish Football down and its Celtic alone who want a review.

Why when Milne from Aberdeen says he wants no review did nobody in the media call him out on this and demand the game gets its house in order?

As soon as we say the opposite Celtic become the bad guys.
As long as Celtic take them on, I couldn't give a toss how the media portray it.

Eventually the truth will reveal itself.
Dependant on what unravels Budge and Milne could be finished in the eyes of their support if it looks as though they were attempting to divert from justice.
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henrikisgod
11 Sep 2017, 10:01 AM
Funny how the Huns who have been going on about the SFA being "corrupt to the core" are now against a review into said organisation
About the only thing I'd say the huns are right about is the SFA are corrupt to the core.

Why they aren't welcoming the chance to get the facts out on the open is beyond me.

What are you afraid of, Billy?
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Joe the Baker
11 Sep 2017, 10:28 AM
puroresu_boy
11 Sep 2017, 10:25 AM
I resent the fact the media are trying to turn this into Celtic somehow are trying to drag Scottish Football down and its Celtic alone who want a review.

Why when Milne from Aberdeen says he wants no review did nobody in the media call him out on this and demand the game gets its house in order?

As soon as we say the opposite Celtic become the bad guys.
As long as Celtic take them on, I couldn't give a toss how the media portray it.

Eventually the truth will reveal itself.
Eff the SMSM. If the events since 2010 (when Phil Mac's story about Rangers (IL)'s tax evasion went mainstream in the NOTW) have taught us anything, it's that the SMSM cannot be trusted to tell the truth.

IMO, there are two types of journalists in the SMSM: Huns and cowards. The cowards will not speak the truth because of fear - fear of their bosses, fear for their careers and fear of the Klan.

If the SMSM had any credibility, honesty and integrity, there would be a clamour from them for truth and justice. There would be a clamour to strip David Murray of his knighthood because of the damage he did to the Scottish economy and to Scottish football.

Eff them.

Only the fans can create the pressure to expose the truth.
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Joe the Baker
11 Sep 2017, 10:28 AM
puroresu_boy
11 Sep 2017, 10:25 AM
I resent the fact the media are trying to turn this into Celtic somehow are trying to drag Scottish Football down and its Celtic alone who want a review.

Why when Milne from Aberdeen says he wants no review did nobody in the media call him out on this and demand the game gets its house in order?

As soon as we say the opposite Celtic become the bad guys.
As long as Celtic take them on, I couldn't give a toss how the media portray it.

Eventually the truth will reveal itself.
The media over the weekend was quite clear divided into


a) there is no appetite from clubs for this - they've been contacted informally and none in premier league want it - celtic are on their own here - no mention of rest of leagues - and if there is any appetite from sevco it is conditional on rangers not being investigated/reviewed CMclaughlin

b) there is no money swilling around to do this so lets not do it - Chic Young - celtic supporters can fund actions themselves and the SFA will refuse to implement any sanctions so GIRUY celtic fans even if you are correct -

c) Clubs will come out in public once they feel they know there is not a groundswell for it from their supporters

d) it needs to be done Tom English Hugh Mcdonald Michael Stewart etc with the usual huns saying let's move on

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CHR15
10 Sep 2017, 11:31 PM
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10 Sep 2017, 11:16 PM
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10 Sep 2017, 11:13 PM

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They're 54 short of going for 55 :thumbsup:
Hoy don't come in here with your pedantry and facts :lol:
I am completely unsurprised that I'm about to out-pedant a lawyer, but the number that you're "short of" is the number you need to achieve to attain your goal. If their goal is 1 league title and they're currently on zero, then they're one short. If their target is two league titles and they're on zero, then they're two short of that.

They're 55 short of going for 55. I know that they're already going for 1 but until they achieve that one, they're still going for it and it doesn't count towards the overall total.

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11 Sep 2017, 09:44 AM
boozebhoy
11 Sep 2017, 07:53 AM
If the SFA continue with their refusal to cooperate could Celtic withhold their players turning out for the national team in important WC qualifying matches?
So our Scottish players could be deprived the chance to play in a World Cup because of cheating by another club in a different era?
dont think our scottish players need to worry about playing in a world cup anytime soon :lol:
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boozebhoy
11 Sep 2017, 07:53 AM
If the SFA continue with their refusal to cooperate could Celtic withhold their players turning out for the national team in important WC qualifying matches?
dont know what players can do but as fans we should be boycotting SFA competitions.
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jebus82
11 Sep 2017, 11:30 AM
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11 Sep 2017, 09:44 AM
boozebhoy
11 Sep 2017, 07:53 AM
If the SFA continue with their refusal to cooperate could Celtic withhold their players turning out for the national team in important WC qualifying matches?
So our Scottish players could be deprived the chance to play in a World Cup because of cheating by another club in a different era?
dont think our scottish players need to worry about playing in a world cup anytime soon :lol:
Maybe our seven Scottish players have more confidence in their ability than you do. Either way, it seems odd to punish our Scottish players because of cheating by another club. As someone else mentioned, Celtic fans boycotting SFA tournaments like the Scottish Cup would be far more appropriate.
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sevilliano
11 Sep 2017, 10:54 AM
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11 Sep 2017, 10:28 AM
puroresu_boy
11 Sep 2017, 10:25 AM
I resent the fact the media are trying to turn this into Celtic somehow are trying to drag Scottish Football down and its Celtic alone who want a review.

Why when Milne from Aberdeen says he wants no review did nobody in the media call him out on this and demand the game gets its house in order?

As soon as we say the opposite Celtic become the bad guys.
As long as Celtic take them on, I couldn't give a toss how the media portray it.

Eventually the truth will reveal itself.
The media over the weekend was quite clear divided into


a) there is no appetite from clubs for this - they've been contacted informally and none in premier league want it - celtic are on their own here - no mention of rest of leagues - and if there is any appetite from sevco it is conditional on rangers not being investigated/reviewed CMclaughlin

b) there is no money swilling around to do this so lets not do it - Chic Young - celtic supporters can fund actions themselves and the SFA will refuse to implement any sanctions so GIRUY celtic fans even if you are correct -

c) Clubs will come out in public once they feel they know there is not a groundswell for it from their supporters

d) it needs to be done Tom English Hugh Mcdonald Michael Stewart etc with the usual huns saying let's move on

The Clubs (i.e. the Boards of Clubs) don't want to pursue this. Think its inevitable that they will though, in the same fashion that they eventually had to support Sevco starting their life in Div 3. Had there been no groundswell of vocal opposition from supporters of other clubs, Sevco would have been allowed to start life in the 1st Div.

I'm convinced that Milne, Budge etc. are biding their time and gauging the temperature of their supports. That temperature is clearly rising and I think will reach the point where both Milne and Budge will need to back Celtic's stance, but for no other reason than avoiding the wrath of their own supports. Shower of spineless bassas - yes, but d'you know what - fu*k it!!....don't really care what forces their hand, as long as there emerges some consensus amongst enough SPFL clubs, that the SFA need to revisit this whole sorry mess. To be honest, if the key driving force behind that is essentially supporters calling this out and forcing a re-examination, then I'm quite pleased about that.
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Regan will be on SSB the night talking about our statement.
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